The Euro Tour Has Been Talking Tiger at Tavistock for Weeks
by Ryan Ballengee on Feb 9, 2010 12:24 PM EST
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PrintTMZ reported over the weekend - and everyone then re-reported as though it were gospel (which it may be) - that Tiger would make his pro golf return at the Tavistock Cup. The match is between the Isleworth and Lake Nona clubs over two days, right around the time of Arnie's event. It's a hit-and-giggle with limited tickets and press coverage.
TMZ cites "someone who works for the Woods family" as their source. The problem is that the rumor has been swirling in European Tour locker rooms for several weeks now, as far back as the Qatar Masters. Brian Keogh of the Irish Golf Desk mentioned that on this site.
So, the rumor of Woods return is a little longer in the tooth than TMZ might like for you to believe. Again, take it for what you will, but I find it funny how there is a big assumption when any site claims to know Tiger's next appearance that it is certain.
But, the rationale for the rumor isn't bad. Tavistock is a small, private event. There are very few spectators and few people even know about the event. It could be a payback to the community that was invaded by papparazzi after his accident (though they would come back in droves were he to play). Still, the Orlando Sentinel's assumption that this would make sense because of media restrictions does not make sense. The PGA Tour has just as much say over who gets in the door as any other outlet. They are more open than the Masters is, but that's not to say they would not blink at declining credential requests from celeb sites.
As for the rumor that Woods will return at the Accenture Match Play, he has until Friday to tell the world.
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Then CLEARLY TMZ and the Euro Tour have been reading here at WR – I called “Tavistock Cup” early last week ! :-)
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
You knew my secret motive for making this post :)
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by Ryan Ballengee on Feb 9, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
Ya gotta get up pretty early in the
week to beat Court. Okay, Court, should I buy Citibank?
You certainly did
It definitely fits the bill of dipping a toe back in the game before getting down to business again.
by Double Eagle on Feb 9, 2010 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
Ryan,
I think CG was stuck inside due to the cold, etc, and what he ment to say was “coffee cup”…STUB
sure does make sense and then Tiger could play the Bayhill Classic from home later that week….then Elin & kids accompany Tiger at Augusta
Yeah, that’s why I said that in the post. I don’t get that rationale at all.
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by Ryan Ballengee on Feb 9, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
It will be a zoo nonpareil where ever Tiger comes back onto the golf course. So much so it will make the crowds on Bourbon Street tonight look like they are having a tea party.
by Charles Boyer on Feb 9, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
Don't suppose you guys would buy....
…..the Woods’ will be hosting an open house for media members as play goes past their house…….
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
well
I’m scheduled to be at the Tavistock Cup this year. I’ll let you know if Tiger shows up. My somewhat reliable sources tell me that he has yet to appear on the players roster.
"pain is only weakness leaving the body"
LOLOL
court, I was thinking more on the lines of wearing white “Sansabelts” and one of those TW Purple Fedoras. Then again I might be mistaken for Lerner. LOL I’m there for PR reasons court ,it’s part of what we do.
"pain is only weakness leaving the body"
WGC Match Play ???
Let’s see,… Accenture was one of the first to “dump” Woods as it’s spokesman, but some feel this will be his first event back ? Can’t see it happening. Woods has way too much of a " grudge" personality, as guys like Watson,Miller and Feinstein will find out. That’s just the way Woods is. He has this huge chip on his shoulder, and don’t anyone dare try to knock it off. Terrible attitude in my view, but it is , what it is. Feinstein was 100% on the money when he said “What Watson said publicly, many others had said privately”. He wasn’t ever gonna win Mr. Congeniality anyway. lmao …………..Z.
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3IRONS mention of John Feinstein piqued my interest so I googled him and found this article that I think 3IRONS is referring to…
http://www.feinsteinonthebrink.com/index.php?id=7209919632538831829
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You are right there, 3 irons
I remember Faldo commentating on Tigers swing, saying it had a fault in it. Tiger went into sulk mode untill they played together at Hoylake in the Open, when Faldo broke the ice. I guess Woods has had his own way for so long, he can’t handle people dissagreeing with him.
