Peter Oosterhuis: Tiger Will Not Fit In With Ryder Cup Teammates
by Ryan Ballengee on Sep 7, 2010 2:00 PM EDT
in Pro Golf
Email
PrintDespite protestations to the contrary this morning, the long held view of Tiger Woods & the Ryder Cup is they don't quite see eye-to-eye with each other. Woods has been criticized for not much caring about the team competition, the Euro road games, and pretty much any other aspect - social or professional - about it.
This morning, Woods tried to again dissuade anyone from that speculation.
"I've always loved playing The Ryder Cup. I've always enjoyed being a part of the team. I don't know where the perception of indifference is, because I've always loved it," Woods said.
The team bonding that occurs, getting to know the guys and everyone there that's associated with our team are experiences that you'll never forget and I've created some great friendships because of it."
Well, Peter Oosterhuis isn't so sure Woods will be much help to the team. Speaking with Sky Sports, the analyst seemed skeptical of Woods' team room presence.
"You start reading about some of things that have happened with Tiger playing in the Ryder Cup before and he hasn't fitted in with the team very well at all," Oosterhuis said.
"I have my doubts about how he will fit in on the team this year.
"He should be leading the team and inspiring the team. They should be saying 'I've got Tiger on my Ryder Cup team, we're going to demolish the opposition,' and that hasn't happened."
I have my doubts about Woods in this format, so I tend to back up Oosterhuis. It has been proven time and again that talent is not the determining factor in winning the Ryder Cup. It is proper chemistry. Woods, though, may have found the one person (and he only needs one) to bond with in the team format. Steve Stricker and he were a resounding American force last fall. Could that be enough to help Woods?
96 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
I think he'll play his heart out this time
No solid logic to support this. I think the team will also be v. supportive of him – they probably think he has suffered enough. Having seen Darren Clarke Ernie Els, for example, go out of their way to make jokes with him, put him at ease, etc, his team-mates will do no less?
Oosterhuis is English, not Australian, I think
He played Ryder Cup for GB&I before Europeans joined in
Yeah, I had a brain fart there. Sorry bout that one.
Find me! Email: ryan@thegolfnewsnet.com, Twitter: http://twitter.com/waggleroom, or Facebook: http://facebook.com/waggleroom.
by Ryan Ballengee on Sep 7, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Stubbo would fit in wearing these..
http://www.sazzvintage.com/product/6413a.html
"pain is only weakness leaving the body"
Well, I'll be dammed....The guys down there
at Saw Grass been wonderin where ya been getin yur clothes from….I’ll pass that information along to them……HARDY, HAR, HAR, HAR…..STUB
I'm trying to remember
Has any Ryder Cup team with Woods as a member ever won anything? Maybe the “New Tiger” will be more cooperative this time around, but if I were Pavin I don’t think I’d chance it.
"(I)f you think you've got an inside track to absolute truth, you become doctrinaire, humorless and intellectually constipated." Saul Alinsky
TWO...If I remember correctly,
wasn’t there an article on that cup, that said Tiger was a bit “standoffish” ? If that really was the case, than Ryan is wrong…..he said that he has Stricker, and only needs one person to bond with…..if that guy gets hurt, or can’t play for whatever reason….than what ?…I don’t know who the picks should be, but it seems to me there is better chemistry out there…..Who knows….the young guns may well be able to get the job done….I don’t necessarly subscribe to young and old for balance…Maybe it’s time to re-evaluate the way players are selected…..jist sayin…..STUB
If I recall correctly,,,
Tiger and Furyk were a strong team during the President’s Cup in 2007. So that is two.
I don’t doubt Tiger was standoffish in 1999. Of course that was 11 years ago. Tiger had barely started his cocktail waitress regiment.
All this talk about chemistry is overblown in my opinion. Nick Faldo and Colin Montgomerien have been described as prickly at best and their RC records are fine.
