Tiger Back at the Masters: What Do You Think?
by Ryan Ballengee on Mar 16, 2010 12:19 PM EDT
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In light of Tiger Woods' announcement of his return to the Masters, Waggle Room wants to know what you think of his return. Drop us a line in the comments section with your thoughts.
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No big surprise
I don’t think, at least not since statements/rumors made last week. I think it’s a good move. I’m very curious to see how he’ll play after no tune up. But he is Tiger Woods after all! I wonder what the Vegas betting lines will be on him! Also curious to see if Elin will be there at all, and if visible. My bet is no. But I also said he wouldn’t be back until AFTER The Masters, so what do I know?
He’ll take some extra time for the media on site during the first part of the week – and then will go about business as usual from Thursday on. You can bet that he will be locked in on winning, because a win puts most of this nonsense behind him and he can concentrate on golf and his family will go back to being what it should have been all along – personal, private business.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
If I were a PGA tour player
I’d pray I was not his partner in the first/second round. Ten virtual dollars that Mark O’Meara or some other longtime friend is partnered with him in the opening rounds.
I think the decision is odd. Why have this be the first tournament? You are putting a lot of extra pressure in an already pressure-packed situation. I don’t see how this move puts him in the best position to win the Masters. If you’re doing it because it’s the first place you’ll feel comfortable that the media scrutiny will be “controlled” you’ll either find it will either fail or you’re just delaying the inevitable to Harbour Town or wherever you go next.
Tiger wants to play golf - the media doesn't care about golf
Something to consider for this choice as his first tournament back.
SOMEplace had to be the first – and it’s best that it be in a place that won’t allow a media circus. He may have prefered it to be the Tavistock Cup…we don’t know…BUT, there is a rule in the PGA Tour rulebook that prohibits a player from doing “golf business” (tournaments, clinics, etc) in the same area during the same week as a PGA Tour event. The commissioner is allowed to grant a player a pass to do something like this, and like the rest of this mess, we don’t know if Tiger playing in the Tavistock Cup was brought up to Finchem, or if he refused to give Tiger a pass to play Tavistock in a controlled environment and skip Bay Hill where there is very little control.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
Tiger is no ordinary man
I believe Tiger’s retune to golf at Augusta will be the highlight of the year. It will be the most viewed sports spectacular, second only to the Winter Olympics games. The galleries at the Masters consist of some of the most knowledgeable spectators in golf. This alone will discourage most of the nut-bars and whacko’s out there who thinks Tiger owes them something. Now all he has to do is go out and shot 4 respectable rounds, I don’t expect him to win after such a long lay-off, but who knows,,, Tiger is no ordinary man.
Balabill
Don't Kid Yourself
In America, the sporting highlight of the year is the Super Bowl.
In England, the Premiere League is boss.
Worldwide, the World Cup will eclipse Tiger Woods before they ever reach the quarterfinals.
by Charles Boyer on Mar 16, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it's great.
And not just because I predicted it. :-)
From a media perspective I think it’s the best he could ask for.
And just in case he encounters a little too much rust, I’m glad for the rest of the field that he’ll be there so this Major won’t have an asterik by it with the “won without Tiger in the field” footnote at the bottom.
It sure is going to make Fantasy golf more fun!
I write about golf at www.tees2greens.com, too.
Well red..
you are under a severe storm warning….best stay inside….and by the way, your not allowed to use him in any of the Fantasy golf picks…we can, but you can’t…lol (j/k)…STUB
Asterisk ?
Thats rubbish. If he plays poorly, the “asterisk” people will only mention he was rusty. Tiger has not been able to compete. It is no different than Nedal injured in Tennis. Cabrera won’t give a damn Tiger was missing last year. From Tigers point of view, it makes sense. Even if he plays poorly, it’ll stand him in good stead for the other 3 majors this year. He knows he needs one a year to beat Jack and can’t waste any more time.
Of course there will be excuses no matter what the outcome…I just feel that some in the media would discount a Major win for someone else if TW isn’t in the field moreso than just having the rust factor. Just having TW there will increase the anxiety factor for the rest of the field.
I write about golf at www.tees2greens.com, too.
