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On Dustin Johnson, Defining Bunkers, and the Mirage Known as Whistling Straits

 

 

This isn't going to be a case that Dustin Johnson didn't break a rule in the final round of the PGA Championship. At no time will I say that the PGA of America made up a rule. No cynical quips will come from my mouth saying the ruling would have been different if it were Tiger or Phil in that situation.

My gripe with the PGA of America (and Pete Dye) is that this was ever an issue in the first place.  

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Whistling Straits has some immeasurable number of what Pete Dye calls bunkers - spaces of sand that were put there on purpose to serve as a hazard to players. Since the official count of bunkers is unknown, the actual definition of what is a bunker is in question. With that logic, the PGA of America decided to take the easy way out and declare every spec, every inch of sand as a bunker.

By taking this cop out of a local rule, the PGA of America could hold its hands up in the air in the event a situation like this happened. After telling an angry mob, "Whoa, buddies," they could point to the rules sheet and say, "Rules are rules."

Effectively, that's what Mike Wilson did on Sunday night when speaking with Peter Kostis on CBS about the ruling that cost Johnson his spot in the playoff. Consulting the handy-dandy supplemental rules sheet, Wilson said the players knew of the sheets, had a copy placed in their lockers, and that Dustin should have been more careful.

All true. Problem is that Mike Wilson was not fully truthful with Kostis. He withheld a key line in the local rules that would have made the definition of a bunker much clearer for any player. The sheet has a note that states, "Where necessary, blue dots will define the margin of a bunker."  

On national TV, it seems like a good time to share that key point. Unfortunately, Wilson didn't share that key piece of intel which would have significantly hurt their defense.

Further, if there were blue dots defining that bunker at any point during the week, they were long gone by Sunday afternoon. Why? Because thousands upon thousands of people had apparently been standing in it all weekend. The PGA of America allowed for the spectators to stand in a hazard - hundreds of them. They were throwing trash in bunkers. Some probably took a leak in a bunker or two. Maybe a love child was hatched in one after hours.

No one stands in bunkers on the PGA Tour. For as much as I joked on Twitter that the Tour is now considering a "bunker seats" package for the 2011 Players Championship, this kind of thing just never happens. The rule of thumb typically is that if patrons can stand there, it's in play and not a hazard. Fans don't sit in water hazards, however refreshing they might be.

Certainly, Dustin Johnson shouldn't have gotten to that point in the first place. A colossal block like that on the 72nd hole of a major championship had Johnson ripe for a second chokejob in a major in the same season. Conjuring images of 90s era Phil Mickelson, Johnson hit as wayward of a drive as he possibly could in that situation. At least Phil Mickelson was saved by a merchandise tent at Winged Foot in 2006.

Even still, with Johnson being so many yards off of the beaten - and I mean beaten - path, the rules official with the last group should have been omnipresent. The official should have tailed Johnson all the way to his ball, stopped him before any consideration on how to play the shot, and said, "Dustin, that's a bunker." Or tried to spy some blue dots that might have outlined the thing.

When playing my local munis, I can walk upon a patch of dirt and sand like that one and think, "That's hardpan. I can ground my club." That's probably what Dustin Johnson did, relieved that he had any kind of lie following such a big miscue. He wasn't thinking about the rules sheet distributed at the beginning of the week. Yeah, he should have been. Or his caddie should have had it written on his hand like Sarah Palin does to remember, well, anything. Even still, in the moment, six square feet of sand and dirt never appear to be a bunker. 

New rule: if a dog can dig a space into dirt in less than ten minutes, it's not a bunker. It's a waste hazard.

Having been at a bunch of major championships, the foot traffic is brutal on a course. Grass is trampled and, often by the end of the week, new soil and sand are where grass once grew. Who knows how many bunkers - by the PGA of America's definition - were created this week by spectators.

In 2007, the USGA held their US Senior Open here. Mike Davis addressed the bunker definition by sticking a rules official with every group and commanding them to shepherd in players that might be lost in the grazing fields off of Lake Michigan. They were the way, the truth, and the light to shed on what was a bunker. 

David Price, the PGA of America official assigned to the final group on Sunday, clearly missed the mark.

