AP: Tiger Woods to Return to Therapy Following Friday Annoucement
by Ryan Ballengee on Feb 18, 2010 11:18 PM EST
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PrintThe Associated Press has obtained a letter from PGA Tour Commissioner Tim Finchem to the PGA Tour policy board that says Woods will return to therapy following his announcement on Friday morning.
The announcement coincides with a break in Woods' therapy that would allow him to read his statement, spend some time with his children, and then return to therapy.
Tim Finchem made mention of Woods' continuing rehab in remarks on Wednesday at Dove Mountain and the Accenture Match Play.
"[M]y sense is that this is part of his schedule and what he's dealing with and going through, but I don't know that,
Finchem said.
Later he added, "I don't know what he's going to do after he finishes his rehab, you know, I think all of that is TBD."
The letter seemingly explains why Woods' agent Mark Steinberg indicated that this announcement could not wait.
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well isn’t THIS interesting ? He’s not trying to overshadow anything, and he’s not ready to play, and he’s not ready to put up with the media’s nonsense just yet.
any bets that the question in the media tent on Friday will be “so, have you changed your stand on what Tiger did today ?” I hope at least one guy will say, “yes, I jumped to a conclusion because I let myself be swayed by you leaches in the media who only wanted to get me to say something on a subject I really didn’t understand. It looks like the man is taking his rehab more seriously than I gave him credit for, and I hope it helps.”
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
It will be interesting.
They’ll have to catch Ernie at his home…….Same for Rory. And Butch, Well we all know his Beef. Funny how Men will speak out against you when you’re down without knowing what’s really going on.
"The game is swell when it's played well."
by Fairways and Grins on Feb 19, 2010 9:01 AM EST up reply actions
Speaking Out ?
None of them voluntarily spoke out at all. They had microphones shoved in their faces and were asked loaded questions. It’s not liked they chased after Jim Grey ( who looks silly in a golf hat ) down and said please interview me so I can tell the world my negative thoughts about tiger. sheeesh Jim Grey askes a lot of rediculous questions after boxing matches as well. I’m surprised he hasn’t received a beat down by now. LOL
"pain is only weakness leaving the body"
voluntary because they are not required by the Tour to do those stand-up interviews after a round
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
What are you on about?
They do the interviews to be asked about their rounds. They get asked a couple of questions on this and then comes the inevitable ? which was all the interviewer really wanted to ask.
that’s what I thought – but I don’t understand your problem with what I said. pro said that none of them “voluntarily spoke out”. I just pointed out that the standup interviews ARE voluntary – they don’t have to talk to Jim Gray or anybody else with a microphone in their hand – regardless of the question…and they don’t have to answer any question asked.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
Pretty sure even Mrs. Gray doesn't have to
talk to Jim Gray.
I thought you were being pedantic
about the word “voluntarily”. They may do the interviews voluntarily but they don’t " volunteer " their opinions on TW – they are repeatedly questioned on him.
they don’t HAVE to “volunteer” their opinions
there are media responsibilities that are NOT voluntary – players can be stopped at a station usually just off the 18th green behind the stands or around the clubhouse – and top players and leaders usually have to go to the media tent after getting cards signed and awards ceremonies.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
hmm – not sure – maybe there’s a little rope jumping in the locker room but….oh wait…not THAT kind of double dutch…. :-D
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
you're kidding, right?
Tour players know Woods. They have played with him for years, see him in the locker room, hang with him on the practice green. What makes you think they get their information FROM the media? I think they know what they’re talking about.
The way you defend Woods you’d think he was from Georgia.
Truth has a well-known liberal bias.
Ernie spoke out.
He said, “It’s selfish, and you can print that”. that’s speaking out.
"The game is swell when it's played well."
by Fairways and Grins on Feb 19, 2010 9:25 AM EST up reply actions
Yes he did
After Jim Gey Chased him down for the interview.