This shows what a control freak Woods' can be.
Clearly, no tournament is more controlled and secure than the Masters.This is Tiger not having the “cajones” to face the media in an open way. If he doesn’t win he has a built in excuse that he wasn’t Major tournament ready, and will “milk it” for what it’s worth. If he does win (unlikely) the media will "milk it for what it’s worth. Hey,…nobody ever said Woods’ was a dummy ! He has put Augusta squarely on the spot to “protect his privacey” because of what The Masters tournament is. Woods is in control, and at his arrogant best (worse). This is a very calculated move by Team Woods’ and shows a lack of respect to an event that many view as the “holy grail” of golf in America. The players will no doubt be leery of the potential circus which is to Woods benefit. Clever,very clever. I’m glad he’s back playin’, but he should have played Bay Hill first and dealt with the distractions, instead of drawing upon the Masters to protect his butt. A little too transparent and unsavory in my view…………………………………Z.
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is there a stronger word for cynic than…cynic ? (lol)
3 – Finchem and crew have been on this for weeks now, staying in touch with tournaments and what needs to be covered in the event of a Woods comeback on a particular week. The folks at Augusta National are aware of what’s coming.
Anything that keeps leaches like TMZ and The Enquirer outside the gates is fine by me.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
I agree
Keep’n the sleaze rags out of golf is a good thing. However Woods is still ducking any potential questions about all this, just as he did with his “love-in” at Sawgrass. In this case he is using the ultra hard line Augusta policies to accomplish what his “no questions” edict did at Sawgrass. The dude is too “chicken-sh!t” to man up to the main stream media and just keeps manipulating the situation hoping it will go away . It won’t. !!! If he wins a 100 majors, the cloud over his head will remain until he deals with this. Hs is still an arrogant s.o.b. as a result. imo……………………….Z.
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now we’re back to the same old question – why is it any of your business ?
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Public Figure I'm guessing court
Everone else that was a sports related public figure fessed up eventually from Pete Rose to Wilt Chamberlain. SOME of the general public wants to know and perhaps that have a valid pointing for wanting to know. Did you ever see anyone drive past a car accident without slowing down to rubber neck ?
"pain is only weakness leaving the body"
Hey 3irns,
we must have taken our think alike pills this morning…I wouldn’t change a word of what you said…I might have added more choice phrases as regards the scumbag…I still wonder, how long does it take to get drugs out of the system in detox…reason being, I still think pain killer addiction and sleeping pills all from the leg rehab…I wonder if anyone can get the number of weeks other celebs have gone through it…might prove rather interesting…..STUB
What questions does he need to answer 3irons?
He’s admitted to the affairs. He’s given a complete and sincere apology to everyone hurt by this. He’s denied the domestic abuse allegations. He’s denied the allegations about PED’s. Do we need to know anything more about this? He’s stated that the rest is between him and Elin and guess what, he’s 100% correct. Do you have to hear the dirty details? What is it that you feel you have any right to know? I hope he doesn’t give any of the questions anything more than a “no comment” or “next question”. We’ve heard enough, and it’s time to move on people. What’s important to the golf world and to me, is that he’s back so why don’t we get to the golf. Let’s talk about how he’ll play? Will he be rusty? Mentally ready? Can he contend? Anything but this crap. I look forward to seeing him on the course, as do millions of other fans.
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Charles A. Dana
T-POT ,...you miss the point
I don’t care who he slept with, what they did or where they did it. !!! But he has embarassed the game ,sponsors,fans and his fellow players. He needs to man up and answer any and all questions regarding this. Personal questions are one of our business, and those are off limits. But he has done nor said anything to repair the “sleaze” factor he has thrust upon professional golf. He just keeps ducking it like Pete Rose did. Eventuually Rose dropped his arrogant posturing and came clean. Woods need to clear this up and start clean. Why hasn’t he ? I believe he’s still lying about a lot of things. Security tapes missing, blood tests unavailable and the phony Doctor from Canada. ! ALL OF IT has a pungent odor that will not go away. He’s hiding things , like why was he admitted as an overdose Thankgiving night. Sex addiction ??? puuuhleeeze ! He has/had a presription addiction and is lying about it. The GAME has a right to know these things. Doug Baron was SUSPENDED for less. Doug Baron has a right to know about this ! The whole thing is upside down, with Tiger manipulating everything about it. ENOUGH ALREADY ! Only Woods can make it right, but he’s hiding out. So much for his mental toughness,…he’s a freakin wuss !……………..Z.