In my view
this has been more about finding a partner that is comfortable playing with him. Let’s be honest, there just haven’t been many guys that didn’t feel intimidated by him (in the past). In my estimation Tiger has played pretty well for the most part, and you can only give him 50% of the responsibility for his team loses. I do agree that Tiger is certainly much better as an individual, but I would say, that’s true for most of the American’s and probably why they’ve not done so great. Most of the veteran American players have less than stellar RC records. But either way, I love the RC and will be watching every second of it, pulling hard for our team. Win or loose it’s always great fun to watch.
Fight for your opinions, but do not believe that they contain the whole truth, or the only truth.
Charles A. Dana
let me get this straight, tigerhead
You’re saying Woods intimidated his teammate, not the opposition?
"(I)f you think you've got an inside track to absolute truth, you become doctrinaire, humorless and intellectually constipated." Saul Alinsky
No exactly
I’m saying some of them felt intimidated playing with a legendary player like that. Perhaps intimidated isn’t the best word, maybe uncomfortable would be a better way to describe it.
Fight for your opinions, but do not believe that they contain the whole truth, or the only truth.
Charles A. Dana
but that's what you said
this has been more about finding a partner that is comfortable playing with him. Let’s be honest, there just haven’t been many guys that didn’t feel intimidated by him (in the past).
Even if you change “intimidated” to uncomfortable, it’s still a problem that he has a negative effect on his teammates. Ryder Cup is a TEAM sport.
Terrell Owens has as much talent as any wide receiver in football, but every team he plays for gets worse while he’s there. I think Tiger Woods is the Ryder Cup’s version of TO.
"(I)f you think you've got an inside track to absolute truth, you become doctrinaire, humorless and intellectually constipated." Saul Alinsky
D......great points.
The media circus that always follows TW will be 10 fold this year because of the episode with the blond fire hydrant. While I will be cheering for USA, I don’t believe they will be able to overcome the distractions that TW brings and will go down in flames. The European fans have seen, as have we, how bad TW plays when not focused, and I believe that they will attempt to affect his focus. No matter how good he is, his presence is a negative on the team.
The Saints ARE the SUPER BOWL CHAMPS....WHO DAT!
Diane
then you agree he has a negative effect on his partner? We just disagree on the reason why he has this “effect”. All I know is his record has been much better when partnered with players like Furyk and Stricker who for whatever reason are comfortable playing with him. And it probably works both ways, Tiger probably feeds of the positive chemistry as well. Just my opinion.
Fight for your opinions, but do not believe that they contain the whole truth, or the only truth.
Charles A. Dana
coincidence?
This is a fun thread, but it’s nothing more than speculation on all our parts. The only fact is that the US Ryder Cup team has, with one exception eleven years ago, lost when Tiger has been on the team and it won convincingly when he wasn’t. Was Woods team status a coincidence or the cause? I don’t know and I don’t think anyone else does either. What I do find interesting is that when the absolute best player on the planet participates, his team loses.
"(I)f you think you've got an inside track to absolute truth, you become doctrinaire, humorless and intellectually constipated." Saul Alinsky
Not a coincidence
but you are looking at the wrong place.
Europeans have won 4 of the last 6 Ryder Cups. Since 1979 (when the remainder of European golfers became eligible), the score is 7.5 to 7.5 (a tie in 1989 allowed Eurpoe to keep the cup). The US isn’t and should never be a prohibitive favorite.
IMHO, The Ryder Cup is more important to them than it is to Americans. Hal Sutton, once again IMHO, was a lousy captain from a tactical standpoint but his loss won’t be on the top five things mentioned on his golf obituary. Nick Faldo has won more professional majors than all but 11 golfers in history, but the Euro press will not forget Valhalla.
Some captains like Sutton
are just dumb ( Tiger and Phil pairing ) Jacklin and Azinger showed some brains .Most of the time, however, the best team wins that week. Matchplay can turn in an instant. ‘83,’95 and ’99 are good examples.Faldo, shows how a captain gets the blame for the loss mainly because he is an easy target for the press. The truth is, the Americans simply outplayed Europe that week. Faldo did little wrong that week, but Harrington, Garcia and Westwood were poor that week and the Americans were superb. Woods is just unfortunate to play at a time when the Europeans have had the upper hand.
