Jim Brighters Doesn't Buy Euro Tour Players' "Sanctimony" About the PGA Tour
by Charles Boyer on Nov 9, 2010 9:19 PM EST
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Is Europe the New America For Golf?
Rory, you're so above the notion of playing for the money? How noble, but if your reason for not competing in America is it can be lonely when you play badly, play better or find some kids in the U.S. to play with after school.
I do believe the European Tour is where the best players are at the current moment. But don't bring the sanctimony that the PGA Tour is below you somehow.
Brighters offers some good perspective on this emerging issue, and best of all, he does so in a Canadian newspaper.
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"have you stopped beating your wife" ?
This is another one of those questions – “have you stopped playing for money ?” or “have you stopped wanting to play against the best in the world ?”
Brighters says that for one tour to go up, another tour has to go down. Agree sometimes – but not in this case. The European Tour is improving not because the US Tour is getting worse – but because the guys on the European Tour are getting better. The game is getting deeper. Just because Tiger isn’t at his best, or the Europeans won the Ryder Cup (again) doesn’t mean the PGA Tour is calling Hooters to borrow their tour name.
Have to agree with him on the “loneliness” thing – geez – grow up, kid. You chose the life – quit being a whiney little girl.
Then again, if I had a girlfriend who looked like his, I would want to stay close to home, too. :-D
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens." - Ben Stein
I heard no whining - just a straightforward explanation
of why he wasn’t going to be a PGA Tour member next year.
Agree with much of your post – but why oh why when you want to denigrate a man do you call them a " little girl"? Don’t little boys ever whine?
yes – we do – but we are nowhere near as good at it as you girls. same goes for telling lies.
proof ? When women whine – you usually end up getting what you want. And we men get caught lying more than women. :-)
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens." - Ben Stein
NO, Real men doesn' whine about nothin
well, maybe if we doesn’t get the horse we wanted or sumpthin like that….but that’s about all… I has always asked, why little girls is so whiney and scream all the time…Damm, hurts ones earballs…Us tough little boys, gots them STIFF UPPER LIPS AND SUCH….STUB
Nor do real women
‘cept of course if we don’t get those new shoes or somesuch. Stiff upper-lip? Don’t you all go on Oprah?
Careful here...ya is talkin
abot a US of A icon here….STUB
Rory is 21.
He has grown up in Ireland and played his golf on the Euro Tour. That’s where his mates are. Ask anyone who plays on the US Tour about how much less friendly it is than the Euro. He’s still a kid, but with his head screwed on the right way and with a pride and loyalty to his own home and Tour. Good for him.
What is whiney, are the US Tour players, who can’t play beyond the Fedup Cup because they need a rest. Tell that to the Euros whose new season starts before the year is even done and rack more air miles in a year, than most US players would in 5. Perhaps that is one big reason why the Euros are occupying 6 of the top ten in OWGR and won three majors last year.
Another thing about Rory, is his absolute honesty when asked a question. I hope that he doesn’t become as hard bitten as some and answer those same questions with stock, well scripted platitudes. That would be a shame.
So it’s the PGA Tour guys fault that they don’t have to travel around the world to play tournaments ? That makes no sense. One more time – you’d have to be insane to think that the Euro Tour guys WANT to do all this travelling. If Europe had a better climate, and had enough sponsors to play a full schedule, they would be doing it the same way it’s done in the US.
Who says the US Tour guys “can’t” play beyond the FEC ? Tiger an Phil were in Asia and are now in Australia. And once this tournament is over, you’ll see the top Euro Tour guys head home for a month before gearing up for 2011. The lowest PGA Tour guys are still playing, but 2011 on the PGA Tour means January of 2011.
Rory may have been honest, and we all love that, but if the line about not wanting to be around the PGA Tour during the FEC playoffs really came out of his mouth, that’s about as dumb a statement as has ever been made. Four tournaments in five weeks on great courses for huge money, including a shot at a separate $10 million prize. Wow – what punishment for being on the PGA Tour. I don’t know how these guys do it.
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens." - Ben Stein
Rory said
that he needed a break after the PGA and could only have a week because of the Fedex. With another couple of months of full time play, I can see his point. The Fedex is a money making venture from Finchem trying to compete with your football season. It will be done and dusted withing four years.
PGA Tour folks talk about it like it is a success. The real proof, however, is whether a sponsor will commit to paying not only the prize money but also the sponsorship fee. It could be the best show on the planet, but if no one is willing to pay for it or watch it, it will indeed disappear.
by Charles Boyer on Nov 10, 2010 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
What were the ratings like OMP?