Easing....
I believe some of his dad’s “training” for him was to destroy all who stand against you. Tiger was intimidating these guys as a 21 year old. His mentality has always been destroy the other competitors. And if you dared to speak out, or challenge him in anyway. Well, Steven Ames. 9&8 ‘97 Masters “Finish the Job”. And yes, the childish silent treatment he has given certain members of the Golfing press, has been silly. We will see if he emerges as a different person, by his dealings with the media, and the fans. We’ll see if he relaxes a bit, and enjoys the ride a little more. It may be that this stuff has been hard-wired into him, and if so. He’ll probably walk away from the game pretty soon. I mean what’s the use of playing if you aren’t enjoying the sheer ride. If the only enjoyment you get is destroying the other golfers, then you’re missing the point. It’s why we don’t understand his rants whenever he hits a bad shot, or even a marginal one. He needed a break and not just for his transgressions off course. He needed to gather himself on-course as well. I hope he does both before he returns to the Tour.
"The game is swell when it's played well."
by Fairways and Grins on Feb 9, 2010 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
I think
The rumor mill out there relating to TW return is somehow sent out by team TW to test the waters on fan reaction to his return. Sound Cynical ? Perhaps, but I have no doubt it may possibly be true. JMHO
"pain is only weakness leaving the body"
F&G said…
" He’ll probably walk away from the game pretty soon"
…HUH? Where did you get this idea? Barring some major injury, TW will not retire from golf anytime soon, he’ll definitely compete on the Senior Tour(of course I won’t be around to see it)
And then this…
“It’s why we don’t understand his rants whenever he hits a bad shot, or even a marginal one”
…speak for yourself, I understand his rants perfectly, he’s a spolied brat who’s never had to control his temper.
I think he'll walk
away from the game sooner vs. later. it’s just how i see it happening. He won’t be the type who can lose consistently. He’s not wired that way. Once he starts losing, and others are better than him. He’ll walk. Senior Tour. Maybe some majors, and special venue appearances, but the grind. no way. The temper seems to have just gotten worse over the years. Seems in hindsight, he may have had much more than golf on his mind. Losing control of his personal life was probably his first major failure in life. So we’ll see.
"The game is swell when it's played well."
by Fairways and Grins on Feb 9, 2010 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed, F and G's
Dad’s training that served Tiger so well on the course didn’t include enjoying the ride as you put it…you look at Jack and he was the same but had grace about it. He appreciated his enemies on the course as people…Tiger just sees them as enemies. Not people, fellow competitiors if you like, but foes to destroy, like the army. Faldo was somewhere in between Jack and Tiger, he used to shut out opponents, and got called a loner for it. Tiger’s way may explain why he can’t gell in team formats like he should. Often, when one plays David in the Goliath senario, there is a chip on the shoulder. I’m not racist in any way possible, but being black obviously spurred on his father at a time when blacks were fighting for civil rights in the ’60’s. Tiger today has a “me against the world” way about him…it’s hard to make real friends that way.
"Me against the world"
Well said Easy,…right on the mark. There is just so much anger in TW ,so as to think it was repeatedly reinforced by Earl. From the “fist pumps” to the foul mouth rants,.. he’s always been an angry player. Win or loose. I remember him sneering at the crowd behind 18 at Bethpage when he won the US Open. I wondered why,….and then it hit me. Phil was the darling of the New York crowd that week, and this, Woods reaction ,was permeated by that. imo. He’s got a lot to learn about being a professional…….Z.
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Anger ?
I agree with the “me against the world” mentality – but is single minded determination and focus, topped off with a bit of perfectionism really “anger” ? He has never demonstrated any fear of another golfer – and he has never shown any displeasure with another golfer when he didn’t win. The “anger” I’ve seen was always pointed at himself. If he lost, it was his fault – if he got beat, shake the other guy’s hand then head to the range to bury the guy the next time out. That’s not anger – that competitiveness.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
He didn't show much grace to his opponents either
after the war was won or lost. The cussing is unacceptable with so many children in the crowd…the odd time is forgivable. Did he ever say sorry to the crowd for that ? Wouldn’t have doen any harm.