Easy......Sutton never claimed that
pairing Tiger and Phil was smart……what he did say from the moment he was announced as captain was that he would pair the two because it was the pairing everyone wanted to see. Had nothing to do with smart or not smart.
The Saints ARE the SUPER BOWL CHAMPS....WHO DAT!
That in itself was dumb
to pair them because everyone wanted to see it. He should have done what he thought was best, otherwise, what was the point of him being captain ? We over here couldn’t have cared less who Tiger was paired with…that’s probably something Americans wanted for TV reasons.
I'd pair Tiger with Furyk again. They really get along really well,
an especially important factor for Tiger this year.
Ahh, you're right, Eas. And Stricker's been playing better
of late.
I’m an excitement fan. Would love to see it come down to the very last match.
Dunno if that ever happened.
Make that the very last match, very last hole, just minutes
before a meteor destroys the planet. That would be uber-exciting. Everyone would be on pins and needles.
If you didn't google that and did it all from memory,
Eas, and you’re correct, well done!
Was Jack playing a Titleist 2 or 3? Just curious.
Most likely, Eas.
Those Titlelist Trapezoids never really caught on.
Tigerhead brother
The intimidation factor was all a Made-For-TV drama set up by the media. In all my years in the golf industry and with all the tournaments, charity events, dinners and other venues I have attended, I have never and I mean never once heard a tour player say that they were intimidated by tiger. The media, reporters, writers, teleprompters readers and promoters all new mentioning the intimidation factor would make for good stories and theatre and like you, most of the hanger-ons TW fans believed every word of it and helped spread the message. Tiger WAS a good golfer and WAS good for the game and had the talent to beat most on tour on any given day, but the idea that his intimidation is what beat the other players is unfounded. I used to get a kick out of the announcers on TGC saying, “Tiger Can Will The Ball In The Hole With His Mental Toughness” Yeah and Harry Houdini really did have magical powers as well as Dorothy had magic slippers.
"pain is only weakness leaving the body"
Jumpn....sorry to correct you, but
Dorothy did have magic slippers……I saw it with my own eyes…….“there’s no place like home”….:)
The Saints ARE the SUPER BOWL CHAMPS....WHO DAT!
"WAS"?
R u saying that Tiger is not a good golfer anymore? And just judging by ratings, he is still good for the game from a financial standpoint, if nothing else.
Tiger’s affect on his playing partners is hugely debatable, but it’s hard to argue his presence doesn’t change the environment a player is used to. When Tiger’s playing partners shoot big scores in big situations, it is almost always attributed Tiger’s intimidation. But, there have been plenty of players who shoot big numbers in big situations when Tiger is nowhere near their group.
The galleries alone could certainly create a greater element of fear among the players he is paired with, and just because you personally have heard a player say they are intimidated, doesn’t mean it has never been said. I’m sure it’s been said and felt by many players many times.
We are all trying to will our body to roll the ball into the hole in some form or another. The difference is Tiger is just better at it when everything is on the line. There’s nothing magic about it.
http://thegreenblazer.blogspot.com
by TheGreenBlazer on Sep 8, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Still IS a good golfer
Just not dominating and I believe those days are in the past.
GreenBlazer, you said, “When Tiger’s playing partners shoot big scores in big situations, it is almost always attributed Tiger’s intimidation”. Attributed by the announcers on TV perhaps in their hype and drama world I suppose. I can only tell you what I see and hear out there and report on my findings and my findings have already been stated above.
Correct at “No Magic”,, you aim , shoot, and putt. No willing comes into play at all. Perhaps , the magical David Blaine or Superman have a chance to use “Will Power” but tiger just has great putting skills. As I’ve said in the past, The media hype and over-sensationalism about everything these days is over the top.
"pain is only weakness leaving the body"
Was a good golfer?
It goes WAY beyond “good” jumpn, he was legendary. And you’re writing him off way to early my man.