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no such thing as a "right to know"
Just what does “manning up” and answering every meaningless question a pea breained tabloid “reporter” can think of do for….well…anybody ?
“The game” has a “right to know” ? Be serious. What “the game” needs is for Tiger to get his act together, grow up, and start living his life by the same standards he plays the game.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
The game's integrity is in question,...
due Woods’ actions,…and I’m not talking about his “sex addiction”(sic). There’s a lot of things he need to make crystal clear. These are not meaningless topics or Woods would not keep avoiding them. He’s hiding out, that should tell you something. That tells me he’s afraid the truth will come out. I like to know why, and so does the Game. He owes Golf everything he has, and now he needs to man up and set the record straight. Rose did, MacGwire did,…why not Woods ? It’ll come out one day regardless, better it comes from him first……………….Z.
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Really ? The game’s integrity is in question ? Come on. Tiger cheating on his wife has yet to cause him to break a rule on the golf course. Don’t start with the swearing and club tossing/slinging – those are behavior rules for the PGA Tour and he isn’t the only one who gets fined for either.
I don’t care that he’s hiding out…how is that any different than how he lived his life before all this happened ? When did you ever hear about him out in public ? I can answer that for you – aside from golf and corporate outings and the occassional TV appearance – NEVER. Not even when he was out ho’ing.
And no matter how you try to spin it – YOU wouldn’t want the details of your dirty laundry on the front pages of every newspaper either.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
Court,...listen "closely" dude !!!!
I do not care who El-Dick slept with, what they did nor where they did it !!! ARE WE CLEAR ON THIS POINT ! I don’t give a damn,…PERIOD. I want to know why he was admitted as an “OVERDOSE” Thanksgiving night ! I want to know why his medical reports and blood work were surpressed from the FSP ! I want to know why nobdy is investiagting his relationship with an illegal Canadian doctor ! I want to know why Doug Baron is suspended for treating his medical condition and there is no investigation regarding Woods ! These issues have been swept aside and people/media are focussing on SEX ADDICTION !!!! C’mon, dude…..SEX ADDICTION ? The answers to these questions are owed the game and it’s integrity. If one player is suspended and a SUPER-STAR gets a “free” pass, then what does that say about golf’s integrity ? Are ya gettin’ this brother ?….cause it is THE topic of discussion around these parts. Woods is getting preferential treatment and Tour players,( from all levels), in these parts, are more than a little pissed . Maybe look up the word “integrity” ! Nobody cares that Woods is a sexual deviate,…..NOBODY. But some, myself included, want some answers regards these other matters, and Woods is ducking the media because he’s afraid . When he does speak, such as Sawgrass,.he’s flat out lying ! Everybody but the Tigernation fanatics want the air cleared. Until it is, Woods will continue to laugh at the games stewards and refuses to man up. An arrogant pr!ck, just as he has always been. imo……………………….Z.
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PRESCRIPTION medications – not PED’S. The guy had pain medication – not steroids, and you don’t OD on HGH. It’s not something you take to get a buzz. You’re way off here.
And no – you are not owed any answers.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
Ok Court,...
Tell me then,…What was is that he “overdosed” on as reported by the 911 medical team ? What were the results of his tests ?…..Z
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Well
maybe “the game” can come to his press conference and ask some questions…lol. By the way, what do personal addictions (if there are any) and a resulting car accident have to do with golf? Or his affairs for that matter? You want dirty details so you can relish in his failures for some reason. We’ve already got about all we’re gonna get, it’s not any of our business and it’s time to move on. Now, can we please talk some golf???
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Charles A. Dana
T-POT
I have no interest in dirty details. But there are a lot of questions about his drug use and medical procedures that have been swept under the carpet. The Tour suspended Doug Baron so in all fairness Woods needs his medical file opened . You know exactly what I’m taliking about. The Tour needs to be consistent. If Woods’ is dirty, and I think he is, then the Tour needs to deal with that too.Equal application for all players…………….Z.