I fear the club flailing will not ease either,
Easing. He’s simply too big to not flail.
Did Hogan show “grace” to his opponents ? He never said 2 more than two words to an opponent. (remember the story about the guy who bet that Hogan would say more than 2 words during a round ? his reply was “you lose” and didn’t say another word)
Nicklaus was a bulldog – and galleries hated him because ot it. He wasn’t Arnie. Some people hate Tiger because he isn’t Phil.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
Hilarious Hogan story, Court.
And excellent Jack/Arnie/Tiger/Phil analogy. Plain and simple. You still got it! Not that I expected you to lose it overnight.
Hogan never cussed in front of people.
But he respected his rivals. Read his 5 lessons and you will see what he thought of them. Faldo was the same. Cold to opponents. But treated galleries well. Nicklaus was unpopular because he was a lot better than Arnie. Some of that is true with Tiger and Phil, but you can’t say Tiger has an ounce of grace like Nicklaus. He almost despises his opponents. It is this reason alone, as to why people can’t warm to him…skill…incredible..person…a jerk.
Yes sir,....ANGER.
Take a close look at his gesturing and expressions. This guy has an “in your face” mentality, that I personally view as unacceptable in golf. Throwing clubs and swearing is NOT BEING COMPETETITVE. It’s being disrepectful to the game and your playing partners. He’s done it since he was a amateur and it continues today. Even after he wins, he bombards the audience with anger. Bethpage and Torrey Pines come to mind. So does Bay Hill in 2008. Not acceptable at the professional level, and certainly not from a guy with 14 majors. Act like you’ve been there before ! Arnie and Jack and Freddy,…all tossed their caps into the air after big wins. Woods ????…he spikes his hat, or yells "f**k yaaa, or sneers at the crowd. That’s an inner anger being released. Not competitiveness. The one genuine moment we’ve seen from a Woods victory was after he won the Btitish Open the year his father passed. That was heart felt emotion, and the crowds just loved him for it. Now he’s built up that wall again, and that is really sad. However,…he does have just a bit more important things on his plate at the moment…………………..Z.
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I’m not sure competitiveness and good or bad behavior come from the same place. The drive to win, or at least compete well, is there for these guys whether they are quiet or boisterous, calm or explosive, or anywhere in between.
I see Tiger’s “celebrations” and blow ups – maybe just call it demonstrativeness – as things he sees as acceptable and have become that way since the 70’s and Billy “White Shoes” Johnson started doing his chicken dance in the end zone. Now football and basketball, even baseball, tennis, and even poker players see it as a part of the game. Is Tiger’s mentality any different ? Granted, it’s golf and it’s never really been a big part of the tradition – but we have seen players running around the green high fiving the crowd in celebration, throwing clubs and hats in the air, falling to their knees in celebration – and Tiger didn’t invent throwing clubs or swearing on the course – he just gets more attention for it…and yes, has probably done it more than most.
How can you say that his fist pump or a yell….or a club thrown against the bag…or swearing at himself after losing yet another drive to the right…is any less of a genuine emotion than his teary victory after his dad died ? Emotions aren’t good or bad – they just are. Sometimes they get out of control – and Tiger has shown less judgement and control of his the last few years.
I’m sure some psychologist could spend a long time digging into Woods melon to figure out if he’s still mourning his dad, or maybe just missing having that anchor in his life and he hasn’t adjusted to life without his dad…yada yada yada. It’s happened before – Mike Tyson turned into a nightmare of a human being after Cuss D’Amato died and that cretin Don King slithered into his head. With Cuss, Tyson was well behaved, disciplined, and was able to talk about the history and ins and outs of the boxing game as well as anybody.
Tiger has always been demonstrative – and he has always had that loose tongue after bad shots – but it’s been getting worse as we’ve all noticed. That’s not being dismissive – just pointing out the facts. And like you said, he has a lot on his plate right now – so it’s going to be put up or shut up for his maturity, family, and career. Personally, I’m pulling for the guy to recognize what he has, recognize what he stands to lose, and maybe he’ll remember the standards his dad raised him with – and we’ll see a new and improved Tiger Woods.
