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Hope you know that Apple has filed a lawsuit against HTC (and ultimately Google) for violating 20 different patents on Droid. They have a pretty solid case according to the initial legal analysis.

Apparently, Apple is going to seek bricking all Droids. They are said to be uninterested in a licensing agreement, thanks to Google executives’ misconduct while they were still a member of Apple’s Board of Directors.

Don’t know if it will come to that, but Google surely is in deep doo doo. Apple has said that they are not going to cede the smartphone market to Google the way that they frittered away an 85% market share in the PC business to IBM/Microsoft in the 1980’s.

I do so love a great soap opera in the computer world, especially when I have met one of the participants.

by Old Man Par on Mar 4, 2010 9:00 AM EST reply actions  

this could be almost as much fun as the golf ball patent wars. these guys all steal ideas from each other…I just can’t see this Droid phone taking a big bite out of the market. The thing feels as heavy as a toaster. AT&T and Apple are looking more at those big bank accounts Google has – not the technology.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Mar 4, 2010 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually Court, this time it’s personal. Steve Jobs feels like he was betrayed by Google because Eric Schmidt was privy to all of Apple’s high level marketing plans for their iPhone and touch tablets but never came clean with Apple that his own company was developing a competitive product.

That in mind, and with Apple having $40 Billion in cash reserves of their own, I don’t think it is about the money. I think it is about payback.

by Old Man Par on Mar 4, 2010 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

and the golf ball wars AREN’T personal ? :-)

Ever wonder if Steve Jobs has any long term friends ? First Gates leaves…now this. (lol)

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Mar 4, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

here we go again
they frittered away an 85% market share in the PC business to IBM/Microsoft in the 1980’s.

Apple was unwilling to license their operating system to other manufacturers (they eventually did, then revoked it, but I don’t remember the year.), that’s why PCs have 85% market share.

If Apple does the same thing with their smart phone OS, they’ll lose that battle too.

Placebos, of course, are things you have to swallow even though they contain nothing that actually helps you. It's like American health insurance in a pill. -BiPM

by dianemarie on Mar 4, 2010 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Apple was unwilling to license their operating system to other manufacturers (they eventually did, then revoked it, but I don’t remember the year.), that’s why PCs have 85% market share.

Hate to tell you this, but you didn’t have to run any one particular OS on an Apple II, which is the machine that had the high market share in the early 1980s. You could run CP/M (not manufactured by Apple) and ProDOS, among others.

Furthermore, there were clones of the Apple II that ran quite well. The Franklin computer comes to mind.

As for Apple’s smartphone OS, I don’t suppose you realize it is an adapted version of OS/X, which is the same OS/X that runs their desktop PC’s. OS/X is a MACH-based Unix variant and UNIX is a ubiquitous operating system used on everything from devices in which it is embedded (like the International Space Station) to web servers, supercomputers, desktops and lord knows what else. It is, by quite a long distance, the most successful OS ever created and recently celebrated its 42nd anniversary of existence.

Finally, you may want to study and understand the smartphone market – it is increasingly become filled with closed monolithic operating environments that a company controls top to bottom.

by Old Man Par on Mar 4, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, you certainly told me, didn't you?

I didn’t even begin to become computer literate until 1995. Today, I know what I use and not much more (vi scripting on a Unix mainframe, J-Script, HTML, php, Oracle and MySQL). I have no use for a smart phone. I acknowledge, without reservation, that your knowledge and experience in computer technology are light years beyond what I will ever have.

Having said that, I distinctly remember reading supposedly knowledgeable commentators discuss Apple’s failure to license their OS as the reason for MS’s dominance today. I was wrong about Apple licensing their OS, see Apple Computer, Inc. v. Franklin Computer Corp.. So, Franklin might have become a dominant player had Apple not (rightfully) sued their butts for daring to expand the product line. Jobs’ and Wozniak’s insistence on controlling access to the OS has been detrimental to the growth of the product. The fact that an Apple II could run UNIX-based OSs made no difference because computing for non-geeks like me didn’t become possible until relatively inexpensive Windows machines.

Today I’m the proud owner of a Mac running OS/X Leopard. It’s a great machine.

Placebos, of course, are things you have to swallow even though they contain nothing that actually helps you. It's like American health insurance in a pill. -BiPM

by dianemarie on Mar 4, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I Owe You An Apology

Diane,

Since I cannot write you directly, I will have to do this here. Please forgive me for my utterly condescending and snide tone in my posts. There’s no excuse for it.

Right now, I do have a lot of not-good things going on personally (family health issues) and I probably imprinted a lot of misdirected frustration into the direction of an online friend who certainly didn’t deserve that from me (or anyone.) Still, no excuses, I am a grown man and should know better.

So again, I am sorry for being an online ass.

Rgds,
Charles

by Old Man Par on Mar 5, 2010 8:37 AM EST up reply actions  

No offense taken, Charles

Niblic and em66 have chastised me for existing, so your post was very mild. I hope your family issues are resolved in the best way possible. Thank you for having the courage to write an apology.

Placebos, of course, are things you have to swallow even though they contain nothing that actually helps you. It's like American health insurance in a pill. -BiPM

by dianemarie on Mar 5, 2010 9:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Now, now....you know

you don’t really exist…..lol. You are kinda like that “placebo”…..you “contain nothing that actually helps me”, but I suppose you could say the same thing about me….lol

The Saints ARE the SUPER BOWL CHAMPS....WHO DAT!

by em66 on Mar 5, 2010 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re thinking about the Macintosh, which has never had anything in the double-digits for a market share. But you are correct in that Jobs refusal to license the Mac OS has hindered adoption.

by Old Man Par on Mar 4, 2010 5:16 PM EST reply actions  

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