Shi Hyun Ahn's Caddie Speaks on Wrong Ball Controversy
Tim Hegna was Shi Hyun Ahn's caddie at last week's CN Canadian Women's Open. Not many people were aware of that, much less what really happened on the 18th hole with Ahn and playing partner Il Mi Chung. Waggle Room spoke with Hegna via telephone this morning to get his story concerning the ball mix-up and what led to the players' disqualification.
Hegna - a self-described "tour caddie" who has carried bags on many tours - says after the group hit their drives, he went toward a ball on the right center of the fairway and laid down his bag. He went to work on getting a yardage. Ahn hit her ball to the green, which should have been a Titleist 1, but neither looked to verify it. Ahn's approach landed on the right edge. The other girls hit up, then Ahn chipped her ball to a foot. Hegna handed the putter to Ahn to tap in her one footer for par. When Ahn hands back the putter and ball, Hegna says that was then he realized his player had not played the right ball for the last three shots.
"I saw the ball and told [Ahn], 'This is a Titleist 6. It's the wrong ball. You should tell Chung.'"
Hegna said Ahn didn't acknowledge what Hegna said, though he had the expectation that she would and act on it. In fact, she said nothing at all on the green. The players finish out and go to the scoring tent. All three sign their cards neither Ahn nor Chung taking the penalty.
As they were heading back toward the clubhouse, Hegna says Ahn told him, "Be here at 6:40 tomorrow and don't say anything to anyone."
Hegna went to the hotel and had his dinner, adding, "I didn't know how to handle [what just happened] at the time." When he got back to his room, his roommates told him that he and his player had been disqualified. Hegna said he was pleased to hear the news, but said he does not know who turned them into the LPGA scoring officials. After parting from his player, he does not know if Ahn told Chung.
On Friday, Hegna spoke with LPGA officials, including LPGA Board of Directors member Michelle Ellis. He spoke with Senior Vice President of Tournament Operations and Player Services Jane Geddes yesterday, and another LPGA official.
Hegna was displeased with the LPGA response to his efforts to come forward on this issue, saying, "I told the LPGA the same [account]. What they do about it is up to them. They're trying to sweep it under the rug."
Ultimately, the LPGA Tour says that the Rules of Golf were obeyed. This incensed Hegna, who later added, "When a caddie says something to you and you nothing, what's that called? A mistake? You can't call it a mistake."
"I know the truth," Hegna said. "I know the Rules of Golf. What [Ahn] did was not right.
"[Ahn and Chung] are trying to save their careers. They put a stain on themselves."
The last contact Hegna had with Ahn was the day after the DQ. Ahn went to the caddy shack and asked for his cell phone number, saying she wanted to get a hold of him to mail a check to him. After some phone tag that day, Hegna says he has not heard back from Ahn.
Hegna says he holds no grudge against Ahn or any Korean player - particularly important in light of accusations levied against caddie/blogger Larry Smich concerning his views on Korean players.
"I knew her for three days. I met her on Tuesday. It's nothing personal.
"If someone has a problem with Korean players, they're not very smart. Koreans are talented players and they give us jobs. I'm happy about that."
Hegna will be in Arkansas for next week's LPGA event - the only one in the month of September. He knows this whole thing could have been avoided in the first place.
"[Ahn] should've just called the penalty and played on Friday. We could've made the cut. We could've made the top ten."
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I’ve believed since this story broke, that, if the truth is as the caddy described above, then there is no penalty too harsh. For me, that means everything up to a lifetime ban from the LPGA.
I know there have been a lot of cases over the years where rule violations (or supposed violations) seemed shady, but this is one of the few cases (really the only one as I sit here thinking) I can remember, assuming Henga’s account is 100% true, where there was known malicious cheating at this high a level. I’m sure someone can point to other cases, but I can’t think of any at the moment.
And now, as OMP said, giving the appearance of sweeping it under the rug makes me very, very disappointed in the LPGA, if that’s the case.
Fantasic Article, Ryan
If what Hegna says is true, then both Ahn and the LPGA are to blame here. Sweeping something like this under the rug is not a smart move by the Tour.
Adam Fonseca
I’m confused – how is a DQ for both players followed by an investigation into the rest of the story “sweeping things under the rug” ?
He says he knows the rules, but he didn’t make his player go back and replay the hole with the two stroke penalty.
How is the LPGA “to blame” for anything ? Following the rules is the job of the players.
How did “you saw nothing”, as was reported part of the time, turn into “be here at 6:40 and don’t say anything to anyone” ? (which is pretty good English for a player who struggles with her English)
How is it that Hegma is automatically the voice to be believed ?