Have you seen any of the Michael Vick shows on BET ? He’s showing a lot of growth…now he needs time to let his new maturity become set in concrete…but he’s not going to stop playing football.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
I agree,....
When you say Tiger has shown less judgement and control. I disagree that “hot-doggin’” ala Billy"Whiteshoes"Johnson, has any place in golf. This isn’t the NFL,NBA or MLB. Tiger showing anger after a bad shot, is normal. But showing anger after he wins ??? That reveals he’s got some real issues. As for Woods being raised right by Earl,….I totally disagree. Earl didn’t set very high standards in his own personal life, and Tiger seems headed down the same path. I hope we see a new and improved Woods, because the version Earl presented us was just about the worst professional impersonation I’ve ever seen. He’s got a lot of changing to do if he’s ever gonna be a"professional golfer". Emphasis on “PROFESSIONAL”………………………..Z.
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I didn’t say that the hot-doggin’ has a place in golf – I said HE thinks it does.
When has Tiger shown “anger” after a win ? Are you talking about the fist pump and yell when he drains a putt to win at Bay Hill, for example ?
If Earl didn’t set high standards – how do you explain Tiger’s discipline ? That’s something most people only pick up from their parents, and for guys, their father.
No argument that he has some growing up to do – I’m just not going to go about saying it the same way you do.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
I hear ya.
We are in agreement that TW thinks “hottdoggin” has a place in golf. Or, at least he used to,…perhaps he’s changed his tune lately.
Tiger’s discipline ?,…uhhh you cannot be serious. In his personal life, he has shown little discipline. Did he get that from Earl,?….I’d say so.On the course, ?… every player manages their game based on their strengths. Woods has all the shots and manages his game quite differently from say,…Justin Leonard. That requires more discipline from Leonard, who simply doesn’t have Woods’ talent. Woods stradegy/disclipline is based on his talent. Lessor talents require tremendous discipline to be able to compete. Guys like Cory Pavin come to mind. Bomb and Gouge golf is Woods game. That doesn’t require much discipline. It doesn’t hurt him much being the best putter on the planet. Ball strikers like Pavin rely on precision. Given the new groove rule, the advantage now lies with the"Ball Strikers". So this new “game” will require the Bombers to show “disipline” and dial it back. We’ll see who has the real disipline now. Woods will adjust. Bubba Watson ?…hmmmm……………………Z.
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Discipline in his game. Common knowledge about how hard the guy works on his game and his conditioning to be able to play his best. Why he doesn’t continue that discipline to his personal life is anybody’s guess – but he’s sure paying a price for it.
dependence pure talent doesn’t win – look at Mickelson and Daly – probably the two MOST physically gifted golfers over the last 20 years. Tiger has the talent AND the discipline.
Woods does’t just play the bomb and gouge game. You don’t win US Opens with that style. Where do you think the “stinger” shot came from ? A need to put the ball in play. He hits more 3 and 5 woods off the tee than just about anybody in an attempt to keep the ball in play. There are courses where he CAN play that style, but be serious, he is the best at course management among the top players.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
Course management ?
Absolute nonsense. He wins because of his talent, not his management. He can play a different game because of that. Nobody’s saying he doesn’t work hard. He out works 99% of the field. That plus talent, equal wins. But disciplined ? Please,…disciplined players don’t toss clubs into bushes or galleries. They don’t slam tee markers, golf bags or anything else.If anything. anger shows a lack of discipline. Woods exhibits this far too frequently to be considered a top 5 manager of his game. Sam Snead always said,“never let it boil over, just keep it simmering”. Sam was a class act. Woods ?….not so much……Z.
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we’re still talking about two different things – I’m talking about course management – you’re talking about managing his emotions.
simmering and boiling are descriptions of level – so you’re saying that Sam Snead was “angry”…and you’d be right. (I read his book, too)
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
Sam's anger ?