"pain is only weakness leaving the body"
Els also added
“I feel sorry for the sponsor. Mondays are a good day to make a statement. This takes a lot away from the tournament.”
F's.....Typical......defend the
admitted adulterer, liar, cheater, racist scumbag and put down one of the most respected, classy and popular guys on the tour……I’ll bet you sleep with a tiger doll!!!
The Saints ARE the SUPER BOWL CHAMPS....WHO DAT!
Em relax
You should still be riding the wave of the Saints victory. All the judgemental rhetoric is beneath you. Sit back and relax my man. Golf is a game. Chill. I didn’t put Ernie down. I stated my opinion as you often do. I both like and respect Ernie, but he spoke without knowledge of what was going on in this instance. Not a crime, just a mistake. We all make ’em. Again, relax.
"The game is swell when it's played well."
by Fairways and Grins on Feb 19, 2010 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
Judgmental Rhetoric??.......the truth is now rhetoric....
Let’s see…..he admitted to the adultery…fact. By that admission he confirms he has been lying about the activities…fact. By definition, adultery is a form of cheating….fact. And he has had many, many encounters with white women, choosing to ignore, black women…..which would make him a racist, in the opinion of many of those who love to play the race card……FACT!
If you want to read rhetoric….go back and read your posts……..you have a very unhealthy “thing” going on here with Tiger.
The Saints ARE the SUPER BOWL CHAMPS....WHO DAT!
gotta disagree with this point…
“And he has had many, many encounters with white women, choosing to ignore, black women…..which would make him a racist, in the opinion of many of those who love to play the race card……FACT!”
…that does NOT make him a racist. If you look at some of the skanks he cheated with, all that does is convict him of having bad taste!
talk to him nibs
words like racist misused are totally irresponsible. talk to him nibs.
"The game is swell when it's played well."
by Fairways and Grins on Feb 19, 2010 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
You're right......"it does not make him a racist"......
In this Obammmmmmma world, anyone who criticizes or disagrees with Obama, or those who criticize Tiger are quickly label racists. That is why I added the “in the opinion of many of those who love to play the race card”….it was meant to show the overuse of the “race card” as a tool to debate a point…….Most of the “race” comments concerning Tiger came from black leaders……
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i hear you em
the race card is totally over used. This is a humanity matter.
"The game is swell when it's played well."
by Fairways and Grins on Feb 19, 2010 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
yeah, he’s only had 3 months to make a statement like this…perfect timing really. couldn’t have been better…stealing the thunder of an ex-sponsor – total coincidence really. Believe it, after all he’s Tiger Woods ya’ll. He’d never lie, right?
ahh,
blissfully ignorant. His agent spoke with Accenture, and they agreed that the timing was as good as possible considering the circumstances (Tiger’s return to rehab). A spokesman for Accenture also stated that this has given the tournament a buzz that had been missing. Keep up with what’s going on. Keep up.
"The game is swell when it's played well."
by Fairways and Grins on Feb 19, 2010 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
I heard a guy on the radio here in Atlanta try to compare Tiger’s plan to make a statement to…believe it or not…Michael Vick. Vick had 2 YEARS in jail to think about things. It was a lot more than 3 months before he even went to court, and in that time he lied to the public, the Falcons ownership, his now former teammates…and worst of all, his mother – to her face – on camera.
Three months isn’t all that long a time – and nobody changes their life overnight the way a lot of people seem to think Woods should have.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
It’s not that long Court in the grand scheme – you’re right. But in the world we live today where communication is instantaneous, 140 characters and soundbites dominate – 3 months is an eternity in the public eye. Or out of it in this case.
Time will tell
it’s obvious he won’t play untill his marrage is sorted one way or another…looks like it will take quite a while.
I am at the point where I
just want to hear something, anything from the horse’s mouth.
I'll keep an eye out for you...at www.oneeyedgolfer.blogspot.com
by One-Eyed Golfer Guy on Feb 19, 2010 5:46 AM EST reply actions
OR
Hi, My name is Tiger Woods and I have a secret. Would the REAL TW please stand up.