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
Let me take your questions in order, based on Tim’s answers to me.
1. I think he views the process to the DQ as what’s being “swept under the rug.”
2. He did know the rule, but it’s incumbent upon the player to call the penalty.
3. See #1 – I think he blames them for saying nothing of how they got to the DQ.
4. There have been variations, but this is him on the record.
5. I don’t think this is presented as “the voice to be believed” (though I do), but just his angle of it.
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by Ryan Ballengee on Sep 3, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
What is he expecting to happen on the spot ? Does he really think that the LPGA would, maybe, suspend the players without an investigation ? (this is why I’m having trouble with this guy)
He is making himself out as an authority, but he left the green without saying anything, too. He didn’t head back up the fairway, he didn’t put the bag down and walk off knowing that his player was intentionally disregarding the rule.
Since when does the LPGA have to say anything about how they got to the DQ ? DQ’s aren’t rare and they are almost never reported on. All you ever see is DQ in the box score.
OH well – I’m not convinced of his sweeping under the rug allegations – which isn’t going to make him any friends – we’ll see how it goes.
And thanks for getting his side, RB.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
That’s really the best I can do, right?
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by Ryan Ballengee on Sep 3, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Apparently, he feels that there’s rug sweeping going on because he used those exact words. Perhaps he doesn’t feel a DQ is enough punishment or maybe he feels like the LPGA is just quietly doing “something” without a harsh, public response.
And as to why he should be believed, I’m not saying his word should be the final say, but if you look at it, he’s the one in the situation who has everything to lose by making these allegations instead of just keeping quiet.
by Double Eagle on Sep 3, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
parse what I said closely, Court
Even a he-said she-said is not good for the LPGA, and if they give themselves the appearance of allowing willful cheating,
Perception is truth in politics and marketing. It is a law as sure as death and taxes. The LPGA must market itself, and one of its prime assets is its appearance of having a sanctity of competition. If they lose that, they are going to go down in a lot of eyes.
If the idea of perception being truth were not true, Obama would never have won the Democratic nomination and Microsoft Windows would never have succeeded in the marketplace.
by Charles Boyer on Sep 3, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I understand what you’re saying, OMP. However, I’m not in the camp that follows the “perception is reality” line. Reality is reality – nothing else. The LPGA officials on site upheld the rules – that is the extent of their authority. The LPGA heads (starting with Whan) have to make the final decision on the evidence. I don’t know the LPGA policy on publicly reporting fines and suspensions – probably the same as the PGA Tour – they won’t talk about it in the press. This is not sweeping something under the rug.
Are there any sports that don’t value a sanctitiy of the rules even though everybody knows that the rules get broken ? (ok – maybe the NBA and the five step travel)
lol – on Obama – proof of point – if so many people didn’t fall for the shiny exterior and had paid attention to the facts that were staring them in the face about this man, we might not be in the situation we’re in. Perception was clearly not reality, but all those Xerox signs and perky little chants got the dumb-masses on his side.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
Yeah, We'd Have a Lunatic One Heartbeat Away
Your girl Palin is bat-shiat insane and that alone turned a lot of people off to voting for her ticket. McCain and Romney may have won.
by Charles Boyer on Sep 3, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
lol – she’s not my girl. she may be nuts, but at least she’s fun to listen to in a speech.
Please don’t scare me with McCain and Romney. yeesh.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
why not ? it’s a chance to “make history” with the first woman president. (lol) The Dems had the first two black presidents….don’t forget that Slick Willie was declared “black” by several black groups. :-D
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
There are plenty of Republican women qualified to be president who aren’t named Sarah Palin. Or her “intellectual” Siamese twin, Michelle Bachman.
Those two love to claim the legacy of Ronald Reagan but really couldn’t be much more different than the Gipper. And that’s what we need: another Reagan, albeit one who had the brains and the couth that Reagan had.
by Charles Boyer on Sep 3, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Court...
I don’t think it is too outlandish to suggest that the LPGA would do everything in their power to eliminate any bad press, especially when things are looking up for the Tour.
Adam Fonseca
No doubt, CD. Though I don’t think this is bad press for the LPGA. They’re not the ones who broke the rule in a league where you are supposed to police yourself. The final verdict isn’t in, but I don’t see how the tour can get away from making an example of these two.
It’ll be interesting to see if anybody wants to trust Hegna with a bag anytime soon. Not so much for a rule like this, but because he doesn’t keep his mouth shut to the press.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
I don’t think the LPGA or Hegna necessarily get hurt by this. The LPGA’s job is to make sure fair competitions are held. As far as they’re concerned, justice was served. A lot of players were upset by this situation and wanted to see what led to the DQ come out from someone, on the record. So I think Hegna is ok too.