Fight for your opinions, but do not believe that they contain the whole truth, or the only truth.
Charles A. Dana
even you're writing him off
he was legendary.
Woods is absolutely the best golfer of his generation. When he lost to Yang in ‘09 he was probably having personal issues that were detracting from his game. Now, whether he’s finished being the guy to beat, or not, is up to him.
"(I)f you think you've got an inside track to absolute truth, you become doctrinaire, humorless and intellectually constipated." Saul Alinsky
I'm not writing him off
and I doubt very much my view of Tiger needs further explanation…lol I know he’ll be back playing well and winning golf tournaments, I just don’t know when.
Fight for your opinions, but do not believe that they contain the whole truth, or the only truth.
Charles A. Dana
when he gets to the champions tour
"(I)f you think you've got an inside track to absolute truth, you become doctrinaire, humorless and intellectually constipated." Saul Alinsky
Hah! Very witty, Diane.
But I agree with TH. Though I no longer root for Tiger like i used to, I do think he’ll regain his top form sometime next year and i think he played pretty damn good this year, call things considered.
Jumpn
That’s not something anybody readily admits to, especially people trying to beat the guy. And he’s STILL a good golfer and is STILL good for the game.
Fight for your opinions, but do not believe that they contain the whole truth, or the only truth.
Charles A. Dana
gawd, some people dont read
TH,, look at my headline, still IS a good golfer, just not dominating.
"pain is only weakness leaving the body"
jumpn
I was responding to your post from 10:17 am where you said “Tiger WAS a good golfer and WAS good for the game”. That’s exactly what you said. I didn’t read the lower post until later, so I guess you changed your mind since then??
Fight for your opinions, but do not believe that they contain the whole truth, or the only truth.
Charles A. Dana
Lately he has become quite pedestrian
Not winning and certainly not dominating. Again, its the media, TGC and other media outlets hyped up his return with, "he will win at least one major this year and quail hollow is a lock. How did that work out ?
Currently he is NOT anywhere near as good as he was and I feel that his dominating days are over. JMHO
"pain is only weakness leaving the body"
Time will tell jumpn
But wouldn’t you agree that all players go though ups and downs? Look at Phil, misses the cut one week wins the next. Look at Stricker who fell to something like 300th in the world and is now one of the games best. All players struggle from time to time, we’re just not used to seeing it from TW. But he is human. Tiger has had other things do deal with this year; he’ll be back just a matter of time. I agree he will likely never be as good as he was in 2000 / 2001, but who will. He still has many good years left in him, I have no doubt. I’m just glad we’re finally talking about his golf again.
Fight for your opinions, but do not believe that they contain the whole truth, or the only truth.
Charles A. Dana
OK soooooooooooooooo
How can ANY journalist or broadcaster make a statement like the players are intimidated if they don’t know for sure.. hence my point.
"pain is only weakness leaving the body"
A quote from assistant captian DL3
"What nobody understands – it doesn’t matter if it’s you or my son or a fan on TV or Tiger’s mom – you don’t get it unless you’re in the team room," said Davis Love III, an assistant captain this year. "Tiger is great in the team room. He’s a smart guy. He’s a talented player. He wants to do everything he can to win. He’s learned how to be a quiet leader and a vocal leader. He’s learned to say the right things. It’s just hard to describe."
Fight for your opinions, but do not believe that they contain the whole truth, or the only truth.
Charles A. Dana
DLIII is a good guy.
Sounds like he is trying to put a happy face on a tough situation.
The Saints ARE the SUPER BOWL CHAMPS....WHO DAT!
I agree EM
I know Davis Love lll well and he is indeed one of the best guys on tour and I have never known him to be negative about anything, at least while the cameras are rolling. ;o)
"pain is only weakness leaving the body"
Or
maybe he’s telling the truth. I’ll take DL3’s word for it over yours, no offense. He was there, your were not. I’ve also head several other players make very positive comments about how good Tiger is in the team room. Are they all lying?
