Talk of PGA takeover of LPGA heats up as women’s tour honors founders
This is the way it goes for women’s golf these days -- on Friday, the LPGA will finally kick off its first 2011 domestic event designed to honor its founders, just as speculation grows that the PGA Tour may take control of the struggling organization.
In a recent Golf Digest article, Ron Sirak cited "multiple sources" confirming that talks between the tours have moved beyond the long-time "whispered conversations" about the PGA absorbing the LPGA. He also said that some LPGA players who believe their tour to be in serious trouble would be more receptive to the concept than their predecessors.
Despite LPGA commissioner Mike Whan’s statement to Sirak that he would rule out no idea that could bolster women’s golf, an LPGA spokesperson denied that the tour has had any talks with executives from the men’s side.
"We are pleased with our on-going strong relationship with the PGA Tour," the spokesperson said in an e-mail Wednesday night. "Our Commissioners talk regularly, we serve on committees together, we’re in step with them on the introduction of golf to the Olympics in 2016, and we share the same interest in growing the game.
"We certainly have discussed ideas on even more collaborative efforts," the e-mail said, "but there have been absolutely no discussions with the PGA Tour about any sort of business agreement or ownership stake in the LPGA."
PGA officials have "not been in discussions with the LPGA regarding a possible merger, takeover or collaboration," according to a PGA spokesperson, who declined to say whether internal talks about the subject were occurring.
All this while Whan’s vision of celebrating the women who created the tour and supporting future golfers plays out in Phoenix at the inaugural Founders Cup. The tourney, in which players will forego paychecks and sponsor RR Donnelley will donate the $1 million purse to the LPGA-USGA Girls Golf program and other charities, is just one of 13 U.S. events on the 2011 calendar.
LPGA Tour star Cristie Kerr believes women golfers get more respect in Asia than they do at home (Photo: Hunter Martin, Getty Images)
Certainly, as Sirak wrote, the PGA could help the LPGA financially and perhaps ensure more live broadcasting of its events. It’s difficult to imagine, however, how the PGA consuming the tour would be more beneficial to women’s golf than the possibility of an Asian-based global tour. The money’s in Asia, where women’s golf is hugely popular, thanks to so many star players from that part of the world.
Even as passionate a flag-waver as Cristie Kerr noted in a recent Los Angeles Times interview that Asian audiences were far more receptive to women’s golf than those stateside.
"I think we are very well received...in Singapore, and in Asia, where I think right now, we are more stars over here than we are in the United States," she said last month. "People in Asia are crazy for golf. I think we definitely have a warm welcome here, and we feel I think a little bit more ‑‑ not appreciated is not the right word, but we feel maybe more special here.
"We are the best women golfers in the world," Kerr said. "We deserve and want to feel special."
How would Kerr and her colleagues achieve such status if the PGA gobbled them up?
As for the benefits the PGA would accrue from such a deal, surely the men’s tour has no worries about the nearly non-existent competition for viewership from women’s golf, which barely moves the needle now. Not sure, either, how the LPGA -- which lost a huge sponsor for 2012 when State Farm pulled out -- offers "enormous growth potential," as Sirak said, or why TV execs would be geared up to televise co-ed events. How’s the Wendy’s Three-Tour Challenge doing?
There’s no easy fix to the woes of the LPGA, which obviously needs an infusion of cash. A PGA takeover may well be the answer. Broadcasters may also yearn for imaginative ways to spice up their telecasts beyond the same old weekly stroke play, although Golf Channel’s ratings have soared early this season -- even when Tiger Woods was not in the mix.
Just have to wonder whether adding LPGA golfers "as novelty items" to PGA events, as a Women in Sport International post noted recently, is really the way to go.
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Tim Finchem is a shrewd attorney.
If he could pick up the LPGA at a fire sale price, it might be a good investment. It would have been unreasonable to believe Michael Whan could make a serious change in the shot time he’s been Commissioner.
Kerr's point about more respect abroad
might be down to the fact that a lot of viewers in America see the LPGA as a beauty contest ? With that in mind, it is not surprising ladies golf in the US is seen as a sideshow. Pity. Top players deserve better.