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Seems to me
You’re trying to make something more of this than there is. First there are HIPPA laws that protect his and everyone’s medical privacy. Second, Tiger passed all of his random drug tests, Doug Baron did not. Third, it doesn’t matter what you “think”, you need evidence to make allegations like that. As far as I or anybody else can tell, Wood’s is in compliance with the Tour’s doping policy. Now if you have some evidence, some real evidence that TW was using PED’s then I’m all ears. But until then, let’s move on and stop harping on things that are at best, highly speculative. And FYI, that’s not what the media is interested in speaking to Tiger about.
Fight for your opinions, but do not believe that they contain the whole truth, or the only truth.
Charles A. Dana
T-POT
The evidence exists. He was admitted as an overdose, but nothing further was released. That may seem trivial to you, but it certainly set alarm bells off around here. Then there is the Canadian Doctor and his treatment of Woods. More alarm bells, but no open investigation. The Tour was open about Baron, but completely silent about Woods. I’d call that a supression of the facts, and a slap in the face of Doug Baron. Those are questions that deserve a FULL accounting . Woods will not take questions about either. What’s he hiding !!! That’s why I suspect he’s dirty,….if he makes those records available they could expose a slew of issues. He cannot risk any of that getting out, and that coud be why his blood work from Thanksgiving was surpressed. He was admitted as an overdose, but FSP were denied the opportunity to investigate. It reeks of a cover up. Maybe you don’t want to know, and I can understand that. As a member of the professional community, I certainly want to know,… as do we all. He has created a huge cloud over our game, and it needs to be cleared up,…one way or another. Until Woods opens up, then he’s just “covering up”. That’s why he has all the “hired guns” to suppress the evidence. You simply aren’t interested in asking the tough questions, but many of us are. …………..Z.
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Sounds like
what you want is a witch hunt and you won’t be happy until he’s burned at the stake. Whatever did or didn’t happen, Tiger has legal rights and there’s such a thing as due process. Why don’t I hear you screaming for Phil’s head, or VJ, Duval, Westwood and all of the other players that you “think” have used PED’s? Why don’t you scream for them to come clean? I believe what’s bugging you is this story is now turning back to what Tiger does best and you’d rather see this tabloid, sleezy, witch hunt continue.
Fight for your opinions, but do not believe that they contain the whole truth, or the only truth.
Charles A. Dana
Phil,VJ,Duval,nor Westwood ,.....
none of these gentleman were rushed to hospital as an "OVERDOSE’! None were treated by an illegal Canadian doctor and none have had their medical records supressed from authorities ! To you that is a “witch hunt” ??? Obviously you don’t want to really know the answers to these legitimate questions as they could prove embarassing to Woods. After all, hasn’t the poor boy been through enough ? "When you lay with snakes, you should expect to be biten " Woods is not being held accountable and Doug Baron was sacrificed. You cannot tell me that players should just accept that. Well, given your idoliztion of Woods,…maybe YOU could. Others around here would like some answers. I’m not holding my breath that your “golden boy” is ever brought to task over any of it. I’m glad he;s back playin’, cause that is good for the game. But I’ll never give him a free pass based on his athletic ability. Too much of that happens in other sports.imo……………………………….Z.
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3i's
So then any time a PGA tour player gets involved in an accident or has a medical procedure done, the tour, the media, and anybody who wants to should ignore HIPPA laws and demand to see the medical records. Where do you draw the line? Do you not believe in the Bill of Rights?? Perhaps you should try living in a country where the citizens don’t enjoy the freedoms and rights we have in America. Nothing was suppressed from the FHP, they chose (by themselves) not to go after the records because (and listen closely), THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH EVIDENCE to pursue the case any further. You see that’s a concept you should familiarize yourself with, you need evidence to make serious allegations like this. Everything Tiger has done since that night, while it hasn’t been the best from a PR perspective has been perfectly within his legal rights so if he chooses not to tell us any more then you’ll just have to get over it. And again, the tour has a random drug testing policy and Tiger has passed it. If he used PED’s, then somebody would know and sooner or later it would come out, so stop trying to make something out of this; it’s time to stop whining and move on. Let it go dude. And seriously 3i’s, do you expect me to believe you don’t have a personal vendetta towards Woods?? Perhaps some that don’t know you as well will buy that but I’ve been interacting with you for about 3 years; trust me you have one whether you realize it or not. Maybe you’re worried that one of your biggest fears is about to materialize? Think about it, what if TW comes back a changed and improved man who behaves respectfully and appropriately and can still golf his ball? Then what will you complain about…lol, I’m sure you’d find something.