How many people went out to watch? Did the sponsors get their money’s worth? If no one is willing to pay for it, or watch it, then it will be gone and sooner rather than later.
ratings for what ?
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens." - Ben Stein
are you trying to compare viewership of the FEC vs RtD ?
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens." - Ben Stein
I was asking how viable the Fedex if the TV ratings were poor and the bums on seats at the venues were less than stellar.
by chip n'putt on Nov 10, 2010 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
Waaaa-waaa-waaaa – Rory wasn’t in the FEC – he’s not a Tour member. You don’t really believe that, do you ? A 21 year old whining about being too tired to make an extra few hundred thousand dollars to potentially $14 million ?
Since you’re all so goo-goo eyed at his “honesty” – why didn’t he just say that (a) he prefers the European Tour, (b) he’s still working on fixing his swing to fix his back problems for the long haul, © he’s still figuring out his schedule so he doesn’t wear his back out (something he’s just started getting used to), and (d) have you seen his girlfriend ? :-D
If you’re going to worry about “only” having a week off, remember that he isn’t required to play all 3 playoff events. Take the first week off and get in for Boston and Chicago, then a week off, then the Tour Championship. This isn’t news.
Sorry – if you want honesty, that would be honesty. And if you REALLY want honesty, playing the PGA Tour would be a lot easier on his back than all the sky miles he would be collecting globe trotting.
Again – I don’t care that he chose the Euro Tour – but what’s the point in taking a shot at the US Tour ?
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens." - Ben Stein
Court
I really don’t see how or where he took a shot at the US Tour. He just said it wasn’t for him. As I said, where is the trashing in that?
He said he didn’t want to be around during the FEC
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens." - Ben Stein
and where is that taking a shot ???
"If it doesn't work, you are trying to hard."
http://twitter.com/Roy_Ko
Jim Brighters
Doesn’t put a bean into the game, a little constructive critism can go a long way if adheared, so the kids said he feels lonely, so what? So the kid decided he wants to play at home, so what? He is not the only kid saying that, even the bigger kid like the current world number 1 is saying that he wants to play at home. Brighters doesn’t pay for them to play…
"If it doesn't work, you are trying to hard."
http://twitter.com/Roy_Ko
If you read the whole article, I think you will get the tone that his criticism of haughtiness is leveled at a number of players, not just Rory McIlroy.
by Charles Boyer on Nov 10, 2010 7:34 AM EST up reply actions
I did OMP
but your post had the Rory bit front and centre. I feel the same way about the rest of the Euros who are supporting the Tour that has fostered them and empathising with those who want to stay with friends and family as well as familiar surrounds.
I also think that the time has passed, that for players to be recognised as world class, requires them playing the US Tour full time.
To me, the issue isn’t Euro members playing on the Euro tour; it is Euro players trashing the US tour during their explanations.
I get it, you don’t want to play the Fed Ex Cup playoffs. You don’t want to be forced to play 15 events (although 13 Euro events seems much more easy to swallow). But how hard it is to say something like this ‘the Euro tour is home to me and where I want to spend my time.’ I’m not asking for Lee Westwood to give America a tounge bath, but the backhands Westwood and McIlroy gave the US tour speak to a subtle lack of self esteem for their choice to be based in Europe.
by TwoNuse on Nov 10, 2010 8:39 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Excellent point on the ease of the Euro Tour schedule – “having” to play a whole 13 tournament schedule – wow – that’s rough. That’s 4 fewer than the “spoiled” PGA Tour guys have to play. The top Euorpeans already have 8 weeks of the year spoken for with the WGC’s and Majors. How do they manage to find 5 whole weeks in the other 44 of the year to get in their required tournaments ? If they don’t want to travel around the world, they can wait for summer and play in the UK and Spain to fill out their dance card. “HAVE to” travel around the world ? Doesn’t add up. The bottom guys – yes – the top guys – not so much.
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens." - Ben Stein
Have a piece of red meat court...:)
You taking this too personaly, God Bless America and all, and I am a great fan of the USA PGA and its system of creating superb battle grounds for competative pro golf, but man get out the box, the world is growing and in the near future American players are going to join other tours and visa versa, all in all its just going to be good for the game…
"If it doesn't work, you are trying to hard."
http://twitter.com/Roy_Ko
2 fewer Court.
US is 15 and the Euro 13. Check out the the field for last week and the next three. It’s full of the top Euro players. Spain to China, then Singapore, then Hong Kong and finally Dubai. This is more than a month since most of the top US players packed it in for the year.