In Asia, there are more successful women tour players than men. They are the “world beaters”, so to speak. The men are mostly also-rans except for YE Yang and KJ Choi for now. The LET is a “sideshow” over there. (and they have a ton of seriously gorgeous women, too)
Ping – I agree with you. The PGA Tour has a lot of connections and a lot more managerial success than the LPGA. They could do a lot business-wise to help them get sponsors going. Guys like Sirak keep thowing out ideas like tournaments with the men and the women on the same course at the same time like they have been seriously discussed and not just bizarre random thoughts rattling around in his head – but the PGA Tour guys are going to have a lot to say about it if that ever gets mentioned by someone who counts for anything. Too many variables. (green speed, firmness, rough, etc)
In a word, before the PGA signs anything – PRENUP ! Protect your ass-ets. The WNBA is a welfare anchor around the necks of the NBA. Women’s tennis threatened law suits to get equal pay for unequal work (3 sets vs 5 sets) in majors. (it’s easier to win a women’s major than it is to win back to back regular tournaments)
There are 3 types of people in this world - people who can count, and people who can't -- Lord Stewie
Or it could be becasue very few female sports leagues succeed in America
The LPGA is arguably the second most successful female sports league in America, after the WTA.
We just don’t care about women’s sports in America. Sure, every four years we root on gymnasts and track stars, but we are not particularly interested in seeing women’s athletics regularly, especially if there are some men playing the same sport down the street.
As for deserve better (and this isn’t a slap at female professionals), why? America has voted with their wallets. As has the Pacific Rim. If baseball players have to play in America to play at the highest level and footballers have to play in Europe to play on the highest level, why is it a shame for golfers to play in Asia to play at the highest level?
One more thing. The best thing for the LPGA isn’t a takeover by the US PGA; it is a merger with the LPGA of Korea. Go where the money is.
LPGA is ahead of the Welfare….errr…..Women’s National Basketball Association ?:-)
TN – interesting idea about American golfers going to Korea. Problem with that is the best Korean golfers moved to the US to go where the money and the organization are. The big money tournaments in Korea would make for a season about 3 weeks long like it does for the men in Australia and South Africa.
There are 3 types of people in this world - people who can count, and people who can't -- Lord Stewie
I'm not saying American tourneys should be shuttered
I don’t think there are enough dollars (or in this case, won) dedicated to international women’s golf for the two countries that follow the sport the most to have separate tours.
And now, for something completely different. Why the shots at the WNBA? If the NBA wants to back a glorified women’s summer league (most players make much more in leagues in Europe and Asia), why does it offend you so?
What offends me about the WNBA is that when they started, they swore up and down that they were going to have relatively small salaries, understanding that they were spending money granted by the NBA. Less than 5 years in, players started demanding10 times what they were budgeted even though they were pretty much playing to audiences that would make a high school gym look empty. There were threats of law suits demanding more money from the NBA because it wasn’t “fair” what they were being paid, even though they wren’t earning it. They are still a welfare league, though thankfully they are getting a bigger fan base. Their TV contract was given to them by the NBA. Whenever that word “fairness” comes out – usually from women – the men can hang it up even when they are doing the heavy lifting.
There are 3 types of people in this world - people who can count, and people who can't -- Lord Stewie
A ladies world tour
where sponsorship is shared worldwide would be the logical answer then. The “deserve more” tag I wrote was in refernce that ladies golf shouldn’t be a beauty contest, but that they deserve credit as sports women.
All golf will go this way eventually Chip
The sport is too big, worldwide, but if interest isn’t in America with the ladies wanes a little more, a world tour will happen even faster. Once they do it, it’ll just be a matter of time before the men follow suit.
I knew this was coming
The difference is there is enough interest in men’s progessional golf around the world to support separate tours. This may not be the case for the women.
The LPGA needs to accept where it is — below the Nationwide Tour, in terms of relative interest — and from there start to grow its audience organically.
Truth is, it rose from near obscurity thanks to Soremstam and the hype of Michelle Wie being “the next Tiger” and now that’s Soremstam is retired and Wi’s clearly not the next Tiger, it’s simply returning down to its level.
One of the best observations was made by TwoNuse.
I can’t remember seeing it said before. Women’s leagues in any sport have never been popular with the public, and golf is no different. Women athletes can be a tough sell. I know it’s not very PC to bring up the issue of sexuality, but it’s the 900 lbs. gorilla in the room. If you’ve never been to an LPGA event, it’s a real eye opener to see the gallery. I lived and worked in Palm Springs for almost two years. The Nabisco tournament that used to be the Dinah Shore isn’t called “dykes and spikes” for nothing. I went to another LPGA event in Portland, Ore., same thing.
Dikes on spikes?
Tacky and old. If that’s how you perceive the women’s game, then that’s your call. Fortunately, most don’t see it that way.
by chip n'putt on Mar 18, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Chip, how do you see the growth of the women's game in your area ?
It seems to me it is getting big enough to be part of a bigger ladies tour one day.
Chip: No, I don't see women's golf that way at all.
I have nothing but repect and admiration for a woman’s golf ability regardless of her sexual orientation. But I believe the issue is a stumbling block for the marketability of the LPGA.
