Gandhi...MLK...Chubby Chandler
Chubby Chandler annoys me.
Chandler, the agent for Ernie Els, Lee Westwood and Rory McIlroy (among others), was the topic of an interview* where he continued his tireless defense for the ability for European golfers ranked in the top ten to play whenever and wherever they want. Chandler is doing his job as agent, using any pull or publicity he can to better the work conditions of his clients, I just wish he wouldn’t shroud his goals as Gandhi-like struggles against an oppressive regime.
*It was less an interview and more John Huggan opening up his recorded, asking Chandler if there was anything on his mind, and every once in a while acting as a literary Flavor Flav, hyping Chandler’s comments. Of course, now I want to see Huggan with a baseball cap turned to the side, over sized Batman sunglasses, wearing a clock around his neck. Damn, I wish I knew how to use Photoshop.
As ever in professional golf, the root of all problems is self-interest. By way of example, rather than work together for the common good, the PGA Tour and the European Tour spend way too much time trying to score petty points off each other.
"I don't know what sort of relationship exists between the PGA Tour and European Tour," acknowledges Chandler. "I don't attend their meetings. I suspect they talk more than we think. And I can't imagine they are blind to the fact that they have to get together for some things. But it isn't happening enough.
If every time a golf flack (media, agent, or tour rep) said something about the good of the game when he or she meant good for whomever I am championing at that moment you had to take a drink, you’d be dead of alcohol poisoning before the last twosome hit the 15 tee Sunday on what ever tour is your home tour.
I also question why self-interest is bad for tours but good for players. Especially considering in the paragraphs before, Chandler said:
I just happen to be looking after two lads at times in their careers when they don't need to do what everyone else wants them to do.
"One of them is 37. He's at a stage in his life - he has two growing kids at home - where he does what he wants to do. It's that simple. Then we have a 21-year-old who told me at the end of last year that he will never again play in places he doesn't like. And he's sticking to that. He doesn't particularly like Sawgrass and right now it isn't on his list."
Westwood and McIlroy doing what they want to do is good and should be lauded and defended. The PGA Tour and European Tour doing what they want to do will lead to the destruction of all we hold dear in golf.
There is too much protectionism going on. The end result is that the PGA Tour and European Tour are hindering the game.
How? I can’t speak for the European side, but television ratings are up in 2011. With the improvement of the global economy, sponsors are coming back, particularly automobile companies. Lee Westwood’s inability to play Quail Hollow isn’t hindering the game. It may hinder Lee Westwood, but that is his (and Chandler’s) problem, not the game of golf.
Don't get me wrong, we don't need a world tour.
Sorry Eas :-)
All we need is nine or ten annual events where everyone plays. Take the BMW PGA Championship at Wentworth. It's the right time of the year. It's a good course and the event already has a good standing. They have a great sponsor in place. It would be a perfect place for the very best to get together and compete in a World Golf Championship.
"The other option in Europe would be the Barclays Scottish Open. Again, they have all the ingredients in place. The only question would be the date, right before the Open. But that could work because everyone would just come over for two weeks. Another WGC should move around, to places like South Africa and Australia. There have to be global sponsors out there for events like that."
I must agree with Chandler here; there should be a WGC in Europe. And when the current WGC contract is up, the European Tour should say we get a tourney or we are out. Which is what they should have done in the beginning, but allowed Finchem to hypnotize them with his ‘we can make the most money here in the US’ argument.
"The easy accusation when anyone plays in Europe rather than America is that they do so because of appearance money," says Chandler, shaking his head. "But there is appearance money all over America. All the promoters ring up with all kinds of offers. So anyone who thinks that a golf day, or a dinner, or a hospitality visit is somehow different to what goes in Europe is wrong. It's exactly the same. There is no difference.
And the agreement time is over. I’m not against appearance fees per se, but in Chandler thinks the John Deere Classic offering to fly all players eligible for the British Open to Europe in a chartered flight is different than cold hard cash, I’d like to see his W-2 forms (or the European equivalent).