And what's to say that Johnson, or any slew of other players, didn't commit the same offense this week elsewhere at Whistling Straits? Without cameras on every shot - and with CBS showing so many damn commercials, we missed a lot - these kind of vagaries likely went unnoticed. Undoubtedly, any situation like this was immaterial to the outcome of the championship, but the oddity here is that Johnson was caught because he was playing so well.

Dustin Johnson said that the rules officials told him, "Any piece of sand is a bunker." Any? Forget filling in my divots ever again for fear that I incur the wrath of God for creating a bunker by mistake. When my local club fills in punchmarks from aeration twice per year with sand, I'll be sure not to ground my putter.

It is absolutely true that it is incumbent upon the player (and his caddie) to know the rules - even the local ones that make absolutely no sense whatsoever. By his own admission, Johnson never once scoped out the rules sheet. As Roberto de Vicenzo would say, he is a stupid for doing that. At the same time, these guys get a sheet every week on Tour to share the bizarre quirks of the track for that week. Invariably, they are only designed to share the news you don't want to have to recall - what color the stakes are for hazards and other bad karma no one, much less the guy who choked away the 54 hole US Open lead, wants to think of inviting into their life.

Johnson and his caddie are to blame. The PGA of America shoulders some serious responsibility for lazily making a blanket ruling, then not assigning the proper resources to marshal the instructions. Oh, and for also leaving out a key piece of information on national television. If I wanted that kind of chatter, I would have watched MSNBC or Fox News. I watch golf as a respite from posturing, half-truth, and incomprehensible black & white definitions of complex issues.

Really, though, Pete Dye should not get off without some blame, too. This is his track. It's his baby. His Guernica even. And now it's marred for life.

Earlier in the week, the broadcasters, Dye, and Straits-logo inspiration/course owner Herb Kohler boasted about the 12,000+ truck loads of sand brought into Whistling Straits. And for what? To create random, often untouched sand areas? The functional intent of supposed bunkers that wouldn't hold a Frigidaire befuddles me. It looks great, sure, but at the cost of playability and a number of sprained ankles.

Where else on Earth does this happen? Some ice course in Antarctica where the whole layout is one frozen hazard? This is such an anomaly in professional golf that the PGA of America should have gone out of their way to clearly delineate any bunker that could have been remotely questioned as a patch of dirt, or something other than worn grass. The other feature more ridiculous in major championship golf is Royal Liverpool's in-course out of bounds - basically creating a stupid picnic area inside of a golf course.

The end result for Whistling Straits is that it is a bazillion dollar investment to mask TPC Sawgrass as some kind of links golf course. The challenge - like most Dye course - is prescriptive. Hit it here. Then here. And two putt. Repeat. Superimpose Ponte Vedra Beach's Stadium Course over many elements of Whistling Straits, and it becomes clear that the money spent to create "Ballybunion on steroids" was really just to create the illusion of a unique test. 

The Straits course has its strong points, yes, but so many unnatural design features cannot be masked by wispy grass and gorgeous views of Lake Michigan. Each time CBS went to the MetLife blimp shot and panned out to the whole property, the clear difference between the Straits course and the surrounding farmland became clear. The sign of a great golf course is an integrated approach - one where the grounds of the course blend in with the surroundings, not stand out like a pair of Loudmouth pants.

Dye's course hosts the PGA Championship in 2015, and the Ryder Cup in 2020. This course will change by then. It must if it intends to be a major championship venue beyond an unproven few decades.

Like Naomi Campbell, Whistling Straits is the prettiest girl in the room. The blinding beauty is such that it can hide all of its character flaws - the contrived greens, awful closing hole, and faux-natural surroundings to hide target golf. In a zany recent twist, Campbell was recently outed as a recipient of blood diamonds.

Whistling Straits has blood on its hands. It's a triple murder - a suicide and a homicide. And the third death? A massive heart attack.

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What about DJ's role?

Any full discussion of what happened last night has to take into account of DJ’s decisions, not just they layout or course design. When you are leading the PGA Championship on the 72nd hole, and you’re playing on a course known for its ridiculous bunkers, you have to triple check whether any sandy area that your ball lies in is in fact a bunker. To just assume that he was in a waste bunker was beyond stupid. Say what you will about the validity of the design, but that’s irrelevant. As much as one may not like the design or pointless bunkers, the fact is that was the course they played yesterday, and he should have taken better care of knowing the rules.

by ajkurki on Aug 16, 2010 10:19 AM EDT reply actions  

I believe...

