Thanks to Sarah Brown, Maybe Now We Can Regulate the Golf Ball?
This whole Sarah Brown wedge DQ situation has led to a blamestorming summit of sorts.
In the moment, the Duramed Futures Tour officials that pulled Brown off of the course and mistakenly disqualified her were to blame for an arrogant attitude toward a player and the obvious error in judgment. The Futures Tour and Brown's dad are thinking about laywering up because Keith Brown is demanding a Showcase Showdown's worth of money and DFT CEO Zayra Calderon wants a Press Your Luck $2000 (but not an extra spin).
But what about the USGA in all of this? James Achenbach poses the question in his post today about the situation, effectively saying that the USGA bungled both the implementation of the new groove rules (staggered at three major intervals of '10, '14, and '24 with an intermediate manufacturing step in '11) as well as the education component for players, officials, and the like.
Perhaps, but there were plenty of players that simply were not engaged enough to care about the changes. For every Stewart Cink - who shared great info about the changes - there was a Lucas Glover, who when asked by me about the grooves demo Dick Rugge was about to do at the USGA tech lab said, "I'm not interested in that."
If competitors aren't interested, then they're left to trust club manufacturers' reps. The guys at Ping really seem to know their stuff (as do the others, but Ping gets this more often).
Then it's left on the officials to know how to test, what to look for, and have the forethought of determining a process to handle these things.
Maybe the lack of Boy Scout preparedness - after all, assuredly the Brown family has a one, not three finger salute ready - is the issue. For a minute, though, can we revisit regulating the golf ball?
Time and time again, I've been told by the good folks at the USGA that is probably not in the cards. They have no intention to do it. They might be gathering info, might not be. Who knows. Manufacturers will point to the curtailing of PGA Tour driving distances to say that the ball doesn't need to be rolled back at all. Yeah, yeah.
Rolling back the ball is practical - much more so than a three-tiered implementation that has apparently befuddled way too many people in the pro ranks. I'm not saying that the golf world isn't smart enough to handle this, but it sure seems like there is a lot of confusion. If the ball rolls back into a tighter spec box - and not just on distance, but cover firmness, spin, and compression at impact - that seems a whole lot easier to test than grooves.
Amateurs don't even have to consider playing them. They could be implemented for specific tournaments. It sounds kind of crazy to go back to an era that essentially parallels the "small ball era", but is that such a bad idea?
Boo Weekley said this week that the PGA Tour is taking is easier on the guys this season because of grooves. Perhaps that has led to some greater scoring (though the 59, 60s, et al, are a condition of sitting-duck courses in wet conditions). In other words, with better and more strongly boxed in equipment standards, the tours can be more creative in how it approaches setups. That's great news for everyone. And it's clear that the scoring has not suffered. These guys and gals are pros. Beating the course is inevitable for them.
The recent run of Titleist ads suggests the importance of the golf ball because it is used on every shot. Keeping that in mind, is it worthwhile to reconsider regulating the one constant in every golf discipline?
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SO – what will you be calling your latest apples and oranges invention ? :-) I have no problem with the idea of rolling back the golf ball – but come on – you just turned into Evel Knievel jumping the Snake River Canyon by trying to go from a guy reading the USGA site wrong and DQ’ing this girl to rolling back the ball. It will always be easier to check 13 clubs than it will be to check every golf ball in someone’s bag.
By the way – did you see the article about the Canadian Tour experimenting with balls that are 10-20% shorter later this year ? They asked manufacturers to come up with some versions and the plan is to have some of the guys stick around after a tournament and do some testing.
Should be interesting.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
Distance isn't the issue.
In reality, average driving distance has decreased each of the last 5 years on Tour.
Adam Fonseca
by Adam Fonseca on Jul 29, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s still an issue, particularly for the majors, in how design responds.
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by Ryan Ballengee on Jul 29, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
how is a steadily increasing number of guys averaging over 300 yards a decrease ? More guys hitting 600+ yard par 5’s in two. More guys using 3-woods off the tee instead of drivers because driver would go through a fairway.
Distance is definitely an issue – not so much from a scoring standpoint, but from a natural resources standpoint. You just can’t keep expecting courses to add yardage just to keep up with these guys’ ability.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
Not true, court...
In 2007 there were 18 players who averaged over 300 yards off the tee. Average distance was 289 yards.
In 2008, the average driving distance was 287 yards and only 15 players averaged more than 300 yards.
In 2009 that dropped to only 8 players while average distance remained around 287 yards.
In 2010, the average driving distance is 285 yards.
Adam Fonseca
by Adam Fonseca on Jul 30, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
From there, you have to break down the use of drivers and three woods or even less club. Guys are having to back off the driver a bit this year
Try this page – http://www.pgatour.com/r/stats/info/?214 or this one http://www.pgatour.com/r/stats/info/?496
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
I agree Duffer. It’s not so much distance, but that it goes too straight. Put the spin back into the ball. If it goes sideways more, the shot makers come back.
Shotmaking is a dying (maybe dead) art. Would love to see that restored.