Fight for your opinions, but do not believe that they contain the whole truth, or the only truth.
Charles A. Dana
I doubt Oosti is playing homer games, but I can’t disagree more with his comments. Woods has always taken pride in his Ryder and President’s Cup team membership. The stories of good times in the team room can be found from every team. Ping pong games, card games, dinners, Tiger using his jet to ferry players from one continent to another.
Don’t be surprised to hear team stories along the lines of what came out around Michelle Wie. Count on Tiger putting in extra effort for this team – and count on them rallying around him after the things he has been through this year. There won’t be backs turned on him because of the mess he got himself into.
It’ll be fun to see how things go with Fowler, too. He’s one of the next generation of Ryder Cuppers who will be taking over for Phil and Tiger before too long.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
Court ????????????
" Tiger using his jet to ferry players from one continent to another." ? When ? Where is that verifiable information available for all to see ? Tigers sleeping with Michelle Wie ?? lol
"pain is only weakness leaving the body"
What about AK ?
I’ve been out all day – did Pavin offer Anthony Kim a spot similar to Sergio ? He’d be a good cheerleader to have with the team, and he would definitely have made the team if his wrist was healthy.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
Court, it's not AKs wrist....it's his THUMB
that was operated on…..Nextly, lets back up a bit….Jump asked when Tiger used his jet to ferry players to other continents….He wanted to know when, who and was the information verifiable….Please don’t tell us your just throwing crap against the wall again to see what will stick….Give us facts, or in Lu of….say it’s your opinion…..jist sayin mind ya…..STUB
oh – sorry – didn’t see the question – it was after The Bridgestone four years ago when he and Cink were going at it on Sunday. They flew over for the big “players only” round to see the course. Then several of them flew back to the states on the Woods Express.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
LMAO@ you didn't see the question. ????????????????????????????
Court you of all people never miss a thing in here, never mind the fact that I put , Court ???? in the title of the comment section.
Ok back on track here, you said," it was after The Bridgestone four years ago when he and Cink were going at it on Sunday. They flew over for the big "players only" round to see the course. Then several of them flew back to the states on the Woods Express."
Well that sounds a little more scaled down from the origional version you mentioned making it sound as if Tiger was offering private jet service to players on a regular basis for the purpose of casual intercontinental Jet Setting to do them a favor. “NOT” Nice try though. hehehe
I believe the Cink part though as it was probably pre-arranged for the purpose of a strategy session.
Which of the players and how many was it that just jumped on board for a One Way Trip and casual Jet cruise to the USA ? I find that hard to believe as most players want whatever down-time that they can get when not playing. Not trying to be a PIP here court, but it smells of embelishment. lolol
"pain is only weakness leaving the body"
We all remember the putt Tiger made in the Presidents Cup
He seemed to fit in pretty good in that moment.
I think if he’s gonna care about any Ryder Cup, this will be the one. Hopefully for golf, he has a Tiger moment that propels his game into 2011.
http://thegreenblazer.blogspot.com
We all remember....
Many great moments in tour history dating as far back as Bobby Jones et el
Hopefully for golf ? Golf has stood the test of time on the course and on TV. It has survived 2 depressions and several recessions. Tigers Era has been pretty darn good and some of it can be attributed to him. Remember, “if not for all the talented players on tour, we wouldn’t have a tour at all.”
BTW, Green Blazer, Though I don’t comment on your blog, I DO read it quite often and enjoy the read.