Ryan agrees that based on the rules sheet provided that Dustin was in fact in breach of a rule…yes, he absolutely should have at least asked about his lie. It seems the point he’s trying to make above is that general condition and use of a “bunker” on a golf course would not include potentially thousands of spectators walking through it, trash being left in it, or the original design being destroyed. And I agree with Ryan. It won’t change the outcome, but maybe it should be addressed for future events at this venue.

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by red tees on Aug 16, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree that DJ is culpable here – should’ve read the sheet more clearly. But he’s not the lone person to blame here.

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by Ryan Ballengee on Aug 16, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

For sure. But different people are at fault for different things. DJ is at fault for grounding his club in a bunker and not making sure that it was a waste hazard. DJ’s caddy should have also known better. There should have been a rules official with the group—I never saw one. Pete Dye probably overdid it with the bunkers on the course. But nothing changes the fact that it’s the player’s responsibility to ensure he doesn’t break the rules, regardless of the “contrived” design of the course.

I’ll bet they either declare all bunkers outside the ropes as waste bunkers for 2015. Or maybe they’ll just make bigger signs in the locker room:)

by ajkurki on Aug 16, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I were them, I’d fill in a ton of them with grass. Or quicksand.

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by Ryan Ballengee on Aug 16, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL – we might lose short guys like Mike Weir in the quick sand…then again…we wouldn’t have to look at Rickie Fowler’s neon orange, either. :-)

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Aug 16, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Once again – there WAS a rules official with the group. It is NOT the job of a rules official to stand over every shot and tell the player what is and is not going on with each shot…UNLESS HE IS ASKED. Golf is a game that is self-policed. You are supposed to know the rules.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Aug 16, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fine. Even more blame to place on DJ then. As I said it’s ultimately his responsibility.

by ajkurki on Aug 16, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

The transformation is complete...

…RB, you have become a full fledged member of the GWAA with this post. Accusing Mike Wilson of being intentionally deceitful to Kostis ? Seriously ? That is typical medai blather. Kostis had the same access to the local rules as Dustin Johnson – end of story. Blue Dots or no Blue Dots making any sort of rule wrong ? And just how does any mention of blue dots affect anything on TV ?

I’m begging you – burn that card ! Call the office and cancel your membership ! There must be a 12 step recovery program for GWAA members out there ! Save yourself while there’s still time !!

The PGA actually made the rule simpler. Mark Wilson explained that very clearly. There are so many bunkers and those bunkers run in and out of what might be a roped area. Ropes get moved and come down during the course of a week – how do you expect 156 players to know exactly where those areas are supposed to be ? As goofy as it sounds, telling the players that ANY sandy area on the course should be looked at as a bunker is the simplest way.

And just when did Naomi Campbell get to be the prettiest girl in the room ? (lol)

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Aug 16, 2010 10:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Court, totally disagree. Making that policy was a cop out on their part. They did it because they didn’t want to commit the resources to enforce the rules and – clearly – didn’t follow through by defining bunkers with blue dots (like they said they would).

Saying “any piece of sand” is a bunker is absolutely retarded. The PGA of America gets no pass for just making some idiotic blanket statement.

Yes, Johnson is culpable. He broke the rule. But the handling of it by the PGA was atrocious and deserves a call out.

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by Ryan Ballengee on Aug 16, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I haven’t, but I think they were thinking along the lines of red and yellow paint for water hazards.

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by Ryan Ballengee on Aug 16, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

MD...I'm with you

in over 60 years in this game….NEVER, AND I MEAN NEVER have I heard abut Blue dots…or any dots for that matter….stakes,, solid red, white paint lines….but no dots….STUB

by thinker on Aug 16, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I once saw three blue dots in a row but then realized it was

merely an ellipsis, which had no business being on a golf course. It just made everyone pause for no reason.

by TXQ on Aug 16, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL ! Grammar humor – gotta love it.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Aug 16, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

LMAO – commit the resources to enforce the rules ? And what rule would that be ? The rule was clearly posted. It was cleary explained. 155 other guys played the course and 155 other guys got it right. The same rule was in effect in 2004 and 155 guys got it right – Stuart Appleby got it wrong.