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Charles A. Dana
All very nice T-POT
but you go tell Doug Baron about HIPPA laws and The Bill of Rights ! I never heard a peep out of you on this when he was suspended. Now you think because it’s your idol under a microscope, that all of a sudden he’s untouchable ? Typical. Woods is under a cloud of suspicion and all you can do is try and deflect that what applies to ALL Tour players, does not apply to him ! There’s a word for that dude, and you know it well !
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What is it
about, one player failing the random drug screen and one player passing that you don’t seem to understand? How does that apply to an accident that occurred on Tiger’s own private time? The Doug Baron issue has NOTHING, I repeat NOTHING to do with this. Move on 3i’s, you’ve got nothing.
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Charles A. Dana
T-POT
Obviously you can’t see anybody except El-Dick. FYI,…Doug Baron’s case was a set up ! It wasn’t a random test at all. The Tour wanted to send a message to the IOC, that they were on top of PED’s in golf, and Baron was the fall guy. That is a fact. They went after Baron.You can’t explain all the mysterious behavior by Woods so you don’t want to hear about it. We know what that makes you, and that is your right. But yoiu sound pretty ignorant some times,and this is one of those times.
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Ignorant?
Whether it was a set up or not has again nothing to do with Tiger’s situation. You’re reaching for straws and throwing out anything you can, but the fact remains that is at best an extremely weak argument. Repeat after me, Tiger passed his drug screens multiple times, Baron didn’t. Enough said.
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Charles A. Dana
T-pot
What were the test results of his overdose on Thanksgiving ? What was present in his blood and at what levels ?…………Z
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Ok
I’ll take one more pass at this. The tour’s drug testing policy is a separate thing from the FHP’s investigation. One has absolutely nothing to do with the other and both organizations having nothing whatsoever to do with each other. Not sure why you want to compare Barons drug test (by the tour) to Tiger’s traffic accident investigation (conducted by the FHP)? Now with that said, let’s move on the investigation of Tiger’s accident. First the FHP (on their own and with no outside influence of the tour) made the decision there was not enough evidence to subpoena the medical records. And secondly if they had, they would have been looking for things like blood alcohol levels and would not have been looking for or testing for PED’s. Now perhaps they would have found the TW was under the influence of something, but they didn’t and the investigation is OVER. It’s a done deal, so move on! Perhaps TW has a chemical addiction, I don’t know and IT’S NONE OF MY BUSINESS to know about it. His personal problems are his and his family’s and have nothing AT ALL to do with golf or the PGA Tour. Funny how I don’t hear you harping on Daly’s chemical issues. Enough already 3i’s, enough.
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Charles A. Dana
None of your business.....
You must own the copyright on that phrase. Seems to be your # 1 cop out for giving El-Dick a pass…………..Z.
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Is that what you call an argument?
Typical from you though when backed into a corner, bow up and through insults,,, classy.
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Charles A. Dana
It's not an insult if it's true.
You know damn well, that if I was gonna insult anybody, I’d be a whole lot more offensive ! I cut you some slack, because you are not the typical low IQ fringe fan. Quite the contrary. However, when I think you are being obtuse, I never sugar coat it. Movin’ on……………………..Z.
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Fair enough
moving on. For what it’s worth, I do agree TW’s not going to fare well at the Masters. It is however important he get back to playing and I think this is the best spot so they can limit the impact to the event itself. He’ll be back in full form for the US Open and #15.