"pain is only weakness leaving the body"
If Tiger finished tomorrow
Golf would be fine. As I have said before, this is an American paranoia, for some, that golf will shrivel up if Tiger fails to get his game back. Comments that he saved golf are nieve, almost ignorant of the great game. He has been a fantastic player over the years and may continue to be. Some Americans look at him in the same way people did when Jordan ruled the NBA. Many think the NBA has gone downhill after Jordan and worry golf will do the same if Woods sinks into oblivion. I have watched the NBA for almost 45 years and I marvel at the skills, for me, many players have. Bryant and James stand out, much like Tiger and Phil do in golf, but golf has far more to offer, as the whole world plays it and this is important…all around the world. Court often says, we have all the worlds players on the PGA tour, why have a world tour ? That, to me is looking at it like the NBA, where players from around the world play.in the USA…golf is not like that. The fears some have about Tiger look at golf this way…an American sport, if you like. Over here in Europe, Tiger is admired, golf wise, of course, but not as a god like some do in the USA. He has less time left on the course than he has had and people have already moved on. As for the Ryder cup, USA has lost 4-1 with him playing and want a scapegoat…he is the obvious choice. The bottom line is the Europeans played better as a unit, just as the USA did last time. And in these close matches, the winning team usually has a bit of luck as well. Also, in a team format, players have the team to fall back on, so feel they have less to lose playing Tiger, and play the kind of golf they are capable of and often beat him. They are very motivated to do so. And win. If they could have felt that way paired with him in majors, he would have won less than 10, but as we all know they crumbled in front of him many times. Yang showed it can be done and I believe more players believe this than they used to. The younger breed that has emerged know it.
Oh Good Lord, Tiger Woods Is A Golfer, But He Is NOT Golf Itself
Progolf, you are wrong about one thing: golf has not only survived depressions, recessions and the like, but it has also consistently produced generational heroes. Old Tom Morris and his generation begat Young Tom and his, which begat the Great Triumvirate Era (Vardon, Taylor, Braid) which led to Ouimet, which led to Hagen and Jones, which led to Sarazen, then Nelson, Snead, Hogan, which led to Palmer and Nicklaus, who led to Watson, who led to Norman, who led to Tiger who leads to…McIlroy, Ishikawa, Fowler and other players to be named later.
Perhaps people should bother themselves to learn a little golf history, and learn that Young Tom Morris drew crowds that were Tiger-esque, that Jones had ticker tape parades with over 100,000 people in attendance, that Hagen was a womanizer who would pale Tiger’s antics, and so forth and so on.
Pro, not talking about you at all, for the record. I am talking about a lot of mouth breathing golf announcers like Rich Lerner and Kelly Tilghman, some golf writers and a number of bloggers who couldn’t tell the hole in their backside from the Postage Stamp if their lives depended on it.
(rant over) :)
LOLOL OMP ^ 5's to ya
I must be missing the part that I was wrong about ? BTW, Tiger is the one that followed Young Tom Morris so that would make it that Tiger was Morris-esque and not the other way around. Jes sayn
Also, I started my boxing career during the middle of the ALI era and I used to hear many people, (inside the ropes) talk about how Ali was talking retirement and that Boxing was gonna take a downward spiral and yada, yada, yada. Here it is 25 years later and boxing is doing quite well with many quality fighters in many weight catagories. People that are “Real Boxing Fans” that watch no matter who is fighting are the ones that support and keep the sport going and not the ones that only watch a PPV once a year, when a “Brand Name” is in the ring on a peticular night. I feel the same holds true with golf. I betcha if suddenly camp tiger got greedy and said you have to watch Tiger on PPV and can watch all the other players for free, we would see a mass exodus.
My very first post Golden Gloves fight was in Sacramento, Ca. and I was the 4th undercard to Roberto Duran. About half of the stadium was filled at that point, and that was my first clear understanding as to who the “REAL” fans of the fight game were. I did win by decision that evening, but I sure took a beating.
"pain is only weakness leaving the body"
nahh, you’re not wrong. I am just coffee addled and frazzled from the corporacracy today.
by Charles Boyer on Sep 9, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
lol no worries
I’m on my 5th cup since 6:00 am this morning. “Wake N Shake” I call it. The coffee here isn’t that good either. You would think with such a large corporate golf attendance it would be a lot better, but it sure tastes like el-cheapo Max-Swill House to me.
"pain is only weakness leaving the body"
Hah! Max Swill House. Never heard that one before, PG.
I think their old slogan was “Good to the last drop.”
Or was that your boxing career epitaph, so to speak? (J/K)
I’m guessing you won your last bout but got tired of the training.
