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How Wimbledon Proves Sudden Death Is Unnecessary

Wimbledon scoffs at fifth or third set tiebreaks.  How could a match that has gone the distance be relegated to the equivalent of the NHL shootout to determine who moves on in a major championship?  Even the NHL scraps the shootout during the playoffs in favor of a more pure way of finishing the game.  In times when true history is on the line in sport, the winner should be revealed by playing the actual sport.

Last year's Roddick-Federer Wimbledon final allowed us to make the case for a return to match play at the PGA Championship. Read about it here.

Yesterday, Wimbledon's format stubbornness proved to be an epic, brilliant decision.  American John Isner and Frenchman Nicolas Mahut played a tremendous offensive match through four sets.  Service games for both were nearly automatic leading into the decisive set of the first round match, and that trend continued in the final set.  It continued for 118 completed games.  The match has lasted ten hours in total and resumes this afternoon to let these players figure out who wins.  They were not boxed into a miniaturized version of the game through a tiebreak.  The players were given the space to finish their match off just as it started.

Golf should do the same with its playoff formats in the major championships.

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Since the 1976 decision by the Masters to introduce a sudden death playoff format for its green jacket, the sport has been moving at a glacial pace (still fast for golf) toward shorter playoffs.  The British Open relented in the late nineties by moving to a four hole, aggregate score playoff.  Paul Lawrie won Jean Van de Velde's Open in '99 at Carnoustie in that playoff. 

The PGA of America, happy perhaps with that result - namely the merciful end of a Justin Leonard, Paul Lawrie, and Jean Van de Velde playoff - adopted a similar three hole, aggregate score playoff in time for the 2000 PGA Championship.  That very year at Valhalla, Tiger Woods battled Saturday morning Golf Channel wiz Bob May for Woods' third major in a row.  The memory of Tiger's walking in of the birdie on the first playoff hole aside, May had no chance to recover after that since the final hole, a par five, would give a sure advantage to Woods.

The US Open is the only stalwart and purist when it comes to the golf playoff.  The National Open is decided with an 18 hole playoff the next day.  Then, and only then, if there remains a tie do they relent to sudden death.  (At a certain point, repeating rounds of golf just gets ridiculous.)  Woods in the spotlight example again showed in '08 what the format can mean.  Millions of fans watched the playoff on television and the Internet.  Billions of dollars were lost in productivity to watch Rocco Mediate give one-legged Woods his best shot.  It went to a single extra hole before Mediate relented Woods' 14th major title. 

Or perhaps turn to the 1962 US Open playoff between Jack Nicklaus and Arnold Palmer.  How incredible would that have been to see live on television and online?  Nicklaus won his first major in that playoff.  Forty-seven years later, Nicklaus spoke last year about playoff formats in golf today.

"Do I think it's the best for the interests of the game today, for television, the people? No, probably not. I think the Masters has been very practical with that, the PGA Championship has been practical with that and the British Open has been practical with that.

"But the USGA has looked at it more as a golf tournament than a TV show. I think that as our national championship, that's fine. I wish the British Open would have stayed there, too, but they didn't."

The counter argument could be made that Larry Mize's stunning chip-in to steal the Masters from Greg Norman would have been rendered meaningless were it not for sudden death.  But the other Masters sudden death finales have not been duels of excellence.  They have been brief, often mildly upsetting affairs.  At the same time, the Mark Brooks-Retief Goosen playoff for the US Open was just dreadful from Southern Hills.

Brooks & Goosen, though, could have been an equally epic match all the same as Isner/Mahut has been.  Were the golf great throughout the day and had it come down to the wire or required extra holes, the Open would have been historic in the same way that Woods/Mediate became an instant classic.

Sure, television and media rule the day.  It's an ironic statement considering the state of the business, but it's true.  If people won't watch it, then why broadcast it.  Bravo should consider that when renewing any of the Real Housewives spinoffs, but I digress.  Golf has relented to ratings and momentum.  Other sports continue to show, though, that purity of format at the highest level really is worth the sacrifice in time and ratings.  It creates a real appreciation for the appetite to win that the athletes have and, frankly, makes for better television.