Thank you for making my point for me. Rory was whining about being too tired to play the FEC (even though he wasn’t actually in the FEC – but now he’s going to put up tens of thousands of air miles, not to mention crossing all kinds of time zones…to do what ? The exact same thing he would have been doing as a PGA Tour player in the FEC.
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens." - Ben Stein
Not if he was playing the rest of the Euro events, as he is.
“The FedEx Cup is only about money and you shouldn’t just be going over to play thinking about how much you can make,” said McIlroy in several European news outlets. “I needed a break after the US PGA [Championship], but had only one week. There is no flexibility in your schedule as the FedEx forces you to appear at those events. I didn’t like that.”
by chip n'putt on Nov 10, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
ok – so now he’s on a humanitarian mission ? give me a break.
he’s a professional golfer – professional golfers play for…wait for it….MONEY ! He is flying around the world building position for….wait for it…The Race to Dubai….where he can…what ?…..get a really big CHECK if he wins it.
No – as a player, you don’t think about dollars, you think about performance – but if there wasn’t a nice check at the end of the week, he’d be doing something else for a living.
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens." - Ben Stein
Court...
Please point to me where westoowd and Rory trashed the PGA?
"If it doesn't work, you are trying to hard."
http://twitter.com/Roy_Ko
both used the FEC as their excuse for not wanting to play full time on the PGA Tour. It was a really dumb argument since they aren’t required to play the FEC – and as professional golfers, they would have to be really stupid to say “gee, I don’t want to have to play four tournaments and be treated like royalty for four weeks for really big bucks”.
It just makes no sense. So much for honestly.
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens." - Ben Stein
Excuse?
Why do they need an excuse? They can play pretty much as many events as they want without being members. Why do they need an excuse. They were giving reasons. nothing else.
by chip n'putt on Nov 10, 2010 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
EXACTLY !!!!! Now you’re catching on !!!!! Sheesh. This is too much work to help you figure it out on your own. :-D
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens." - Ben Stein
lol..court
You taking a patriotic pounding today…
"If it doesn't work, you are trying to hard."
http://twitter.com/Roy_Ko
And thats..
Trashing the PGA how?? Should they run and wag their tails like good little puppies to please the talentless Journalists?? These guys, albeit there ammassed fortunes, worked hard and sacraficed much in family life to get there worht, and respect. ..IMO..they have earned the right to be opinionated, and it was not spitting trash…
"If it doesn't work, you are trying to hard."
http://twitter.com/Roy_Ko
He’s doing what he feels is best for him. He doesn’t like the Fedex, he wants to support his own Tour and he wants to live in Ireland, not Scotsdale. I really can’t see the problem with this and I still fail to see how he trashed the US Tour by anything he said.
by chip n'putt on Nov 10, 2010 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
Fine – then say that and let it go. He started to say it, and finished with a cheap shot at the Tour that is financing most of his bank account with three majors and three WGC’s and The Players, and whichever other tournaments he wants to play in the US.
Nobody has had a problem with him chosing the Euro Tour.
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens." - Ben Stein
Again Court
show me the cheap shot. He did say it and rather succinctly too. It seems that others are the one’s who don’t want to let it go.
by chip n'putt on Nov 10, 2010 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
He pointed at the FEC – 4 tournaments – as his reason not to play the PGA Tour – and then turned around to globe trot to do exactly the same thing he said he didn’t want to do in the US (with a lot less travel involved).
Stinks of hypocrisy.
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens." - Ben Stein
Court...
Spondor Rory a green card, explain to himt he advantages of Florida climate compared to Ireland, tell Bubba to invite him to a good BBQ and give him a big hug and this will all go away…
"If it doesn't work, you are trying to hard."
http://twitter.com/Roy_Ko
LOL – he probably would…especially if Rory brings the beer.
So now lets have some real fun – and take some shots at Brighters (which is where I started with this whole thing)…
Read this article from Sean O’Shea in the Irish Central on the 8th…
Yes, McIlroy said it wrong to Brighters – but he got it right in Ireland.
AND, most of all, I was right – he really wanted to be with the girlfriend. :-)
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens." - Ben Stein
so apologise...
To the lad and lets move on…
"If it doesn't work, you are trying to hard."
http://twitter.com/Roy_Ko
why ? he said it wrong to the US “journalist”, but got it right with the Irish writer (who might also have bought a pint just because he’s a nice guy).
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens." - Ben Stein
maybe...