Just what the heck is this???
You don’t take your own Coffee Pot and Designer brand coffee ? Good lordy, what will the world do next…..jist sayin……hahaha…..STUB
BTW I was never an ALI fan
I always felt that Larry Holmes was a much better fighter in that Era.
Ali’s daughter however Layla Ali, IS the greatest womans fighter of all times and remains undefeated and has run out of challengers to fight. That is the mark of a true champion.
"pain is only weakness leaving the body"
Holmes never did get the credit he deserved.
But I think Ali in his prime would have breezed past him in 6. Ali is probably the only Heavyweight that beat all styles of boxer in his career…and his exile robbed us of his best years…in my humble opinion.
LOLOLOL TXQ
Layla would drop Tyra Banks just looking at her. lol
"pain is only weakness leaving the body"
LOL
I actually attended Layla’s very first fight years ago up at Turning Stone Casino in NY. She was on the undercard for the headliner, Donovan Razor Ruddick. She and Donovan are on the fight poster from that night that still hangs in my office to this day.
"pain is only weakness leaving the body"
She’s something else.
I only wish I was old enough to have seen her dad fight in his Clay days. That man was ferocious even when he got older…he must have been a sight to behold in the mid-60’s.
by Charles Boyer on Sep 9, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
He was so fast.....just a blur......but
his mouth was even faster……he could talk the paint off the wall. I wasn’t a “true boxing fan” because I never boxed…..I followed all the sports that I played. I couldn’t box because I had a glass jaw……oh, wait, I had a glass everything…..:)
The Saints ARE the SUPER BOWL CHAMPS....WHO DAT!
Nope TXQ
I was never an Ali Fan because he spent more time running and dancing and rope-a-dope stuff. Just get in the damn ring and fight OLD SCHOOL, like Jack Johnson, Willy Pep, Joe Louis, John L Sullivan, Rocky Graziano, Rocky Marciano, George Foreman et al. Ali named HIMSELF, the Greatest fighter of all times and I and many others don’t agree. My vote goes to Joe Louis and Sugar Ray Robinson. Never liked Sugar Ray Leonard as a fighter because he was another ring runner. Outside of the ring a very nice guy who I had many a cocktail with. LOL
"pain is only weakness leaving the body"
Jumpn......
You left out Rocky Balboa……now there was puncher!!!!!
The Saints ARE the SUPER BOWL CHAMPS....WHO DAT!
Don't forget, Balboa had a great cut man, and his sound effects guy was incredible.
Even the whiffs became thuds.
Pretty........
It was beautiful! The Vikings came in WANTING that game, to prove last year was a fluke. The Saints defense was great and their offense played well in spurts…..remember the Vikings D is one of the best. All in all, a great start in defending their championship…..Who Dat—-Two Dat.
The Saints ARE the SUPER BOWL CHAMPS....WHO DAT!
Defense was great indeed, Em, for both teams. But even Brees said in his
on-field postgame interview, “It wasn’t a pretty win.”
I just prefer to see more offense, more points, more long pass attempts, more cheerleader shots.
Yeah, he also said that it was nice to win that "type" of game.
Now they know they don’t have to score 35 points to win.
The Saints ARE the SUPER BOWL CHAMPS....WHO DAT!
I heard a Nawlins reporter on the radio yesterday – he ended his interview with “Who Dat – Two Dat”. The ESPN guy said he needed to copywrite that phrase like “three-peat”.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
Court......I heard the Two Dat for the
first time last week. I thought it was pretty cool. I was VERY disappointed that TXQ didn’t think of it first……:)
The Saints ARE the SUPER BOWL CHAMPS....WHO DAT!
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
Have a golf story tip? Contact editor Charles Boyer and he will follow the story! Thanks!
Related FanPosts on Waggle Room
Related FanShots on Waggle Room
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Certain photos copyright © 2012 by Associated Press or Getty Images. Any commercial use or distribution without the express written consent of Associated Press and Getty Images is strictly prohibited.