Frankly, I'm totally bewildered
by your comment. It’s never occured to me to even wonder about any golf player’s sexuality, whichever tour they’re on or whichever sport they’re playing. I can’t believe I’m alone in finding this a non-issue as far as marketing a sport is concerned.
I’m not being PC – I just don’t care about it. Mind you – if Robert turned out to prefer men, I would take that rather personally – but that’s a different isssue ;o
why would you be bewildered ? I know your head isn’t buried in the sand. Just because it has never occurred to you to wonder how homosexuality affects how a sport is viewed means that it hasn’t occurred to other people. The Dinah Shore, in it’s last several years, had become a target for lesbian jokes because so many of the fans had turned it into a an openly lesbian love in. (not on camera, of course, but it had become a big lesbian gathering)
facts is facts – homosexuality is still seen as a taboo by a bigger majority than you might think, and sponsors don’t want to take a chance on offending their customer base.
There are 3 types of people in this world - people who can count, and people who can't -- Lord Stewie
The taboo as you call it might apply to the States
in Europe it is no big deal, each to their own so to speak. Rumours in ladies tennis and golf about the odd lesbian doesn’t harm the sport at all…it exists in all walks of life.
I'm bewildered because I had no idea
that this was the case regarding The Dinah Shore/Nabisco. To me that’s a bit like saying certain gay icons (Cher, Dusty Springfield, Shirley Bassey – sorry I’m not up on more recent ones – I’m sure there are some) weren’t marketable because of their fanbase? USA is certainly a conundrum to me with the most open & closed minds ( need to find a better phrase) in the world.
Apart from religion in various parts of the world
America do seem to be more intolerant of gays. It’s no big deal really.
Oh no,not Dusty Springfield!
You see Wendy, Cher isn’t gay…. She just appeals to a gay sensibility. The entertainment industry is much more tolerant of homosexuality than the sports world. It hasn’t hurt Sir Elton John. C’mon EZ, you know California, how can you say we’re intolerant? Anybody watching or thinking about golf…. Sergio had a great round today…..Hmmmmm. I wonder why Morgan Norman dropped him? Couldn’t be he was spending too much time with Adam Scott? LOL Really, I’m joking…. It must be wonderful to live in such a harmonious country… No predjudice or intolerance….a virtual Eutopia!
Who said there wasn't any hate here ?
There is. But generally, homosexuality isn’t frowned upon here as it seems to be in the US. As for California, the most populated State in the US, most of you in the east seem to joke about them as aliens :)
I didn't say any of them were gay, Ping
I said they were/are gay icons, but absolutely the entertainment industry is much more tolerant about sexuality. Morgan posssibly dropped him because he loved himself more than her? I don’t speak for Easing, but I do find USA a country of extremes in attitudes & beliefs – not a criticism – a vast country -& confusing in the messages it sends out.
Whats more important?
Whether someone is gay or not or whether someone is a just a kind,decent person.?,The latter everything else is just ‘pants’.Wendy ane Eas all the best tomorrow against the Irish…………………………..:0)
A corker I would think!!!
Dont fancy our chances though.The French have taken a hammering in the press and they have something to prove……‘Hell hath no fury like a Frenchman scorned’……Shame about Shane though,no more 6 Nations so he says.Will miss old twinkletoes…..As for Dublin………‘Carpe Diem’………………..both teams will be well up for it.:0)
Watched the golf in Sicily?Time for Chris Wood to bag one?
by scrumsndswings on Mar 19, 2011 5:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Heard Brian O'Driscoll
on the news this morning – sounds v. confident. Hope it’s a cracking good match. If England lose, will be enormous motivation for Wales to snatch the crown.
Chris Wood not making any big moves today.
You are right there Wendy
but even if England lose we would have to beat Les Bleus by a shedful and I can’t see that………………I think they will be desperate to win and win well.Yep I thought Chris Wood could have made a run at it today but not to be……………one for the future could be Victor Dubuissson??? Azzurri playing well again.
by scrumsndswings on Mar 19, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Up to T5 for Chris Wood today
so still in with a good chance. Never heard of Victor Dubuisson before but now understand he is a “rising young French star”. They need one. Was sorry for Azzurri – I was supporting them against Scotland.
Hey – just seeing Rory McIlroy being interviewed on the pitch prior to the England/Ireland match. Thanks Rory, for letting me connect this post to golf!!
Great to see Rory there
Hes a big Ulster supporter who play in the Celtic/Magners league with all the other Celts and from this season……2 Italiian teams.
Victor Dubuisson was one of the best amateurs in the world in 2009 and finished 9th in the Qatar Masters this year,,(my wife thinks hes lovely!!)
Let the game begin!!
by scrumsndswings on Mar 19, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions

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