The US Journalist wrote it wrong? Course being missquoted never happens, does it?
"If it doesn't work, you are trying to hard."
http://twitter.com/Roy_Ko
more like spun it the wrong way…on purpose. American “journalists” aren’t what they used to be. It’s all about making a big splash and getting their name recognized these days.
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens." - Ben Stein
then apologise...
To the lad for yer accusations..
"If it doesn't work, you are trying to hard."
http://twitter.com/Roy_Ko
probably not a pit bull, eh ? :-D
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens." - Ben Stein
Definitely not eh..
Cheers both of you. I’m off to count some sheep.
by chip n'putt on Nov 10, 2010 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
WHAT ARE WE MISSIN
here ?…2 dogs ?..whose ? and didn’t ya see how cute them puppys was?…jist melt a persons heart they would….STUB
Rory has 2 dogs
BTW it has been duly noted here that ex-President Bush carried his Welsh terrier to safety whilst just whistling for his English Springer to follow him. Sound familiar? Joke, honest!
Whoa gal...is you callin that healty young thing
he’s hooked up with a DOG ? Men i think it’s time we took up arms….STUB
Hypocrisy...
C’mon Court. Read the quote again. No hypocrisy, no trashing of the Tour, just a player who wants to go in another direction and can.
by chip n'putt on Nov 10, 2010 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
Small point, Court
but the Race to Dubai replaced the European Order of Merit, i.e. makes No. 1 player on Euro Tour. Fedex (which I thank heaven for ‘cos it gives me some excellent golf) doesn’t give us the No.1 on PGA Tour – just the Fedex Cup winner.
Race to dubai
Is more level in its standings than FEC. You realyhave to win throughout the year at least more than once
"If it doesn't work, you are trying to hard."
http://twitter.com/Roy_Ko
I was trying to make the point
that whilst the money is fantastic for winning either, the RTD gives a player the title of No. 1 on European Tour, which I think has been overlooked in this squabble. The FEC can still be tweaked – I’m a fan simply because it gives me more tournaments to watch with great fields.
The Race to Dubai is a marketing tool for the European Tour, and a tournament with an extra prize.
The Order of Merit used to be what is now called The Money List. (I prefer Order of Merit – much better name)
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens." - Ben Stein
And FEC..???
Is just a family pack meal???
"If it doesn't work, you are trying to hard."
http://twitter.com/Roy_Ko
the FEC has nothing to do with the Euro Tour or the RtD…except that the RtD is a copy of the FEC.
Of COURSE the FEC is about marketing. Fed Ex is sponsoring it to make money.
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens." - Ben Stein
Duh...
But is it good for golf??
"If it doesn't work, you are trying to hard."
http://twitter.com/Roy_Ko
Duh.....Some visionary you are.....
you should be answering the questions, not asking.
What am I thinking???…….:)
The Saints ARE the SUPER BOWL CHAMPS....WHO DAT!
that u need another cup of coffee…
"If it doesn't work, you are trying to hard."
http://twitter.com/Roy_Ko
Noooooo......I don't drink coffee,
never have, but maybe you can tell me if I ever will…….:0
The Saints ARE the SUPER BOWL CHAMPS....WHO DAT!
Ok – “good for golf” is one of the dumbest phrases going around these days. It’s right up there with “it’s for the CCHHIIIIIIIiiiiiiiiiiiillldddreeeennnn”.
Golf is golf – the PGA Tour is professional golf…..it is a business. Golf is bigger than any of these tours and it will continue even if these professiona tours disappear tomorrow. What will go away to a great extent is the industry of golf. Instead of spending millions on sponsorships, manufacturers will spend money advertising and dealing with the rest of us instead.
Enough of that rant.
Is it good for the PGA Tour ? Of COURSE it is ! It brings in millions of dollars for the players – it gets the top guys on the course for 4 tournaments in 5 weeks – and yes, Fed Ex gets to blast its name all over the place to make their millions back and then some.
And the same arguments go for the RtD
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens." - Ben Stein
let me
Remind you that Enron, GM, etc etc used to be big and didn’t realy care much …or listen much…In the end, the sponsors and players are going to dictate, not the Tours
"If it doesn't work, you are trying to hard."
http://twitter.com/Roy_Ko
GM ? How are you fitting them in here ? GM was overrun by unions and eventually pushed under by President Barry. They were given no choice in how their company was run.
Enron ate itself alive from the inside – then started feeding on clients.
“The Tour” is a group of people employed to keep sponsors lined up for the players. If the players want to make a change – they’ll do it.