"pain is only weakness leaving the body"
Or
Hi, I’m human, and i’ve made a terrible mistake of judgement, and my actions have been totally inappropriate. I now am taking the necessary actions to repair the harm i have done. I am fighting my demons, and trying to save my family. This is the battle of a lifetime. I know i must face judgement, but i’m not concerned with that so much. I am dealing with the issues which have caused my downfall. I Will answer questions at a later date. Again, my family and I ask for the time and space we need to work out our troubles. Thanx.
"The game is swell when it's played well."
by Fairways and Grins on Feb 19, 2010 9:06 AM EST up reply actions
Jumpn.....we all know who the
real Tiger is……we’ll just have to see who shows up today. I won’t be watching, but I’m sure it will be replayed over and over……
The Saints ARE the SUPER BOWL CHAMPS....WHO DAT!
you won't have any choice, em
The “news” conference will be blasted on every screen in the universe. There is no escape.
Truth has a well-known liberal bias.
Noone has to watch
most are interested for whatever reason though. It will be analyzed beyond belief. No matter what is said nothing really changes. Those who like him will accept him back. Those who don’t.. won’t. So why watch?
"The game is swell when it's played well."
by Fairways and Grins on Feb 19, 2010 9:28 AM EST up reply actions
“We all know who the real Tiger is” ? I’m not in that group – I have never spent the first second in the man’s presence off the golf course during a tournament. I can’t claim to know anything about his personality in a private or non-golf setting.
The closest thing to a personal interraction I have had was nearly knocking him down in the parking lot at East Lake. (personal cat-like reflexes and an NFL-worthy spin moved probably saved me from…bouncing off of him like a balloon and landing on my own butt)
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
Good for your organization (GWA), Ryan
they voted to boycott this so called news conference
so in other words they weren’t invited?
"The game is swell when it's played well."
by Fairways and Grins on Feb 19, 2010 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
“I cannot stress how strongly our board felt that this should be open to all media and also for the opportunity to question Woods,” said Vartan Kupelian, president of the 950-member group. “The position, simply put, is all or none. This is a major story of international scope. To limit the ability of journalists to attend, listen, see and question Woods goes against the grain of everything we believe.”
3 ONLY INVITED
From the GWA and when they complained it was changed to 6. The boys from GWA said all or nothing. Good On them.
"pain is only weakness leaving the body"
why is that “good on them” ? personally, I like being threatened like that by people who hold no sway over what I do. the answer is “fine – then none of you get in”. the reaction is usually shock by the group followed by begging that they were only kidding.
now the members of the GWAA will be excluded from any media contact with Woods that he has any control over.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
I agree with Progolf
finally someone in the media stood up to Woods. you don’t get to say who can and can’t attend. it is either open to all who have credentials or none. besides, it was not a press conference. no questions were allowed. all it was was a robot reading a speech. no need for the media to be there.
by freeze gopher on Feb 19, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
FG – next time you have a party at your house, please let me know and I’ll spread the word on every corner of your town – then we’ll see how your mind changes on that subject. This was Tiger’s statement – it was never a “press conference”. Three invitations were sent to the GWAA – but that wasn’t good enough, so he doubled it.
Did you see room for 950 seats in that room ? What about the rest of the media that would have made the same demand ?
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
it wasn't a party
……besides, you made my point. it WAS NOT a press conference. so if you are the press, why go?
by freeze gopher on Feb 19, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
I didn’t say it was a party – I used the “next time YOU throw a party” thing as an example…meaning that you throw a party and a whole bunch of uninvited “guests” decide to show up.
yes – Tiger CAN say who and who does not attend – he was the one making all the arrangements (it was his company).
You and I agree – but not with pro – it wasn’t a matter of just not showing up to a place they knew they weren’t invited – the GWAA was making DEMANDS on how they wanted the proceedings to be held, then threw a tantrum when Woods didn’t genuflect.