I think it fair to say Sam got angry,..but he never let you see it. Tiger on the other hand is an open book, set on fire and thrown in your face. Tiger’s course mangement is nothing extraordinary. Almost all Tour players have a “game plan” for the course, and they stick pretty close to it. A plan tends to help eliminate “emotional” decisions that often end in disaster. Woods makes a plan based on his strengths and weaknesses,…..just like everbody else. The media seems to think this is quite a feat, when in fact it’s something every college player does. Much ado about nothing……………………….Z.
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Ok – let me toss out a few numbers – then you can tell me that Tiger’s course management (which is NOT the same thing as a plan) is the same as everybody else’s, including college and top amateur tournament players.
83 career wins (71 PGA Tour – 12 international) – 14 majors – 111 cuts made streak earlier in his career.
Sorry 3 – the guy gets his ball around the course better than anybody else. Course management is how well you put the ball where you want it and how well you recover from mistakes.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
Tigers a great player
Soooo,.. reciting his record does not indicate that he manages his game better than anybody else. It means he has superior talent. Course management is about putting the ball where you want it, which when last observed is not what Tiger does better than most. Tiger recovers from his mistakes better than most with great recovery shots, scrambling and putting. That’s pure talent. This has, nothing to do with course management. He knows how to score, which is what leads to wins. Cory Pavin manages his game much better than Woods, but does not possess Woods’ talent. You’re barking up the wrong tree here. I’ll give you Cory’s game plan and you probably won’t break par . (no offense) Not because your course management skills are poor, but because you most likely lack the talent to execute Cory’s plan.. No offense intended, as I do not know your golfing abilty. Tiger’s skill and work ethic have made him great, but it is a total fabrication by the media to suggest that he outhinks his oppostion. Neither does his opposition out think Tiger. Tiger possesses the skill to adapt and score from his mistakes. That has nothing to do with managent……………………………………….Z.
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Who said anything about the media ? Have you ever read Jack Nicklaus’ book on how he plays the game ? Lots of talk about course management.
You’re right – Corey Pavin gets more out his (relatively) limited physical skills than just about anybody I can think of. He manufactures all kinds of shots.
But denying that Tiger manages his game just because he has superior talent and physical skills is insane.
Like I said before – it’s not always what you do with the shots you hit well – it’s what you do with the shots you don’t hit well that make a champion. Hogan said he might hit 3 “perfect” shots in a round – which leaves a whole bunch of shots that have to be adjusted for on the next swing.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
I don't hit any type of shot well
but I manage to complete the course, every time. So there.
Hogan vs Woods
C’mon,…that’s not even a fair fight. Hogan defined a missed shot as any shot that didn’t hit his target. Woods misses are off the planet . Nicklaus was superior to Woods in driving the ball, so his course management skills became evident. Tiger drives it like Phil (look up their stats) and both create great recovery shots. The difference is Woods is better at it from outside 75 yards or so and thus he can manufacture a score. He doesn’t manage himself to a score,because he’s in recovery mode most of the time. If we managed Tigers ball to 100 yards from the flag and in every fairway, then that would be management. Tiger doesn’t ever do that, but lots of others do. Thedifference is, Tiger can score from where he hits it, and the others have trouble from the middle of the fairway. The biggest reason is Tiger putts the ball so pure. That is his greatest asset. He doesn’t out think anybody. He wins hitting great shots out of trouble, and dropping putts. Hogan was just the opposite. Hogan is on record as never missing a fairway in an event, and still not winning ! He simply couldn’t putt the ball well. But he could control his ball tee to green, and thus execute a stradegy. He had a pretty good record. Woods record is better, because of his putting. As I said, there are many better at managing their games, but none compares with Woods ability to score. Phil doesn’t have that talent, and when he drives it wildly, he’s usually a non-factor. That’s why he’s so focused on becoming a better ball striker. If he can hit 70% of the fairways he’d dominate. He’s better than anyone around the green should he mis hit an iron. But he cannot recover as Woods does, from mishit tee shots. Therein lies a big part of the difference between the two. Talented players, but not superior course managers. imo………………………………………….Z.
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When he misses putts, he loses...
even with his talent..incredible putting has more to do with his winning than anything else…if that dries up…forget it.
Anger after a win.