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Charles A. Dana
t-pot
I agree. He’s not likely to win, but NEVER count him out completely . The bookies certainly haven’t, only offering up 4-1. I’d say he’s more like 7-1, but nobody is quoting that action. Still mulling over my picks. Adios,………….Z.
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I think you know me well enough
that of course I NEVER count him out. 2008 US Open showed us that. But I don’t like his chances. In my estimation when he steps to the first tee, it will be the most nervous and uncomfortable he’s ever been on a golf course. It’ll be tough for him and most likely it’ll take him a few events to get used to it.
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Charles A. Dana
As a member
of the same professional community, I can tell you that “we all” do not need or want to know any more than we already know, or more to the point, think we know. The majority of the professionals that I know, just want it over with and the sooner the better.
He broke the laws of marriage, not the laws of your country. He has been tested for drug use and passed those tests, end of story. He made a public statement admitting his infidelities and acknowledging that this behavior both on and off the golf course has not been what it should have been. He has stated that he will work to change those failings. If he doesn’t, then he will rightfully incur the wrath of all who love and respect the game.
Until it is proven that he has taken PED’s, then it is pure speculation, like most of this whole sordid tale. If one has to hang their argument for an obvious bias against a someone on supposition and speculation, then you are grasping at straws. More likely, raking the coals of a fire you would like to see fanned again for your own gratification.
Play it as it lies
he admitted an overdose ? now you’re making it sound like he was grinding up his PRESCRIPTION MEDICATIONS, putting them in a pipe and smoking, snorting, or injecting them. There have been no accusations of Tiger using banned substances in competition.
You bring up Barron – he didn’t have any problems until he took an injection of banned substances THE WEEK OF A PGA TOUR EVENT !!! He just happened to get pulled for testing and got caught.
Apples and oranges.
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Court
before you get jumped on, I believe that 3irons was saying that he was admitted to hospital as an overdose. His words, not mine by the way.
Play it as it lies
you are exactly right – but there are different levels of overdoses. I “overdose” on Nyquil if I put too much in the cup and my ears start ringing.
you’re right, too – I’m assuming that 3’s vitriol against Tiger would have him believing that Tiger was on the edge of dying from an overdose.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
Court
He was rushed to hospital as an OVERDOSE ! Do overdose victims sometimes die ,…..??? The medical personel on sight viewed it serious enough to call it in. Then the FSP are stonewalled.,….Are you telling me you do not want to know what he was hiding ? That’s un freakin believable Court ! UN-FREAKIN-BELIEVABLE !!! I have no vendetta against Woods, but I certainly would like to see some openess regarding these issues. The Tour was open regarding Doug Barons problems. We all know he has a heart condition and the testosterone level of an 85 year old man. We don’t know squat as to why Woods was using what he was prescribed. I think it’s only fair for Baron and future cases, that the detail surrounding Woods be made public. If he was using Ambien and it got out of control, then clear the matter up. Ambien isn’t a PED. The silence makes it appear that he’s hiding something else. Why ? Let’s be consistent and fair. Thats called “integrity”. imo……………………….Z.
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honestly ? no – I don’t care what he was “hiding”. if he was arguing with the wife and mixed alcohol and pain pills – that’s his problem – when he took it out on the street, it became a public safety problem – STILL none of my business past the point of the dangers of driving under the influence.
how about you ? ever had a few drinks and drove home ? should we start digging into your “drug problem” ?
there are more important things in this world than Tiger Woods’ marital problems.
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Court
Nobody gives a damn about his marital problems.I am not interested in who or what El-Dick is bangin’ That is just a smoke screen to deflect inquiries about his drug useage . Why no results after Thanksgiving ?.What about his Canadian doctor ?…………………Z.
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Why is it
that someone who claims to hold the game and professional tour in such high regard, would like to see it brought down even further by unfounded allegations of drug use? It sounds more like a personal vendetta to me.
Play it as it lies
As far
as Augusta being his first start back and the reasoning behind that – I wonder if it may be a case of personal safety as much as protection from the tabloid press. There are some very sick and twisted souls out there and Augusta may well be the safest place for his return. Not a pleasant thought, but one that has crossed more than a few minds, I’m sure.