Plus, this is nothing new. It's been happening forever. Did Tiger play in Buick events because he had a deal to do so? Of course.
Yes and no. It would be short sided for Tiger, when he was an endorser for Buick, to skip events sponsored by the automobile company. The term is professional courtesy. But there wasn’t a contractual agreement that Tiger had to play like he had (and may be negotiating to do so in the future) with the Omega Dubai Desert Classic. If Tiger doesn’t play in UAE, he doesn’t get the $ (or € in this case).
As you'd expect, Chandler has spent more than a little time considering all of the above infighting and his solution is simple: "I'd like to see the top 20 players at the end of each calendar year free to play wherever they want for the following 12 months. Maybe even the top 50. The plusses are obvious.
"Take later this year. The European Tour has been handed three of the best seven players in the world - Westwood, McIlroy and Martin Kaymer, who isn't a PGA Tour member either. They will all play in Switzerland and Holland in September. They each have a gap in their schedules when the Fed-Ex Cup is played. So two of Europe's oldest events will benefit. Brilliant. If you let people move around it isn't going to be to the detriment of anybody.”
I can think of a detriment. If you allow players to be free of all tour restrictions for a calendar year, you also allow them to be free of all tour minimums for the calendar year. I can easily see Phil Mickelson deciding to only play ten tournaments in 2012 (assuming he is in the top 20 at the end of 2011, which for this exercise, he will). And by the way, it doesn’t get McIlroy to Sawgrass; he doesn’t like the course and doesn’t want to go.
Once again, I respect that Chandler is doing his job. But please remember, Chander’s job isn’t the betterment of golf as a whole or as an advocate of golf fans everywhere. And I wish he would stop pretending it was.
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Twonuse
“Yes and no. It would be short sided for Tiger, when he was an endorser for Buick, to skip events sponsored by the automobile company. The term is professional courtesy. But there wasn’t a contractual agreement that Tiger had to play…”
And you know this for a certainty? I seriously doubt that. I also believe that what Chandler says is right. Appearance money is not paid on the US Tour – perhaps not officially, but it’s paid in many ways and in many instances and it always has been.
I dont' know this for sure
But I assume playing in their tournaments was a part of Tiger’s endorsement contract with Buick, it would have been reported on by now.
I still believe there is a difference between what would be called considerations and appearance money.
Actually, Tiger did skip some of the Buick events – most notably the one here in Georgia. He did his best to work them into his schedule and he usually made 2 of the 3.
Where Chandler gets off line is that even if you consider Woods contract as “appearance” money, it didn’t affect the size of the purse for the rest of the tournament, unlike appearance fees on the European Tour that end up taking money out of the pockets of he rest of the field.
Chubby’s just doing his job – no sense getting upset with him. At least he’s not Scott Boros. Chandler is a beloved character on both tours outside of his job
Fathom the odd hypocrisy that the government wants every citizen to prove that they have health insurance, but people don't have to prove they are citizens.
Boras doesn't pretend he is doing anything for the good of baseball
When he is doing something for the good of Barry Zito.
If appearence money is seen as a bribe to play
Buick money can be seen as the same, it’s still an agreement between the player and a sponsor, is it not ?
Sure – as long as you ignore the fact that you’re not taking money out of the purse to pay the appearance fees. I know Tiger is the easy target – but Phil is in the same boat…as well as Lee Westwood with his UPS contract.
Fathom the odd hypocrisy that the government wants every citizen to prove that they have health insurance, but people don't have to prove they are citizens.
The thing is about appearance money in Europe
Yes, it comes out of the purse. But that purse is much bigger than it would have been without these top stars they pay the appearance fee to. What you have to realise is when all this appearance fees started 30 odd years ago, sponsors would only pay up if Seve, Langer, Faldo, Norman,Lyle and the Woosnams would play . Hence the appearance fee was born. Players like Mark James and Sam Torrance would complain about this, yet it meant the European tour could attract the sponsors and James and Torrance got rich because of it. Today the same happens because, as we all know, the PGA tour pays the most. It’s just good business sense on the part of the European tour..