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The only drawback to this match ? Having to listen to McEnroe (Patrick), Hannah Storm, Brad Gilbert, and worst of all, Pam Shriver. They have nothing to add or say, but the babbling continues. Shriver has already been called an ass this week by James Blake because she refused to stop talking during points. Yesterday, Mahut received a conduct warning when he reacted to McEnroe’s scream when the US scored its goal and McEnroe screamed like the Hispanic TV announcer. (moron) Now the media, which didn’t care yesterday, is causing all kinds of problems with their movement and picture taking during the ball toss.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Jun 24, 2010 11:02 AM EDT reply actions  

not true – I have absolutely loved tuning in to Wimbledon Radio to hear their calls on center court and court 1.

American broadcasting just sucks…and what’s worse is that they don’t care.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Jun 24, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

The announcing crew has just been awful this week. Just let us enjoy the tennis and be quiet for a bit.

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by Ryan Ballengee on Jun 24, 2010 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

The constant use of nicknames is maddening, plus Shriver is now calling Isner “Johnny”. Hannah and her hissing sends shivers up my spine.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Jun 24, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow - what a match!

Congratulations John Isner; commiserations Nicolas Mahut!

by WendyUK on Jun 24, 2010 12:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I noticed yesterday one announcer said more than a few times that

 there’s been “absoluely no fist-pumping” during the entire match, yet another announcer, in the same booth, said “Mahut has been fist-pumping throughout the match.”

by TXQ on Jun 24, 2010 12:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Cue the UGA fight song !!

Isner showed up at Wimbledon in his Bulldogs t-shirt. He was ready !

Felt bad for Mahut, having to stay for all the post match things. He wanted off the court. I’m sure he’ll be proud and amazed in a few weeks when he’s had a chance to get over the disappointment.

Maybe Isner’s buying Mahut a beer later.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Jun 24, 2010 12:17 PM EDT reply actions  

There's an important difference between golf and tennis though...

Tennis has an open-ended aspect to it that golf doesn’t — namely, the requirement to break serves in order to win. Once you reach 6 games AND get the requisite serve breaks, the set ends. It doesn’t matter how long it takes (as in that epic 70-68 win for Isner) to get those breaks because, once you’ve won a minimum number of games (6 games), It’s the breaks that determine the winner. (No pun intended.)

But with golf, we don’t have a requirement for winning beyond length of play — play goes on until you reach a certain point, and the leader at that point wins. Without the time limitation, there’s no definitive winner. In this case, sudden death is no better or worse than 3 or 4 or 18 holes to determine a winner because it’s just a matter of who’s ahead after a minimum of 72 holes. Unless we want to change the winning conditions to include something beyond the score — or say you have to win by a certain number of strokes, like 2 or 5 — I think sudden death is as good as anything. If you didn’t get the job done in 72 holes, you shouldn’t gripe because you lost on the 73rd.

Mike Southern
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by Ruthless Mike on Jun 24, 2010 12:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Hang on a minute, Mike. Match play golf doesn’t require that play ends at the 18th. If the tournament requires a winner, you could conceivably see what we saw at Wimbledon if guys keep matching hole for hole until someone wins.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Jun 24, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

In stroke play, that’s true. Not so in match play, but I get your point. In that regard, golf is more like the four major sports’ championship playoff formats that I described. They don’t reduce the game down to a subset of skills.

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by Ryan Ballengee on Jun 24, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

It should be on its way in the next day or so.

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by Ryan Ballengee on Jun 24, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm glad you guys understood that I'm talking about stroke play...

Match play IS a different animal, but it just reinforces the point. No TV station wants to carry match play because (1) they can’t estimate the time and (2) they can’t guarantee a “great” final pairing.