Playing the blame game is weak and, dare I say, typically media.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Aug 16, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, you don’t know how many guys got it right or wrong because there were only rules officials with the top five groups over the weekend. Enforcement, therefore, was next to impossible.

It’s funny, because if we were playing golf together and came upon such a feature, none of us would call it a bunker. And if someone did, I’d laugh in their face.

Clearly you didn’t read my whole post because I say at least three times that DJ is culpable and ultimately broke a posted rule. Let’s get past that and move onto an actual debate of why this happened in the first place. That was the point of the column.

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by Ryan Ballengee on Aug 16, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry – but that reasoning works if you’re having a tournament of beginners who could be excused for not knowing all the rules. Johnson, in case you haven’t noticed, is a professional golfer who should have known the rules, but admits that he didn’t bother paying attention to the local rules that were posted everywhere and handed to him when he checked in at the beginning of the week.

I know you made Johnson culpable. The problem is that you decided to go way beyond reasonability to point fingers at anybody and everybody you could think of to take blame away from Johnson – and you’re wrong for doing it because the rule is plain and simple.

There were no reports of anybody else being penalized for grounding their club in a bunker. So 155 other guys got it right.

If we were playing Whistling Straights – not “any other golf course” – this would be an issue if it came up. You would still be wrong if you grounded your club in the bunker. The players were told – if there is sand on the ground – consider it a bunker. End of story – end of argument. Pointing fingers anywhere other than Johnson is wrong.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Aug 16, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

excuse me – there were no reports of any of the other 155 guys being penalized after the round for grounding their club mistakenly in a bunker. We don’t know if it happened and the player penalized himself (as you’re supposed to do in golf) or if it just didn’t happen.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Aug 16, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right, that’s my point – we don’t know 100%. Maybe 95%. :)

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by Ryan Ballengee on Aug 16, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

if the officials didn’t penalize anybody after the fact – then it’s 100%

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Aug 16, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

We 100% know the number of penalties assessed – self or by an official. We don’t know if 100% of them were caught.

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by Ryan Ballengee on Aug 16, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah – so now you’re accusing these guys of cheating, eh ? was that you standing to the side of Watney in the interview, wearing the white Nike hat who laughed when Watney said that none of the guys out there would cheat ?

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Aug 16, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

155 isn’t right. You can’t say that with certainty. There just weren’t noted penalties.

“If it’s sand, it’s a bunker” was the rule, yes. The blame isn’t on them for that part of it. It’s on them for doing it in the first place.

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by Ryan Ballengee on Aug 16, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

for them doing WHAT in the first place ? stop pointing fingers and give us your “correct way” to do this ?

how much more simple can it be than “if there is sand on the ground, play it as a bunker” "

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Aug 16, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

So even 1 square foot of sand is a bunker? What about worn down grass with some sand around it? Bunker, too? Can patrons create bunkers? Sit in them, too? No, no, no.

The USGA did it right for the Senior Open – have a rules official on it like a hawk. Especially true with the world watching on the last hole.

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by Ryan Ballengee on Aug 16, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

So you’re going to suggest that the galleries were carrying buckets to gather sand and pour it in a depression to make their own bunker ? Come on.

It’s a bizarre golf course. They admit that the bunkers are constantly changing – but yes – if your ball is sitting in a depression that has sand in it – IN THIS SITUATION – heck yes you consider it to be a bunker – or you CALL the official for a ruling.

The rules officials do not tell players what to do if they are not asked – period.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Aug 16, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Has anyone had a good look at the photo/video at the top of the page? If that’s not a bunker, then what is it?

by chip n'putt on Aug 16, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

no doubt – but it was the situation and Johnson’s ignorance of the rule that confused things. you just don’t see people standing in bunkers when they are playing a shot…except here. it even fooled Feherty.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Aug 16, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fooled Feherty? Is that a trick question?

by chip n'putt on Aug 16, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol – like him or not – the guy knows the game

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Aug 16, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

He does and he should have been a little more circumspect in his interview with Johnson afterward. He was offering his opinion and that is not his job as a member of the press when interviewing a player.

by chip n'putt on Aug 16, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like him too, but I think he got a little carried away in the moment.

by chip n'putt on Aug 16, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

In Glory's Last Shot, Glory Missed It's Chance

I woke up this morning hoping to find closure on this DJ issue. Not there yet, but I came to two conclusions:

1) Like most sports, golf as a game has shown its not perfect and is subject to these types of travesties when the results of a competition can be hindered by its rules and officials. This is not ’nam, there are rules! Righfully so! And without rules, there is chaos.