Back to the “you throwing a party” example – YOU decide on the food and drinks and music – then a crowd of uninvited people shows up demanding steaks and wine when you had beer and hot dogs as the menu…then they start yelling at you and calling you names because you weren’t running out to the store to buy steaks and wine ? I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t put up with them being on your property.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
statement, but but but
Everyone including TGC and ESPN called it a press conference. TPC Sawgrass could have housed 500 or more in the main ballroom. I’ve never seen that blue curtain backdrop anywhere in the clubhouse, so they apparently brought it in and staged the smaller room. It looked a lot like a trade show booth backdrop if ya ask me
"pain is only weakness leaving the body"
And I do agree with you on
The fact that it wasn’t a press conference. For the small contingent of invitees they could have had it anywhere, including the local Waffle House. knuk knuk.
"pain is only weakness leaving the body"
I also read that only the sycophants and toadies
would be in the same room with TW and the press would be in a completely different room watching his performance on TV. Don’t know if that is true, however.
Wendy......It wouldn't surprise me, but
I’m wondering what room all the blonds will be in??
The Saints ARE the SUPER BOWL CHAMPS....WHO DAT!
This is a beginning
I’m positive there will be an “open” press conference going forward. First the complaint was we want to hear from him, now it’s we don’t like the format. Patience people. He will answer questions before he plays again. Everyone will get their pound of flesh. Patience.
"The game is swell when it's played well."
by Fairways and Grins on Feb 19, 2010 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
F&G - he's called the meeting.
Frankly a simple interim statement should suffice. This will be farce and he’s drawing more flak because of it. Who the hell is advising him?
IMG…Internationa management group, and I agree, he’s getting bad advice. If he didn’t want to talk to the press, he shouldn’t have called a press confernce, he should have just posted this statement online at his website. And he certainly didn’t need to do it during the Accenture.
Nibs
What do you think of the explanation about the timing of the statement?
"The game is swell when it's played well."
by Fairways and Grins on Feb 19, 2010 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
you believe
that a simple interim statement would suffice. Truth is Wendy, people in this country want blood. They want tears, and a “pound of flesh”. This is a beginning, a step in a process. No matter how he came out it would be criticized. Up til now the thing was “we want to hear something from him”, and now it’s “we don’t like the way he’s going about it”. Well, sometimes you can’t win for losing.
"The game is swell when it's played well."
by Fairways and Grins on Feb 19, 2010 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
LOL
I just got a call from my girlfriend and she and four other of the Sawgrass member wives are perched high atop the upper Verandah at the club watching the things unfold around the clubhouse. A lot of cops and security I’m told. Sounds to me like their on their 3rd bloody mary’s.
"pain is only weakness leaving the body"
Now that's how you view a Tiger
Can’t get bit from the upper Verandah. lol.
"The game is swell when it's played well."
by Fairways and Grins on Feb 19, 2010 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
I'm madly in love with
any lady that uses “sycophants and toadies” in the same sentence…
I'll keep an eye out for you...at www.oneeyedgolfer.blogspot.com
by One-Eyed Golfer Guy on Feb 19, 2010 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
Man, the sound of the camera shutters has got to be somewhat distracting
For some reason, I can’t stand looking at his face right now. I am listening, but I don’t want to look.
May the wind be always at your back, and may your placekicker have icewater in his veins.
I am actually somewhat impressed with Tiger's statement so far
He’s saying what we’ve all been thinking: “I felt entitled” etc.
May the wind be always at your back, and may your placekicker have icewater in his veins.
As I figured
We did watch the TW pre-written statement in our meeting on a laptop. What I saw in HIM was Anger and not remorse.