One thing you’ll rarely see in tennis is a match that ends TOO quickly. You know that, in general, you’re looking at matches with 10-14 games per set. The 11-hour marathon we saw this week was a big deal simply because it doesn’t happen. Those two guys will be legends for the rest of their lives. (Especially the French player, after the French debacle at the World Cup. And the American then got the record for the shortest match in his next round… what a surprise!) Plus, the likelihood that Federer would be involved in such a bizarre match is minimal — but you’ll rarely have a final match with an unknown either. This is part of the tennis audience’s expectations.

In match play golf, you could get a 10 and 8 match, or you could get 45 holes… and either could end up with “no names” in the final round that won’t pull ratings.

Wimbleton will almost always guarantee ratings. Golf won’t. Ultimately, that’s why I think sudden death is a good idea… because otherwise, we won’t get to watch golf. Before this week’s record-breaker, the record tennis match length was 5-6 hours (I don’t remember which). We have trouble getting one group’s round done in that time! Network TV just isn’t ideal for golf broadcasting. Maybe things will change with streaming video on the net, but I bet that’ll be expensive (at least initially).

Mike Southern
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by Ruthless Mike on Jun 25, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

As correct as you are about TV and what they want – you didn’t specify stroke play. The question was if there was a golf equivalent of what happened at Wimbledon this week – and Match Play could potentially present a very long match.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Jun 25, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Disagree

What other sports, besides one major event in Tennis (Wimbledon), honor the purity of format? The NBA, NFL, MLB, NCAA football and hoops all have shortened period overtimes just like the Masters, the British Open and the PGA Championship. Do you know how boring it’d be to see 40 minutes put back on the clock each time a college basketball game or a 40-minute OT ended in a tie?

Granted, the Monday finish at the 2008 U.S. Open was OK, but that was only because Rocco beat the odds and made a comeback over the course of the last few holes. Had that not happened, the back nine could’ve been pretty boring to sit and watch.

In any case, at the end of those 18 holes, what did we get? A one-hole, winner-take-all playoff. “Purists” should have demanded that another 18 holes be played on Tuesday.

Playoffs are great for one simple reason. They determine the outcome of a long battle in a short, exciting span of time, and as long as that span of time isn’t so short that the contest can decided by one tiny miscue, it’s a fair format.

I will admit, I’m a little biased, as I still feel the 3-hole playoff in the 2000 PGA Championship is the most exciting sports event I’ve ever watched. And as far as Bob May having no chance to win after Tiger’s birdie on the first playoff hole, give me a break. The 3-hole format gave May plenty of opportunities to win. (Or did you not think so after Tiger duck-hooked his drive on the third playoff hole?)

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by jimdauer on Jun 24, 2010 1:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Don’t forget Davis Cup. They play out in the 5th set.

Wimbledon and Davis Cup have changed. They used to require that all sets be played out. Tie Breakers didn’t come to Wimbledon until the mid-late 70’s.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Jun 24, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

The US Open’s playoff format is a shortened version of the tournament. I mean, it’s 18 holes of playoff vs. 72 holes to get there. What I’m saying is that the four major sports and the collegiate game determine their champions by actually playing the game. They don’t reduce it to a skill or a niche version of the game.

I don’t like the idea of determining a champion with one hole, or three, or four. If you had to make me choose, I’d pick four. One hole, good or bad, shouldn’t ruin 72 great ones. It might be “exciting,” but so is doing so in three, four, or eighteen, or eighty. That word gets bandied around much too often. “Exciting” these days equates to “good for TV and people with only casual interest in the event.” Frankly, I don’t care to cater to the casual fan. They’ll just read ESPN.com later to find out who won.

May had no chance to win after the birdie. Watch the tape again and see the look on May’s face. It was over right then and there.