2) I also think that the forever proud “rules of golf” on which we all too often lean, and all it’s historic etiquette, can gets in its own way. Don’t you think we sacrifice some natural purity with so many meticulous rules that aren’t close to being intuitive? You know the rules are going to get in the way when each player has to be accompanied by a rules official. It happened at Harborside earlier this year and will happen again. Whether you’re calling the penalty on yourself or its a rules official calling you out, the rules should help shape the game and maintain it’s order, not determine it’s outcome.

All of RB’s points are top notch. It was a combination of DJ and his caddie, the PGA, Pete Dye, and David Price that caused this to happen. But when when we’re talking about blue-dotted lines, whether a bunker is or is not a bunker and not about players executing shots under pressure, I also think we can blame the rules.

Semper Ubi Sub Ubi

by mdbrigham on Aug 16, 2010 11:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Who Knows, Maybe Kaymer Wins Anyway

I think it a great disservice to Martin Kaymer to overlook his victory. He made the putt on the 72nd hole to position himself for a potential playoff. He made the birdie putt on the second playoff hole to recover a stroke lost to Bubba Watson, and he played smart victorious golf on the final hole to make darned sure he closed the deal.

Kaymer is your champion, and he is deservedly your champion. Dustin Johnson may have won the playoff had there been no penalty and that we will never know. That’s no matter of consequence, however, to Kaymer, who did what he needed to do on more than one occasion in the last four holes he played. That tells me he deserved the Wannamaker Trophy and I think he should be recognized as the winner, not as a modern day Paul Lawrie.

by Charles Boyer on Aug 16, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very much agree, OMP. And there’ll be a Kaymer post a little later today. The guy played fabulous golf all weekend and made like 1 bogey in the final 55 holes of regulation. That’s awesome stuff.

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by Ryan Ballengee on Aug 16, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well said !

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Aug 16, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

At the end of the day...

You can only blame yourself for not knowing or abiding by the rules. It is part of the players responsibility. As with any job, (and golf is their job) people usually get a employee handbook, with company rules and regulations, dress codes, holidays and do’s and don’ts. With any companay, (including mine) we occasionaly add changes in the form of an addendum to the employee manuel. In Dustin Johnsons case, The PGA rules of golf book was / is his employee handbook and the Whistling Straits local rules are the employee addendum.

"pain is only weakness leaving the body"

by progolf on Aug 16, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

You wouldn't be the only guy

who took Martin Kaymer in your top 5? Plus McIlroy? Teasing apart, Kaymer wasindeed a worthy winner. Does anyone know of/ has played a links course in Ireland with similar rulings on bunkers/sand? I’ve played the odd links course, but the bunkers have still been clearly defined.

by WendyUK on Aug 16, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks OMP....for getting us

back on track…We do have a winner, and a good one….His ball striking has always been top drawer….it has been his putting that was suspect….not this week tho….good job well done sir…..STUB

by thinker on Aug 16, 2010 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

What a great discussion!! I enjoy all the back & forth on different points. But even after all of this, I’m still in the camp that parts of the course that are normally bunkers but are open to the gallery should not be considered bunkers due to excessive damage – they should be waste areas.

I do believe Johnson was in error and in his haste he did not assess his situation correctly.

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by red tees on Aug 16, 2010 1:58 PM EDT reply actions  

...or just littered.

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by red tees on Aug 16, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe that was a bunker for sure however,

How come there was no RAKE in or next to said bunker ? Just curious.

"pain is only weakness leaving the body"

by progolf on Aug 16, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point, PG, and yet with so many traps out there, they might not need

 to plant a rake next to each one, since there’s another most likely a few yards away.