"pain is only weakness leaving the body"
I didn't get away as early as I was supposed to so
I watched the statement. I thought it was a positive step in the right direction. It is difficult to know if the sincerity is real, but my gut feeling was that he does understand the gravity of his actions. He said he let people down…..but I don’t remember him ever actually asking for forgiveness….I may have missed that. The only 2 “rumors” he addressed were the domestic violence and the performance enhance drugs, which he denied. Based on what he said, he may not be back for awhile, which would confirm his desire to save his marriage and fix his faults. I wish him the best.
The Saints ARE the SUPER BOWL CHAMPS....WHO DAT!
My man!
If he achieved a measure of positive response from you, then that’s a step in the right direction. I too wish him and his family well. Boy that had to be tough.
"The game is swell when it's played well."
by Fairways and Grins on Feb 19, 2010 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
F's......Please don't take my post as
a blanket approval of Tiger. Every journey begins with one step…..and as I said, this was a step in the right direction. His journey will be a long and tough one and he may or may not make it. His anger at the media was misplaced, as that anger should have been directed at himself.
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I hear u
em, and i totally agree with you. He has a very long journey ahead of him, but it’s good for him. He was never God, or a god. He is a human being, and being looked upon as some sort of deity was not right. He lived in that false persona, and ultimately it led to his downfall. Now he’s a human being again, what with flaws and scars. Now we’ll see what kind of grinder he really is. I think his wife has a good grasp of the situatiion. She will be a barometer as to how things are going with TW. I don’t think she will be duped again.
"The game is swell when it's played well."
by Fairways and Grins on Feb 19, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
I wasn’t impressed at all. That was a classic demonstration of how to say nothing and to take 13 mins to say it! But the one thing I did agree with is that Elin told him that his apology to her will not come from his words but from his actions. I totally agree and say the same thing as Elin…so far his actions are still selfish and arrogant.
Chip
There is nothing he could have said to make some people get off his back. He said what he said, and it seemed to be heartfelt. Truth is, it’s a process…….a healing process for him, his family, and all those who believed in him. For those who wallow in negativity. They suffer from oscar the grouch syndrome. Nothing will ever satisfy their need to find the negative side of this situatiion. It is what it is. What did you think of the statement?
"The game is swell when it's played well."
by Fairways and Grins on Feb 19, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
I thought initially that is was very contrived, but as he went on, I warmed to it. One thing I really liked, was his reference to respecting the game more. Golf and life often mirror each other. If he can respect his wife and family more, then maybe he will begin to respect himself as well. I think that’s his biggest problem and I think he made a pretty good start to it all today.
Play it as it lies
Chipn.....I didn't think he ever did anything but
read the statement. I would have liked to have seen him speak from an outline and speak from his heart…..but he may not be capable of that. We’ll just have to see where it goes from here. This will appease some, and of course the “suck-ups” will revel in each word, but for most it will be a “proof is in the pudding” thing…..he has his work cut out for him.
The Saints ARE the SUPER BOWL CHAMPS....WHO DAT!
He sure does. I’d like to think he was sincere and I would like to see him back on the golf course soon. However, I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see him take the year off. Whatever you feel about the whole saga, it took guts to get up there and say what he did.
Play it as it lies
Guts? LOL….not taking questions is cowardly, and blaming the media for following Elin and his kids is just a distraction…the media would not be following Elin and kids if not for what Tiger has done, and he could stop them from following them anytime he wanted, just by opening up to the media, but no, he wants to assert his right to privacy, but he wants to deny the media their right to follow this story. BS….he’s an arrogant coward!
Do you really believe that the media would stop just because they could ask a few questions? You have a lot of faith – I’m a little more cynical than that I’m afraid.
Play it as it lies
Yes, I really believe that. I also believe that Tiger would never do it, so it’s all just speculation. But the fact of the matter is that the media wants Tiger; by Tiger disappearing and not answering any questions, which is his right, the media has no other recourse than to follow this story in other ways, like by following Elin to see if she’s wearing her wedding ring, which is their right also.
No other recourse?
Wow. Just…wow.