US Open at Bethpage 72nd hole. US Open at TP, 72nd hole. 2008 Bay Hill. You get the picture I’m sure…………………..Z.
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no – I don’t – his “barbaric yawp” isn’t anger – it’s conquering
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
BARBARIC yawp ???
So that’s what you call it. Never heard golf described as “barbaric”. Chalk up another positive for Woods. …..Z.
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YAWP defined.
noun- “a noisy, foolish utterance”
verb- "to talk noisely, foolishly or complainingly "
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Walt Whitman
sorry – English Lit major stuff. (but you’ll find it in “The Dead Poet’s Society” too)
It’s from the poem “Song of Myself”…
“I too am not a bit tamed, I too am untranslatable,
I sound my barbaric YAWP over the roofs of the world.”
He’s talking about a big, vocal sound that announces your presence.
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YAWP
OK,..if you insist,Woods plays barbaric golf. Not sure that bodes well for the “gentleman’s game” the rest of us play. LOL……………………………………….Z.
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Luckily, the rest of the Tour pretty much follows the traditions…except maybe for Stricker and that crying thing…(“there’s no crying in golf !”)
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
No crying in golf ?
Ya wouldn’t say that if you saw me putt !!! Downright pathetic. If I had Stricker’s stroke, I’d be playin’ real golf again. SS is just a softie,….in a good way………..Z.
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lol – I have a friend in the same boat as you – absolutely amazing from tee to green, but has gotten to the point where he announces that he can three putt from 2’ or “I can miss this putt” from inside a foot. He tries to joke about it, but you can tell it really bothers him.
A few years ago at an East Lake media day, we were playing 16 (long downhill par 4) – we had the same caddy and my ball was miles in the woods, so he went with me. Danny had his driver in hand and yelled that he needed a club – the caddy said “hit the driver !” Danny said, “ok” and hit it hole high, 4’ right of the hole. When we got to the green, we wouldn’t let the caddy give him his putter – so he barely lipped out the birdie putt with the driver and tapped in with it. Greatest par I’ve ever seen.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
He hasn't got much time to put it right..
35 this year and 5 good years golf wise IMO…I don’t think he has the desire to go on for another 10 years…we will see.
If I might add
After his loss to Y.E. Yang last year at Hazeltine, he was less than gracious in defeat. Watch the tape of him after Yang sunk his put on 18 and the less than diplomatic congrats and handshake afterwards. jes sayin
"pain is only weakness leaving the body"
very true – there was a hat off handshake and congratulations given – but what more do you want from the guy ? He just suffered a loss unlike any other he had ever been through. Yang beat him after Woods had the 54 hole lead.
on the other hand – Yang wasn’t hanging around for conversation with Woods, either. Being the dedicated athlete he is, he wasted no time starting his weight lifting workout. :-D
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
A forced smile would been nice. Only hurts
for a minute. Maybe take a little Ambien first.
Good point !
he was a sore loser…his putting fell below his usual. Look for more of the same in the future. Rememebr Watson ? He had 8 majors at the age of 33…could have had 15 if he continued to putt. Tiger has holed way more than his share of 30 footers…that can’t continue.
Not Married. :o)
Cause I didn’t feel like getting hit over the head with a golf club, nor losing half of my stuff every 5 years. Court, some of what we do is events related on the PR side of things. Accommodations, travel etc etc. We keep a very low profile.
"pain is only weakness leaving the body"
Jumpn......You also spend most of your
time praying MW has a bad year…….get ready…..I’m thinking ProV1’s……lol
The Saints ARE the SUPER BOWL CHAMPS....WHO DAT!
just saw em
with a dubya mask on………I know Who Dat was………Mardi Gras on steroids Whew Dat looks like fun.
"The game is swell when it's played well."
by Fairways and Grins on Feb 9, 2010 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
em brother
I already cleared off a space on one of my bookshelfs for the TW Mistresses golf balls that your going to have to send me. :o)
"pain is only weakness leaving the body"
WELL then...
…Sansabelts all around, and don’t forget the white patent leather loafers…got a gold medallion ? :-)
Sounds like a fun job, pro.
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