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by Ryan Ballengee on Sep 3, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I think it is. We want to know about dishonesty in other sports, why not golf?
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by Ryan Ballengee on Sep 3, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
You think what is ? You think fines and suspensions should be public ? (that’s ok – you think personal financial documents should be splashed, too) (ducking) :-)
It’s just one of those “gentleman’s agreement” things. You don’t talk about things like that. In this case, it does look like it’s going to be hard to not report on what they find.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
I think suspensions/fines as a result of competition should be made public. The drugs stuff, not so much, unless it’s a PED. Basically, if it impacts how the public would perceive a player’s honesty, then I think should be made public.
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by Ryan Ballengee on Sep 3, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
In this day and age
that’s a good thing…and golf being the most noble of sports should lead the way. Make it public.
Not Unreasonable
I don’t think it’s unreasonable for me to expect that sporting entities that live on my money give me some sense of whether those entities adhere to the values that are supposed to be exemplified in those sports.
If a player is punished for an egregious cheating violation, I think that’s absolutely my business. If a player is fined for dancing around the clubhouse drunk with a lampshade on his/her head, that’s probably a different story because it doesn’t really have bearing on the product I’m paying for. If the Tour fines someone for that behavior for conduct unbecoming, then that’s not so much my concern.
by Double Eagle on Sep 3, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Your money because…you pay to go to certain tournaments, buy equipment or products from sponsors who support golf, you buy a USGA membership? That gives you the expectation to know the ins and outs of PGA Tour? What product are you paying for?
(I’m not trying to be snarky, I’m just truly not following your rationale.)
I write about golf at www.tees2greens.com, too.
If we agree that pros make money
thanks to the interest by the public who pay to watch them, then they owe it to us to be honest in the way they play the game. Rules and punishment when those rules are broken should be made public. Anything less and the public would walk away.
Indirectly...
I agree, but don’t Pros makes their money from the companies who fork over millions to sponsor an event and provide a purse?
I don’t disagree that many fans and followers of the game believe in the integrity of the sport…and being honest about rules violations, for the benefit of understanding and maintaining the high standards isn’t out of line to expect.
But honestly, I would say the majority of golf fans are apathetic to the “rules violators” and if the LPGA/PGA Tour keeps it hush hush, I don’t think it will make a bit of difference to their bottom line. Do you?
I write about golf at www.tees2greens.com, too.
Red.....very good points, but
this seems to be a case of a rule violation that was then compounded by an attempt to cover it up (alleged). It is now out in the public and has to be addressed and put to bed to minimize potential damage. I can’t imagine any sponsor or potential sponsor wanting to be mentioned in the same sentence with cheating….ie…“So and So suspended for cheating in the JoeBlow Classic”….not a headline anyone wants to see. Hopefully, for all involved, this will be a big misunderstanding.
The Saints ARE the SUPER BOWL CHAMPS....WHO DAT!
I think there is a difference here...
between “attempting to cheat” and “attempting to cover up”…from all that I’ve read so far, I’d say that yes, it looks like there might have been intent to cheat by at least one player, but the bottom line is, someone acknowldeged the rules violation and both players were punished by the DQ.
It sounds to me like the LPGA tour is still compiling it’s facts and isn’t “covering up” anything – especially if Tour Policy is that these issues are not made public.
Now as for the argument that maybe these things should be made public, that would be an issue of the Tour Policy, not just this incident, right?
I write about golf at www.tees2greens.com, too.
They make the money from the companies..
who sponsor the week so the fans can see the company ad…those fans the company want custom from. It’s all tied in…no fans, no pros.
Precisely
No fans, no pros is the perfect way to state it.
If a bunch of club pros get together and play for money and cheat their brains out, I couldn’t care less because I have no stake in the event.
As soon as I’m paying for it one way or another, then it’s fair for me to ask that the integrity of the product be fully transparent.
1. I pay money to attend tournaments here and there.
2. I contribute to TV ratings which allow broadcasters to charge enough to advertisers so that they may pay for the rights to televise the tournaments. Indirectly, that contributes to the purses.
The USGA membership doesn’t really apply and buying products from sponsors isn’t really the same, so much, though there is certainly indirect monetary flow there.