I’ll be sure to use this defense when they catch me scaling the wall at Janet Jackson’s estate. You see your honor I want Janet, by Janet disappearing and not answering any of my phone calls, I had no other recourse by to sneak into her home and go through her lingerie drawer.
actually – it’s not the media’s “right” – there are stalking laws :-)
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
Actually, I didn’t say that, now did I? I said, and I quote, which for some reason you can’t or won’t do…
“the media has no other recourse than to follow this story in other ways, like by following Elin to see if she’s wearing her wedding ring, which is their right also.”
…note well, I didn’t say anything about breaking any laws, ie. by stalking or scaling a wall.
Now when will you be holding your press conference/reading your statement of apology to me?
my bad – I forgot that dieties such as yourself don’t understand joking around
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
Your damned right it’s your bad…(and just where exactly is the joking in your statement…“actually – it’s not the media’s "right" – there are stalking laws”?) If you really think that is funny, then you’re delusional. And then you compound your offense by saying…“I forgot that dieties such as yourself”…that is far more offensive than calling someone a “fucking idiot”…if Ryan had any scruples, he’d ban you from this site!
“if Ryan had any scruples, he’d ban you from this site!”
Hah! Oh, the irony.
by Double Eagle on Feb 19, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
niblic, it turns out that you’re going to get a time out for this. I said no cussing and you cussed.
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by Ryan Ballengee on Feb 19, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
chip,
He could have posted what he said today at his website….when he wants to talk to the public, he should call a press conference and take questions. In the meantime, hire a grammar czar…
“Toward the end of his statement, Tiger addressed his marriage and said: "I understand the press wants to ask me for the details… if Elin and I will remain together… as far as I am concerned every one of these questions and answers are between Elin and I."
…between you and me, I’m too busy posting ar WR to continue to perfrom that service for Tiger, especially, pro bono.
It was a start. It’s going to be a long hard road and I think he’s 100% correct in saying that the heart of it all is between he and Elin. It’s none of my business, nor do I want or need to know any more than I already do. I’m a golf fan, I want to see the best do their best. Like him, love him, hate him – he’s the best and I want him back playing golf.
Play it as it lies
http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/19/crisis-manager-michael-sitrick-tiger-woods-speech/
One of the biggest crisis managers in America says Tiger Woods’ address was a great 5 minute speech … problem is it lasted 13 minutes.
which means
that he wrote, spoke and conveyed his own feelings in the speach. Doesn’t mean he was telling the whole truth or anything, but atleast he spoke in his own words. Nibs what did you think of his level of sincerity, and humility?
"The game is swell when it's played well."
by Fairways and Grins on Feb 19, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Smoke and Mirrors ???
Listen,…I maybe the toughest critic in here regarding TW, but there was just enough in his statement for me to think he’s taking responsiblity. That’s definitely a positive. Is he sincere about being sorry for his actions, or just about getting caught ? Well his words say he’s sorry, but his actions will be the difference maker, as he said. We’ll see. IMO if he comes back too soon, then that action will indicate he’s not sincere about undoing all the wrongs he’s inflicted on his family. People do not change overnight or in a few months. I’ve heard real change from destructive behavior takes 3-5 years. Now,… Woods won’t be out that long, but if he’s serious I’d say it’s 50/50 whether we see him at all this year. If he’s back in a few weeks, then this was all “smoke and mirrors”. He’s made the first step, and I hope he rebuilds what he’s torn down . But it won’t happen in a few weeks. So we’ll see what his future actions will say. I remain doubtful, but there is a chance based on what his “WORDS” were today……………………..Z.
you're still away,...choke on it !
He had to start somewhere
and in my estimation this was a VERY good start. Yes of course “the proof is always in the pudding”, but he said all the right things and I felt it was very sincere. I believe he meant what he said. He can’t change the past, but he can absolutely be better going forward. I look forward to watching his return (whenever that may be) and wish him and his family well.
Roll Tide !!
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