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Do We Know the Saturday Pin at Pebble's 14th for the Open?

After Bryce Molder and Paul Goydos both gave away their tournaments at the par 5 14th hole on Sunday by each making nine there in consecutive groups.  As Goydos put it, he had to watch 18 shots on that hole.  The major source of the problem was that the pin placement on 14 was on the top tier of a very small green, just feet beyond a bunker whose depth causes a downslope near the pin.  In other words, aiming for the pin is extremely difficult in that pin.

Most players, included Goydos, wound up playing short and right of the pin.  That left a chip shot up a slope, but left the player without a direct line to the pin.  Goydos and Molder made their mistake by trying to angle their way to the pin instead of playing to the back of the green and conceding a two-putt bogey.

Instead of doing that, though, they chipped toward the hole, passed it by, and the ball slid off of the green and down a mowed area.  From there, the comeback chipper was much too difficult to hold, ultimately leading to nine for both players.

If you think about how that pin would play out in the US Open on Saturday (because Mike Davis likes to tempt players on par 5s on Sunday), the 14th would potentially be a disaster for the tournament.  Consider that Pebble on Sunday was not set up with US Open firmness and brown-ness, and the nines still happened.  The 14th was the third hardest hole yesterday.  It would easily be the hardest hole in the Open.

It would seem unlikely that Mike Davis would take this pin position, though.  Davis likes options.  This par 5 would have no options if this pin was in play.  Golfers would have to lay up as best they could, fly in a wedge to the middle to middle back of the green and hope to hold it if they want a birdie.

The only way that Davis could make this pin palatable is if he moved the tee up drastically in conjunction with it, thereby enticing players to go for the green in two.  Were a longer player able to drive the ball to the left side of the fairway and then draw in the ball hard from the right to the putting surface, there is at least the vague chance for an eagle.

That is probably the only way that we see this pin at 14 at the Open.

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I liked the pin placement

These guys have to be challenged sometimes as some of the holes at Pebble are quite easy, even for the average golfer. Perhaps they should lengthen the fringe behind the green sligtly, so that the players that make a great shot at the pin are not penalized by an automatic run off. By doing so only the players that overcook the shot will get the run-off over the green. Goydos chip up from the front left of the green behind the trap was actually a good one and almost held on.

"pain is only weakness leaving the body"

by progolf on Feb 15, 2010 11:55 AM EST reply actions  

I say keep the same pin placement

and simply change the commercial from “These guys are good” to “These guys aren’t good.”

J/K. Were I in that position I’d’ve taken three unplayable lies till I had an easy chip shot, then two-putt for an eight. It sure beats the hell out of a nine and is only slightly less embarrassing.

by TXQ on Feb 15, 2010 12:05 PM EST reply actions  

I agree with TX,

a snowman is better than 9…I don’t believe I ever had a 9, but I have had snowmen…And as far as the pin placement…I have learned to never say never…STUB

by thinker on Feb 15, 2010 12:21 PM EST reply actions  

Nope – that’ll be the Sunday placement – and you can bet these guys will remember what happened.

And where’s Phil leading the charge on grooves ? Both of those pitch shots would have stopped with last year’s grooves.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Feb 15, 2010 4:09 PM EST reply actions  

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