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Jesus Did Not Take the Wheel with Corey Pavin's Ryder Cup Picks

I went to Catholic school from kindergarten through the end of high school. My exposure to religion during my formative years was nothing short of total immersion. When most people hear that, I think they walk away with the notion that I was indoctrinated into the Catholic faith and that this is the major aim of such schools. 

I sense the same kind of cringing when athletes make reference to God, giving glory to Him, or any such monologue before or after competition. Square peg, round wafer. It just doesn't seem to fit. Even for me, it just does not seem to belong.

That said, faith is a part of the function that defines me. I believe in God. There is a much more complicated set of canons that guide my thinking after that, but I would hope to have those beliefs respected - whether I choose to keep them to myself or not so much.

All of that is a lead into John Paul Newport's interesting look into the murmurs that circulate in PGA Tour circles around the growing numbers of the vocal Christian sect with Tour cards. Newport discusses insinuations that Ryder Cup captain Corey Pavin made his four captain's picks on the basis of his faith - he converted to Christianity from Judaism for his first wife.

Simply put, I don't see the influence. John Paul looked at the selections - three Christians, one Buddhist top ranked player - and came away with basically the same conclusion. With some 30 to 50 people regularly attending weekly prayer meetings at Tour stops, it's hard to wonder if up to a fourth of the field each week is a regular. Then add in the strong Republican leanings of the Tour, which is delving more frequently into religious overtones, and maybe this is more of a red-blue battle than anything.

The blue in this case, though, is that of the flag of the European Union. By and large, Europe is viewed as doubly secular and - using terribly misguided American political vernacular - socialist. The religious subtleties uttered by many players on the American squad have been and will continue to be fodder for European writers and fans which seek to jab Americans in the mouth before their charter plane even lands in Wales.

It's a condition of the passion behind the Ryder Cup. Long giving the appearance of being absent in the Americans, it appears this 2010 squad has a connection based, in part, on God - in addition to country. That combination is long an American mantra (to completely mess up this religious discussion further).

Whatever unites a team of people behind a cause for good, short of war, jihad, or crusade, should not be questioned. If the American dozen prefer to raise the communion chalice ahead of the Ryder Cup, have at it. These men find strength in what they feel is a real presence of God.

That's doesn't mean Jesus took Corey Pavin's wheel when it came to Ryder Cup picks. What does He know about picking a team of fallible people anyhow? He and Greg Norman are the only two guys that can hit a 1-iron.

Honestly, the more interesting query is: what guided Colin Montgomerie's picks? There seems to be some real conjecture about picking an Irishman out of form currently and in these matches, leaving off a two-time winner on Tour this season, and dissing a top ten player in favor of a different, marginal Englishman. 

Golf tournaments may typically end on Sundays, but the influence on the Ryder Cup's cathedral of grass is skill. Let's leave it at that.

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Kinda throwing the Christian to the headlines.

And condolences re your Catholic school background, Ryan. Been there, muddled through that. Dealt with many a nun sequitur.

by TXQ on Sep 13, 2010 11:48 AM EDT reply actions  

wow – immersed in religion growing up…going to a Catholic school. Who’da thunk it ? :-D

I tend to believe that this is not an accurate story because he is looking at things with a modern eye towards religion. “Back in the day” most people were just looked at as Christian, or at least church going types unless they said so. This is not a “growing number in the Christian sect”, just a little more outspoken in what has become a religious cliche in the sports world. The “I’d like to thank my lord and savior Jesus Christ for this victory”….yada yada yada…statements, not to mention the kneeling in the endzone, crossing yourself in the batters box, and however many other things in sports are just more forward these days than they used to be.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Sep 13, 2010 11:55 AM EDT reply actions  

That’s a good point, Court. I added “vocal” to “growing Christian sect.”

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by Ryan Ballengee on Sep 13, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

JIST A DANG MINUTE HERE RYAN

Your missin a bunch of good 1 iron players…Hogan, Sevie, and that priest in Caddy shack…what’s his name Court? Tiger hits a 1 iron stinger….Jist cause your in religious mode, guys like Chicago will think that what ya said was gospel….jist sayin, ya know….STUB

by thinker on Sep 13, 2010 12:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Haha, this is true, there were plenty of good 1 iron players – just sharing a joke I was told when I was just starting golf many years ago!

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by Ryan Ballengee on Sep 13, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL – Bishop Pickering

Does having a 2-iron bent to 1 iron loft count as a 1 iron ?

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Sep 13, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

As much as watching Mass on TV does :)

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by Ryan Ballengee on Sep 13, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

the fact that you haven't been struck dead yet

Probably means God doesn’t give a damn about the DMCA.