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by Ryan Ballengee on Jun 24, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

the four major sports ? Baseball plays on.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Jun 24, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hockey plays on during the playoffs, right ? I can understand not playing games out during the season. Some of those 2-3-4 OT games during the playoffs would kill teams if they had to do it for the whole season.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Jun 24, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

So Court, what your saying is "lets bring

in another element….STAMANA OR CONDITIONING Am I reading that right/ STUB

by thinker on Jun 24, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

to what game ?

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Jun 24, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

May had no chance when Tiger's drive hit the cart path on the 18th in regulation.

Honestly, his drive was dead and got a bounce on concrete. That shouldn’t happen on a major course. The 4 hole playoff is about right. Sudden death or 18 holes, it’s the same for both players.

by Easingwold on Jun 24, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

How would you propose that a golf course take a cart path out of play ? What if the ball hits a sprinkler head ? Or the wall of a burn ?

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Jun 24, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm. Tough question to answer, Easing.

And this one’s on a path-fail basis.

Good luck. I suggest saying your computer’s down, but you kinda need your computer to say that.

Hoping that helps,

TXQ

by TXQ on Jun 24, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

For a start,

make golfers walk. Cart paths ruin a golf course. I walk 10 miles a day at 52…get the slobs out of the carts.

by Easingwold on Jun 24, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

there are cart paths on courses over there, too. not used for golfers – but I saw a number of courses in Scotland with paved paths for the grounds keepers.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Jun 24, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

You might not feel that way 10 years

 from now, Easing, and certainly not after 20, and you won’t feel anything after 30.

by TXQ on Jun 24, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Easy.......Glad you can walk, but

where I live it’s not healthy. When I lived in Denver I walked all the time……..Saturday it was 104 with a heat index around 110+, I got sick warming up and was totally out of it all day. Today it was a “cool” 95 with an index of 101….I rode 18 holes and I am soaking wet……you walk here….you die.

The Saints ARE the SUPER BOWL CHAMPS....WHO DAT!

by em66 on Jun 24, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can understand that em

as you probably know, here in Britain, the climate is moderate, perfect for golf in my view. When it gets hot, I can’t stand it. Now I’d be tempted to play in the early hours down your way before it got too hot. I know that’s not always possible. When I see the PGA in August and see the pros sweating that way, I cringe. Fair point there mate.

by Easingwold on Jun 25, 2010 3:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

There’s a slight problem with that in some areas over here, Eas. This time of year, there ARE no cool hours in the early morning. We’re in the mid to upper 90’s here in Atlanta – and it doesn’t really cool off overnight. It’s nearly 80 when the sun comes up, no breeze, and thick morning humidity. Texas is worse.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Jun 25, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

You have me there..

when it’s humid here in the UK it’s bad enough…I’d hate to play golf in that.

by Easingwold on Jun 25, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

You learn to deal with it.

I have a tournament tomorrow and start at 8am……the humidity, coupled with the dew burning off, will make it awful…..not looking forward to it…….but it beats not playing.

The Saints ARE the SUPER BOWL CHAMPS....WHO DAT!

by em66 on Jun 25, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have to admit I would play

This winter i teed it off when it was -8 c…the wife thought I was mad.

by Easingwold on Jun 25, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

how is it that wives are right so often ?

then again, I’m sure you had an absolute ball playing in that weather.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Jun 25, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Beats sitting indoors

mid winter here there is just 6 hours daylight. I have to see some of it :)

by Easingwold on Jun 25, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Easy, EM didn't

give ya the whole story….Over here in the Colonies, people can take coolers with them, to keep them hydrated….OK…here is the good side….Most clubs have CART GIRLS….Long legged big boobed white smile girls who drive around the course in a libation dispensing cart….ya can get almost anything your thirst desires,,,just not the girl….These young ladies can get around the course about 4-5 times during your round…..see, that way ya can stay cool and calm….I have seen guys buy a 2 dollar can of beer, and tip a 20.00.. I know one who says that 300-400 is normal on a Saturday and Sunday….and heck, that’s just in tips…..I wonder if Wendy drove one of the carts over there, how much she could make? jist askin mind ya….Words to leave with ya….."don’t carry yur bag…if she’s that drunk and can’t walk, let her lay where she fell….or….I don’t often drink beer, but when I do….stay thirsty my friend……STUB

by thinker on Jun 26, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

The RandA moved to a 4 hole playoff in 1989 , where Calc beat Greg Norman and Wayne Grady at Troon .

by ChangFai on Jun 24, 2010 4:07 PM EDT reply actions  

You are right there.