Sideshow Bob played the course and had to be hospitalized after three holes.

by TXQ on Aug 16, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Besides

The fact that on many, many occasions players hit out of rough that has been trampled down by patrons ans in most cases it gives the player a clear advantage over it being 3" plus and un-trampled. Is un-trampled a word ? lolol

"pain is only weakness leaving the body"

by progolf on Aug 16, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

1200 bunkers – can you imagine the bill they’d get to order new rakes ? better guess is that they have rakes on the carts. 50,000 people limited to one side of the golf course – there would be a lot of missing and broken rakes outside the ropes.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Aug 16, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Prescriptive ... Not really

“like most Dye course – is prescriptive. Hit it here. Then here. And two putt.”

Not sure I agree with that. Dye always includes at least one drivable par 4 and usually one per nine. That fact alone denies your of hit, hit, two putt prescription a refill.

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by TheGreenBlazer on Aug 16, 2010 6:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Golf fans should not act like they are at a California off-road race.

The officials and event staff errored when they did not treat this space as an obstacle so why should we expect the player to. The local rule also discussed obstacles being marked with blue dots. Were they visible or were the crowds allowed to stand over them or were the dots just not there? I saw other areas marked on the ground (red paint) around the 18th green. Why are the fans in the obstacle at the same time the player is trying to hit The entire obstacle should be cleared of spectators once the ball has been hit into it. The official owed the player an obstacle free of spectators while the player is making a shot from that obstacle. This would at least give the player an opportunity to survey the area, free of spectators, and decide in his mind if he is indeed playing in an obstacle and ask for a ruling from the official if there is doubt. The official shouldn’t have to tell him he is in an obstacle (Like the did at the 2007 Senior Open) but should at least give the player a fair and full opportunity to make that determination himself. If he then chooses to ground his club he should be assessed the penalty.

by sports medic on Aug 16, 2010 7:02 PM EDT reply actions  

CG might appreciate this...

Someone named tommygov posted this on Woj’s column at ESPN.com

“i’m sorry, i can’t resist this……think Jack Nicholson….

Son, we play a game that has rules and those rules need to be enforced by men with oxford shirts, visors, and ties. Who’s gonna do it? You? You, Mr. Weekend Hack in cargo shorts? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for DJ and curse the USGA; you have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that DJ’s infraction, while tragic, probably saved spectators’ lives and that the USGA’s existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives.
You don’t want the truth because deep down in places you don’t talk about at parties you want those local rules, you need those local rules. We use words like hazard, grounding your club, and infraction. We use them as the backbone of a life trying to defend something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the fair play I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said “thank you,” and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest that you pick up a rule book and sheet and have a read. Either way, I don’t give a damn what you think a hazard should look like."

by sports medic on Aug 16, 2010 7:10 PM EDT reply actions  

HA !! That’s hilarous. Too bad we don’t have Nickolson reading it…or Rodney Dangerfield

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Aug 16, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Private Johnson was a sub-standard Golfer.”

“That’s not what you said. You said he was in danger. I said, “Grave danger?” You said, “Is there any other kind?” I can have the court reporter read it back to you"

(borrowed from a friend at Putter Talk)

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Aug 16, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

“You want the Ruling?”

“If it’s not too much trouble, sir.”

“Sure, Dustin, you can have the Ruling. But, you have to ask me nicely.”

=====

Prosecutor: “Private Johnson, I’m handing you a copy of the USGA rules, would you turn to the page that says you can ground your club in a trampled down bunker?”

Pvt. J: “Sir?”

Pros.: “You just testified that you thought you were allowed to ground your club in that sand. Please turn to the page of the Manual that says that.”

J: “Um, it’s not in there sir.”

P: “No further questions.”

Defense atty: “Pvt. Johnson, turn to the page of the Manual that describes the free food in the clubhouse, the free clubs in the tour vans, and the free schwag in your lockers every week.”

J: “That’s not in there either, sir.”

Def. Atty: “You mean you don’t get any of those things?”

J: “Oh, no sir. We get all that and a lot more. It’s good, too!”

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Aug 17, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

This wouldn't happen at an LPGA event...

By the time someone watching the tape delay on xxx Golf Channel in the clubhouse could radio it in, the rule official and scorer’s trailer would be out of Springfield and halfway to Toledo.

Could you imagine the confrontation in the video replay truck if this were Michelle Wie instead of DJ? By the time she would be done arguing we would be too far out of the NBC broadcast window to see the playoff and trophy presentation.

by sports medic on Aug 16, 2010 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

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