Play it as it lies
chips...If you think it was "random".....
then I have some desert I’d like to sell you !
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chips...
there can’t be a drug test if evidence is supressed. Woods was adsmitted on Thanksgiving as an overdose but no med. results were ever seen. HE OVERDOSED AND NOTHING WAS RELEASED !!! Ya wanna tell me why ! I’ll give you a clue,….Ponte Vedra………………………Z.
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3 irons
I was referring to PGA testing. Doug Baron was tested by the PGA and failed. Tiger twice by the PGA and passed. My statement is one of fact, not supposition or innuendo. It’s really not that difficult to understand.
Play it as it lies
chips,....
Where are the results from Woods overdose at Thanksgiving ? Those results would show ALL substances in his system. Where is the report ? He hasn’t been PGA tested since before Thanksgiving, and his rehab(sic) has conveniently excluded him since. If this situation happened to anybody else ,other than Tiger Woods, FSP would have been allowed to do their work. Instead, they were blocked by the FLA DA’s office. Who do you think called in the favor?………..Z
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What happened at Thanksgiving had nothing to do with the Tour. It was a car accident and I repeat, nothing do with The Tour, or you and I for that matter. The Tour has no right or need to see those results and nor have they asked.
You have always had a thing for Tiger. The sex stuff has got old, so now you’re off on the drug angle. He’s been tested twice. How many other players have been tested twice? How many players have not been tested at all? While you’re at it, the Canadian doctor is not an “illegal” doctor. He is a doctor who has been charged with an illegal act. Big difference 3 irons, but hey, don’t let the facts get in the way of the rhetoric and the posturing.
Play it as it lies
Chips,....correct you are
an illegal act. Funny, I’d have thought Tiger would have been able to find a qualifed US doctor for the legal “blood spinning” technique. Perhaps there was more going on and that’s why he brought in the Canadian ? It’s never been explained to my satisfaction, but so be it…………………….Z.
you're still away,...choke on it !
I am an illegal act?
Was that a typo or if not, then would you care to explain that?
Play it as it lies
chips,....sorry dude
my baaad. ! Meant to say “you are correct about this Canadian dr. being involved with illegal activity.” No offense intended pardner……………Z.
you're still away,...choke on it !
let's see, uh....
Aside from the fact I called this months ago, I’m just glad the Kraft Nabisco Championship is the week before the Masters. And I’m glad he announced it now and not later. Better to upstage the Futures Tour, LET, and the JLPGA than the LPGA. More than his return already has/will, that is.
But I am glad he’s playing again.
by The Constructivist on Mar 16, 2010 2:17 PM EDT reply actions
As I said before
If he plays well and finishes top-5, The media will says, He’s back with a vengence !!!! If he doesn’t fair to well, the media will say, well he’s just rusty from not playing and has a lot on his mind. Trust me gang, the journanlist have already begun writing the story lines and articles prior to a ball even being tee’d up at the Masters. Win or lose all they have to do is fill in the blanks. I don’t even dare go over to TGC site, if you do you better wear a wet suit cause you will probably get drool all over ya from all the fawning I imagine thats going on. LOL One thing I found interesting on ESPN today is that they mentioned that tiger attracts about 90 % casual fans.
"pain is only weakness leaving the body"
Thanks a pantload, Curtis...
…just heard a clip from Curtis Strange during halftime of the NIT game. He went on and on and on about how rusty Tiger will be and how distracted he will be and how little chance he has to win or even make a stellar showing at this year’s Masters.
I’m thinking that the rest of the field wishes Curtis would have kept his big fat mouth shut. He could be right – but the LAST thing the other guys want is to wake up the sleeping giant. Strange may not be playing anymore, but that doesn’t mean Tiger won’t be ready to prove just how wrong he is.
The Stephen Ames lesson needs to be learned – even by old guys like Curtis Strange.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
Like I said
The story lines have already been scripted by the journalistic media. Its way to obvious especially at TGC. I used to own a dog named rusty when I was a kid.
"pain is only weakness leaving the body"
Well Ryan, since you asked.....