"(I)f you think you've got an inside track to absolute truth, you become doctrinaire, humorless and intellectually constipated." Saul Alinsky

by dianemarie on Sep 13, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure Mr. Denver's (Deutschendorf's) family

can take comfort in that. I’m not sure why people think God would destroy supposedly good people for its own purposes. Would you like to try to explain that to me?

"(I)f you think you've got an inside track to absolute truth, you become doctrinaire, humorless and intellectually constipated." Saul Alinsky

by dianemarie on Sep 13, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

you might have been kidding, but...

I can’t count the number of times I’ve heard someone say, “God took (insert name of loved one or close friend) home.”

"(I)f you think you've got an inside track to absolute truth, you become doctrinaire, humorless and intellectually constipated." Saul Alinsky

by dianemarie on Sep 13, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even though God is everywhere, He had nothing to do with the Immaculate Reception.

That afternoon He was busy making sure a pride of lions devoured a newborn giraffe, to maintain the balance of nature.

by TXQ on Sep 13, 2010 12:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Every time I see the Bradshaw to Tatum to Harris touchdown replayed on television I get all giggly. I don’ t like the Oakland Raiders.

"(I)f you think you've got an inside track to absolute truth, you become doctrinaire, humorless and intellectually constipated." Saul Alinsky

by dianemarie on Sep 13, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt Jesus took the wheel last Thanksgiving night.

A little backseat driving, maybe, but so tough to prove.

by TXQ on Sep 13, 2010 1:00 PM EDT reply actions  

I think it's just the pendulum swinging back...

Back in the mid-80s to early-90s, the Christians on the PGA Tour were very “vocal” — large number of Christian books based on golf (featuring those players) came out, for example. (I know, because I was working in a Christian bookstore at the time.)

Then, in the mid-90s, the “Buddist swing” began, with players like Vijay and Tiger along with teachers like Dr. Joe Parent (Zen Golf) coming to the fore.

And now the pendulum is beginning a swing back the other way. I don’t see it as unusual, it’s just the way we human beings seem to function. The character questions that have come up in the last few years concerning PEDs and such have probably heightened our recognitions of these swings as well… fans just want to know more about what makes their favorite athletes tick, and the players (regardless of what beliefs they hold) don’t mind talking about it.

Mike Southern
www.ruthlessgolf.com

by Ruthless Mike on Sep 13, 2010 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

That’s a good point, Mike. I had forgotten about that Zen Golf stuff!

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by Ryan Ballengee on Sep 13, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

do you consider a couple of “Zen Golf” books a religious movement ?

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Sep 13, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Religion

Personally I find it inconsiderate and obnoxious when people are expound upon their religious beliefs in a secular environment. Why should prayer be imposed on anyone who’s not into prayer? Why should Jesus, Buddha or Mohamed be imposed upon anyone in the context of a sporting event?

Players rarely talk about their politics… religion should be treated the same way.

by golfgirl on Sep 13, 2010 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

AMEN!

"(I)f you think you've got an inside track to absolute truth, you become doctrinaire, humorless and intellectually constipated." Saul Alinsky

by dianemarie on Sep 13, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with you Golf Girl

"pain is only weakness leaving the body"

by progolf on Sep 13, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not so sure that people can’t talk politics or religion in a secular environment and not offend. I mean, to a complete opposite end, Jon Stewart (whose NY Mag profile I’m reading between typing this message) does it every night. It can done when it’s not so matter of fact.

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by Ryan Ballengee on Sep 13, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have no objection to talking about religion…or politics. In fact I really enjoy discussing both. And I enjoy Jon Stewart’s show!

What I don’t like is having someone else’s religion/religious practices imposed on me in a secular setting, ie: you go to a meeting/event that has nothing whatsoever to do with religion and all of a sudden some speaker get’s up and requests that everyone join together in a moment of prayer. That’s what I’m talking about and I maintain that it’s obnoxious, inconsiderate and rude. And it happens way too often here in the US.

by golfgirl on Sep 14, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd love to know what YOU do in those situations, Patricia?! ;o)

I’m totally unnerved when invited to e.g. a christening and at the conclusion, the pastor invites total strangers to hug those around them, whilst reciting “Peace Be With You”. A baleful glare clearly indicating that you will be kneed in the groin if you touch me (a nice handshake will do, thank you very much) is probably a bit over the top?

by WendyUK on Sep 14, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

That said...

… we can probably assume that the Molinaris are Catholic and that if Monty had wanted a God Squad he would’ve called upon Herr Langer. ;o)

by golfgirl on Sep 13, 2010 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

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