I played St Mellion in Cornwall ( Jack designed it ) it was almost 100 yards between holes on mountains. So in that sense, one needs a cart. Just don’t play majors on it.

by Easingwold on Jun 24, 2010 6:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey Eas...

…any way you can petition to have the American broadcasters at Wimbledon expelled from the country and have your good British broadcasters take over ? :-)

By the way – who’s the Scot calling matches in the World Cup ? He’s terrific.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Jun 25, 2010 10:48 AM EDT reply actions  

lol

The Saints ARE the SUPER BOWL CHAMPS....WHO DAT!

by em66 on Jun 25, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m thinking that Scottish broadcaster wouldn’t be too happy with that comparison ! (lol)

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Jun 25, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

not the ones I met – very giving people

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Jun 25, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

McEnroe & Fleming

are both excellent & popular commentators for us at Wimbledon, so can we hang on to them at least, pls?

by WendyUK on Jun 25, 2010 11:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed Johnny Mac's a terrific announcer, but each and every time he praises some

player for his good sportsmanship, it’s Irony Day to the nth degree.

by TXQ on Jun 25, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Fantastic player in his day – but I would have DQ’d him countless times.

by WendyUK on Jun 25, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

You have Dairy Queen over there???

I would Burger Kinged him…….anyway, the Oreo Blizzard is my fave.

The Saints ARE the SUPER BOWL CHAMPS....WHO DAT!

by em66 on Jun 25, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

One of the few times Mac didn't dare scream or degrade a linesman was when

 Johnny sample, a former pro football player, was the linesman.

Mac was both a brat and a coward.

Yet an excellent announcer.

by TXQ on Jun 25, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

NICE !

Great commentators. Too bad Patrick didn’t get any of his brother’s talent on the court or off.

The only announcer I like better is Martina Navratilova. I think she does the call for Australian TV. Talk about spot on analysis.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Jun 25, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

sometimes they switch over to catch Martina calling a few points.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Jun 25, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does Isner's second round match...

…count as an argument in favor of sudden death or shorter playoffs ?

The guy walked on the court this morning with a neck injury and lost in an hour and 14 minutes, plus had to pull out of the doubles.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Jun 25, 2010 4:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Isner has his place in Wimbledon folklore

If ever he needs a wild card entry, he’ll get it – ditto Mahut.

by WendyUK on Jun 25, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that a dismissal ?

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Jun 25, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

just checking – I’m pretty sure that neither Isner nor Mahut are hoping for wild cards. Isner’s ranked 53rd in the world – so he’s going to be fine. Mahut was a qualifier. I’m sure he’ll be taken care of for quite a while.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Jun 25, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Folk-memory then

memory of an event that survives through many generations. Going out in the first round with his world ranking is hardly likely to do a lot for Mahut. I meant when wild cards are handed out at Wimbledon, it would be a great gesture for either or both of them to receive one if they didn’t qualify otherwise.

You’ve been a bit grumpy lately Court – heat getting to you?;o)

by WendyUK on Jun 26, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Isner, and the crowd, must've raised Mahut's level that day/those days.

I’m hoping Mahut realized how good he can be and stays at or near the level he just played.

It’s still hard to believe how many times he HAD to hold serve to keep that match going.

That match was almost as exciting as the players’ post-match conversations with the Queen.

by TXQ on Jun 26, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

(grrrr) neither one of them wants to be relegated to “folklore”

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Jun 25, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

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