And again, I’m not asking to know the ins and outs of the Tour. I’m expecting to know that the product that I’m paying for is on the up and up and isn’t compromised by cheating or other collusion that would make me start to look at pro golf like pro wrestling or roller derby. If a player is disciplined for cheating, I expect to hear about it. If a player comes down with herpes, that’s none of my business.
conversely
If a player is portrayed by it’s Sponsor as one thing and you buy their products because you like they way they are portrayed and later find out they are not the person that you were sold on then it “IS YOUR BUSINESS”
"pain is only weakness leaving the body"
Sort of
The sponsor is to blame for that, not the player as much or the Tour at all. I would evaluate my relationship with the sponsor at that point. A person shilling clubs or shoes doesn’t entitle me to a piece of their life should I choose to buy those products, especially if the sponsor is the one portraying the person inaccurately.
Since this is clearly a Tiger Woods metaphor, then I’ll just say that if Nike sells me that Tiger the greatest person in the world and isn’t banging everything that moves and I find out later that isn’t the case, then Nike is who I’m upset with. If Tiger Woods played a wrong ball on the 19th hole on Monday of the 2008 U.S. Open and made Stevie keep it quiet, then you’re damn right it’s my business.
What a player does when the cameras are off doesn’t entice me to buy products. What the player accomplishes on the course entices me to buy products.
I didn't mention Tiger
But seeing how you did, lol Prior to November I am sure there are a lot of parents that went out and purchased NIKE stuff because it was used by Tiger and the kids wanted it. I doubt that would be the case today.
"pain is only weakness leaving the body"
But your beef is with the sponsor...
not with the player, per se. Your money went to the sponsor, not the player.
It is a good parallel actually. If I feel the LPGA isn’t providing a level playing field, I hurt the LPGA by not consuming their product. To keep my money/eyeballs/etc, the LPGA sanctions the player. In the case of the mysterious player who doesn’t meet the standards set by his or her public persona, I don’t by the products said player endorses. The companies that buy the endorsements have the choice of publicly dropping the player or sticking by the player.
By the way, count me in on wanting to know sanctions for on course transgressions, including slow play. I think (at least in the case of the PGA) the lack of public acknoledgement is more because of the clubby athmosphere of professional golf than anything.
I’m still waiting for that argument to a police officer to get him out of a ticket. “I pay your salary !” (getting out of tickets sure is easeier with cleavage and tears on demand) :-D
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
All of a sudden, these video ads are playing without me hitting play. Anybody else having that problem ?
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
Hey Gang...here's my take on this whole thing..
The two ladies got DQ’d….Ok…How did that happen ? Was it because the players themselves came forward, even after signing the score cards ? Did someone else, caddy’s/fellow competitors say something ? We don’t know all the facts…..For this caddy to give an “interview” is completely off base….His job is to carry the bag, provide yardages, and TALK TO HIS PLAYER. Something is wrong here with this guy….there’s and old saying “if it walks like a duck, sounds like a Duck and looks like a Duck,, it usually is a Duck” I can’t see these two players jeopardizing their carriers over this issue…As for the LPGA to make a headline out of it….No way….it accomplishes nothing…the penalty was handed out and that should be the end of it….The tour isn’t trying to sweep ;anything under a rug….Neither the men’s tour or the ladies tour has ever gone public. with discipline issues…..what happens in house, stays in house….and that’s the way it should be…I think some of the posters here, have forgotten that….sorry, just MHO….STUB
STUBBO
He was an assigned local caddy for the tournament and from where I sit I believe him. He only knew each of the players for two days.
"pain is only weakness leaving the body"
Hey Jump...right, he was an assigned CADDY...
He told Ryan that he put the bag down in the fairway and than was doing yardage….OK, just suppose he put the bag down at the wrong ball….This is where I have a problem….If, and I have had a heck of a lot of caddies, If that person doesn’t know where my ball went, or even makes no attempt to identify it,…bending over and looking, etc….he isn’t earning his money and I get rid of him….Doesn’t matter how many days he did or did not know them….As he said, the Korean girls give them lots of work….So do the job, and keep your mouth shut to the press….He said he told her on the green, after she had putted out and handed him the ball and putter….Now, lets fast forward a bit….the girls signed the cards….Than who was the one/ones that told the rules official of the violation ? I think, and this is my opinion, that the two players were not clear on the rule here….sound familiar?,,,,sign and then ask?….don’t know….I don’t think we have all the facts here….Sorry….STUB
Courtgolf
He did say something on the green. He informed his player that she played the wrong ball. It isn’t his job to “tell her to take a penalty” or to say anything to anyone. He informed his player of an infraction and it is totally up to her to remedy the situation. Having caddied in professional tournaments a little bit it is clear to me that he did everything he was supposed to in the situation. He is a caddie who knew the girl for 3 days, not a moral policeman with the right to demand her to do anything.
Dishonesty is to golf what steroids are to baseball
This must not be tolerated.
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