So you’re saying that without taking money out of the purse to artificially boost the field strength, the European Tour would have no chance of having the depth they have right now ? (ducking) :-D
You are right, though. It’s business that works for the European Tour. WIthout it, the ET would be pretty mediocre and all the best players would run to the PGA Tour as fast as they could – and there are only so many spaces on either Tour, so a balance does well for both tours – we just don’t have to pay players here with perks like easier travel.
Fathom the odd hypocrisy that the government wants every citizen to prove that they have health insurance, but people don't have to prove they are citizens.
Appearance fees aren't wrong
but for Chandler to say appearance fees for Euro tournaments are the same as endorsement deals is wrong.
If that is what Chubby meant, he is still wrong
Once the tournament that is paying the appearance fee is over, the obligation to that tour is over. For the endorsement contract, there are amount of days the golfer is obligated to spend on company related events (corporate outings, commercials, etc.) as well as rights to his or her likeness. They are two different animals, especially considering the number of companies who have endorsement deals with golfers that aren’t name sponsors for events.
Ok, they are a bit different in their approach
but the goal is the same. To secure that player at that event.
I must disagree with you on this. The goal of an endorsement contract is not to get the golfer to play a specific event. It is to get eyeballs on their company by attaching their name to a player the company assumes will garner publicity through his or her play.
Buick didn’t give Tiger Woods oodles of money to play in three tournaments. They gave Tiger oodles of money so he would appear in their commercials, put their name and logo on his golf bag and be able to use Tiger’s image to sell their cars. The fact that Buick also was a sponsor of three PGA events and Tiger would have the professional courtesy to play in said events was at best secondary and at worst a happy coincidence. AT&T couldn’t get Tiger to play Pebble when Tiger was an AT&T endorser.
Chandler is wrong; he is badly trying to defend appearance fees and the European Tour business model. A business model that doesn’t need defending.
I don't think it needs defending either.
But the fact is Woods wouldn’t play those events if Buick didn’t pay him the cash.
How do we know this?
Tiger has to play 15 tournaments to fulfill his tour obligation. What tourneys would he have played instead?
Besides (and I apologize if I have the dates wrong) Tiger played in the Michigan event in 2009, after his endorsement relationship with Buick was severed.
He sure did, Eas. They fit very well in his schedule. He skipped the one in Georgia after his first couple of years on tour when he played a big schedule – but the others had great weeks for his schedule.
Fathom the odd hypocrisy that the government wants every citizen to prove that they have health insurance, but people don't have to prove they are citizens.
Els and Mickelson
both have Barclays as major sponsors. Both were contractually obliged to play in the Singapore Open for three years as part of their sponsorship. A rose by any other name – is still appearance money.
I will acknowlege there are endorsement contracts that dictate a player’s entry into a tournament.
I still believe Chandler’s point equating apperance fees and endorsement deals is wrong.
by TwoNuse on Feb 20, 2011 7:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
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How much do you think these guys get paid to do a clinic or the like when they were in town for The Northern Trust?
I don’t know. I do know a golf clinic isn’t the sane thing as an endorsement contract.
If you want to tell me US events have de facto appearance fees through clinics, I would reply there is a billable event outside the tournament, while in the case of the appearance fee the tournament is the billable event. But I wouldn’t fight that point to the death.
by TwoNuse on Feb 20, 2011 8:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
And that’s how they get away with paying appearance money in US Tour events. They hide it under the guise of clinics, dinners and pro ams etc. Whom ever pays the bills doesn’t change what it is. A good example was Woods playing in the Aussie Masters. The Aussie PGA, nor the AGU put the money up and the prize money would have remained the same with or without Woods. To be honest, I can’t see what the fuss is about re appearance fees. It has been going on for ever on all the Tours and always will.
The issue (at least for me) isn't appearance fees
The issue (at least for me) is Chandler making an incorrect comparison to defend appearance fees, equating them to endorsement contracts.

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