I think coming back this soon makes it hard for me to believe his “apology event” was sincere. And since he has confessed to being a scumbag, I will continue to think he is a scumbag until he proves different. Skipping the Masters and the US Open would have gone a long way to convincing me he is a “changed” man and will be putting family first, but it looks like it is still Golf first. We’ll see.
The Saints ARE the SUPER BOWL CHAMPS....WHO DAT!
em66
How do you know he’s not playing with Elin’s blessing? Why can’t he play some golf and work on his marriage at the same time? Playing golf is Tiger’s job and people still go to work despite going through personal issues such as this. But whatever, I propose we start a more interesting discussion pertaining to his golf. How will he play? Can he win? Should he have played a “tune up” event? Will he miss the cut? Anything golf related……
Fight for your opinions, but do not believe that they contain the whole truth, or the only truth.
Charles A. Dana
...ESPN today is that they mentioned that
tiger attracts about 90 % casual fans. ???
insert link here ___________________ please
I'll keep an eye out for you...at www.oneeyedgolfer.blogspot.com
by One-Eyed Golfer Guy on Mar 17, 2010 5:50 AM EDT reply actions
No link sorry bub
It was repeated several times “Verbally” on ESPN TV. More defined, the “NOON TIME” sports update and then again at 6:00pm. on “ESPN SPORTS CENTER”
"pain is only weakness leaving the body"
Should I tell the couple dozen guys at
my club that play and post scores for over 100 rounds per year they are merely ‘casual’ fans when they watch golf on TV in our tap room?
Seeing a tournament in person is special. Nothing like it. But, only a small fraction of fans actually get to see the action live. The overwhelming majority of golf fans are TV golf fans. 90% casual sounds a little high to me…
I'll keep an eye out for you...at www.oneeyedgolfer.blogspot.com
by One-Eyed Golfer Guy on Mar 17, 2010 6:16 AM EDT reply actions
Casual means
The people that only tune in on the weekends to watch when Tiger is playing. Regular Golf Fans do not need tiger in the field to watch. Pre-TW the media never complained about TV GOLF ratings and the players never complained about their salaries. There are Golf Fans and there are Tiger Fans. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Personally I don’t have a problem with ANY of the GREAT players on tour, it’s the media shoving Tiger down our throats every chance they get, especially on the Golf Channel. Go over to TGC website today and you will see what I mean. I have never found it fair to any player on tour that during a broadcast that TW is playing at they show every one of his shots and walking and drinking water even when he is 10 shots back on Sunday. If not for ALL the players on tour, we wouldn’t have a tour at all. The networks are suppose to be broadcasting a SPORT as a whole and not broadcasting one player 60% of the time. Many people would be very surprised as to what gets said by players regarding this issue OFF CAMERA. What you see them say on TV and ON CAMERA is a lot different in a lot of cases , not all.
"pain is only weakness leaving the body"
JJ,...
you are correct about the players “OFF CAMERA”. I can tell ya first hand, that there are many who take issue with the networks and how they cover golf. We have a lot of Tour players here at WR ,and I hear about this regularly. In particular, (without naming names) Members of the Commonwealth nations are very opinionated. Now I know I’ll get needled by them, but if you watch interviews with these fella’s, they really don’t bow down to Woods when asked leading questions. American players sure do. I must exempt Furyk from that list. He talks straight to the media, and I respect that. Anyway,..I thought your comments very accurate……………………………….Z.
you're still away,...choke on it !
Scoreboard ???
I certainly lost that pool. I had picked Doral…………………………Z.
you're still away,...choke on it !
I think I had the Masters, with a "warm up" at Bay Hill.....does that count....LOL
The Saints ARE the SUPER BOWL CHAMPS....WHO DAT!
Nope!
Em – Are you sure it wasn’t you who voluntered to keep tally? If not, come on someone – ’fess up!
I thought Ryan was gonna keep up with the picks??????
The Saints ARE the SUPER BOWL CHAMPS....WHO DAT!
Pingforever called it
he said the Masters some time back. Me, I was way off, I thought December, lol
It is Ryan, but
you have to wait to see where Tiger finishes; that’s the tie breaker.
Fight for your opinions, but do not believe that they contain the whole truth, or the only truth.
Charles A. Dana
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