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by Ryan Ballengee on Jul 29, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
The distance wouldn’t be a problem if you put more spin on it. Let them hit it miles, but they need to be better than just good to hit 600 yard holes in two. That’s one of the reasons Tiger has gone to a softer ball and why he’s driving it so much better. It’a also why his wedge game is not so hot right now. Trading shot making for accuracy and length, is what the modern ball has done to the game.
I don't seem to have any trouble making it go sideways......
of course, when I want to turn it, then it goes straight…..stupid game.
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Thats because the pro's hit more 3 woods
than the old days when Driver was required. The road hole at St Andrews is a case in point. Always a driver 20 years ago, unless the wind was behind, they moved the tee back to make that a requirement once more. Distance is an issue…soon there will be 8,000 yard golf courses if they don’t roll it back.
Very well could be the case...
As such, I would see the point of drivers flying too far. However, these guys are still talented enough to control the distance on any club. If they are hitting 3-wood more often, then I would propose it has more to do with spin conditions (as others in this therad have suggested).
Adam Fonseca
by Adam Fonseca on Jul 30, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Eas – the guys on the Nationwide Tour play a course in south Georgia that is almost 7800 yards and most of the guys love it because they can just let loose off a lot of the tees. It’s a Davis Love III design and he did a great job building in run up areas in front of the greens instead of forcing carries over bunkers. (sort of British style). You’re right – someone is going to host a tournament on an 8000 yard course before too long.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
They hit a 3 wood
because the fairway bunkers have been set at 300 yards…so they "lay up " with a 3 wood to avoid trying to carry them. If that leaves the 200 yards that’s a 5 iron anyway. No problem. Court, I agree with you…but 8,000 yards is too much…even with run up areas. I played a hole today that was 480 yards par 4 ( long for us ) but could land it 40 yards shot so it could be reached. This course, however, was an old Mckenzie design,…small greens and well bunkered. there were 360 yard holes that made it tough if you missed the small green. Making courses longer is not the only way to toughen up a course.
Boy, you gotta
get your facts straight….You may be alluding to the duffers, but that sure isn’t the case for the Pros…From all reports from the events playe, the holes that they measure for length, show a 6 yard increase in 2k10….jist saying….stub
Maybe they can borrow a page from NASCAR...
And call it the PGA Ball of Tomorrow.
If all of the balls are the same with no advantage then how are the PGA players gonna get their endorsement dollars from Titleist. If a band doesn’t provide a competitive advantage then players will play the ball with the best endorsement package instead. Nike could become the number one ball in golf.
And put 57 logos on it too?
Seriously, you do bring up a good point about NASCAR.
As a form of racing, NASCAR is horrible in my view because it is essentially managed competition where the sport is re-engineered so often that has become a shadow of its former self.
Yes, I know that F1 rolled back their car too, but the fact was that in the late 1980s F1 cars had become so powerful that they were mortal dangers to drive. When you lose two of the top drivers in your sport on consecutive days thanks to the car being unsafe at the speeds they were capable of, you have to roll the car back or plan on going to a lot of funerals.
Anway, NASCAR poses cars as being from a given manufacturer, when in fact, they are all but identical in their design and have perhaps one part (usually the roof) in common with the cars they are supposedly the race version of. If golf got to be that way, it might take a lot away from the sport, and I would hate to see that come to pass.
by Charles Boyer on Jul 30, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Those NASCAR drivers must like golf...
They keep talking about making a pit stop to get a “wedge.”
by sports medic on Jul 30, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
There are no real shot makers
right now, because technology killed that aspect…..Who was the leader….PING….they pushed the hell out of forgiveness…..than they started giving the top college programs all the clubs they wanted….And what do we have today…..bet your sweet bippy….forgiveness…..Ask Easy what he bought….easy (sorry) to hit and forgivness….Go and look in the touring pros bags…..see how many forged, classic blades are really out there….not too damm many…..Why do you suppose Tiger has been so good….Yup, he can shape his shots….granted, his putting is off right now, but he can still shape his shots….How about Cory….short hitter, but he can shape the shots….Are we going to see in our life time a one ball rule….hell no….too many dollars involved…STUB
USGA is only USA & Mexico Anyway
I know that the geography challenged American populace largely does not realize this because they think that the planet Earth extends from NY to LA, but the USGA doesn’t control the whole world insofar as golf does. It’s purview is only the US and Mexico. The larger — and more powerful — rule making body is the R&A.
Soooo, it would follow that if the R&A starts to roll back the ball and bifurcate a “tournament” ball from an “amateur” ball, the USGA may be compelled to follow.
If you really want changes in the golf ball, don’t bother yourself with Far Hills, NJ, instead, go to St. Andrews and talk to the good folks there.
The USGA and R&A agreed to a unified set of rules a while back thanks to the Callaway driver controversy. They agreed to make all their changes together.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
True, but that still means that the R&A is another possible path towards bifurcation.
by Charles Boyer on Jul 30, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
TX..I think they already are....
I saw a couple (good word here) just the other day, and I think they were playing…jist sayin mind ya…..STUB

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