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens." - Ben Stein
only since I got lasik ! :-)
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens." - Ben Stein
The RtD
is not even close to a copy of the Fedex. The RtD is a culmination of the season, just as the Players used to be on the US Tour. The Fedex is a four tournament dash for cash.
by chip n'putt on Nov 11, 2010 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
'Scuse me, but
did I interrupt something ladies?
by chip n'putt on Nov 11, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
Naw.....just Royko keeps
calling me “em dear”……which worries me. You think he’s hitting on me? Should my wife be worried…..lol
The Saints ARE the SUPER BOWL CHAMPS....WHO DAT!
CnP – you couldn’t be more wrong. The Players was never the culmination of the season. Back then, there was no end of the season.
The FEC is a “dash for cash” only if you ignore the golf. The players do make a lot of money, but that’s what it took to get all the top guys on the course for a big finish to the season.
Why do you care how much money is on the table ? It’s not your money from the sponsors.
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens." - Ben Stein
Baaaa...
and we keep being led like sheep…
"If it doesn't work, you are trying to hard."
http://twitter.com/Roy_Ko
Oh – and RtD is exactly a copy of the FEC. The guys compete across the season for the money list so they can play in the final tournament and collect a big bonus check. Hmm…sound familiar ? Just because it’s a country (that is on the brink of bankruptcy) and not a company, that makes it a great thing…right ? I guess you also need to be reminded that the RtD bonus is 1 tenth what it was last year. So because it’s “only” a million dollars this year, everything is better.
Need more proof ? Ask yourself where the Tour offices are – and it ain’t the UK anymore.
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens." - Ben Stein
The money has been reduced from 10 million to 7.5. The fedex is over four tournaments, Dubai is the culmination of the season and just one tournament. Basically the old OOM. Not even close to the Fedex.
by chip n'putt on Nov 11, 2010 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
ok – the PGA Tour guys acrue points over the year to get into the playoffs and advance. We have three big tournaments then the Tour Championship.
The Tour Championship is the end of the season. The Fall series are leftover tournaments from the schedule change a few years ago and are kept alive by the sponsors for marketing – and they hope to move into regular season slots as they open up.
po-tay-to…po-tah-to
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens." - Ben Stein
then again, if you’re from the deep south (where you definitely DON’T call the locals “yanks”), it’s taters and maters. :-)
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens." - Ben Stein
I knew you would say that! If you have that funny accent, then you’re a Yank. Apologies to those below the Mason Dixon Line, but if it walks like a duck and most importantly, talks like a duck, then it’s probably not a pit bull.
Woof!
lots of accents over here – but we had that nasty “war between the states” a while back
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens." - Ben Stein
I cepted yur apology onest, but jist remember ths THE SOUTH SHALL RISE AGIN
and ya gotta admits them was such cute cuddly (like me) puppies…STUB
I'm not knocking
the Fedex, hell I love it that I get to see the best of the best play for another month. I am saying though, that the RtD is nothing like the Fedex in it’s makeup.
by chip n'putt on Nov 11, 2010 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
what’s that ? The Euro Tour guys are wearing makeup ? :-)
no – there is no silly points system – and the season acts as the playoffs – but you get the same effect – the top players are turning out for the last few events of the year – gaining position for the bonus check.
EXACTLY the same.
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens." - Ben Stein
OK
now we’re both splitting hairs. No silly point system and one tournament instead of four, but it’s “exactly the same”.
Truce. I’d call you dear, but Em might get the hump if I do!
by chip n'putt on Nov 11, 2010 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
I’ll leave that “hump” part to you (lol)
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens." - Ben Stein
SOMANAGUN !! That sweet thang is
callin EM DEAR…she never called me DEAR… I is really hurt now, OH SOB, OH SOB….STUB
They are not trashing....
They are making career decisions and critisisng the fedEx system that keeps them away from creating an annual schedule. IMO…The fedEx is control freak system that isnt helping.
These players ..IMO..have earned the right to critise what they believe is not productive…
"If it doesn't work, you are trying to hard."
http://twitter.com/Roy_Ko
Nobody is getting on them for saying that they prefer to play on the European Tour. Good for them !
Just how is the FEC not productive ? It puts a huge focus on the PGA Tour for 5 weeks, and the players get a chance to play for really big bucks for doing what they do week in and week out. Wow. Break out the whips and chains.
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens." - Ben Stein
These players ..IMO..have earned the right to critise what they believe is not productive…
He has the right, but it is pretty rude.
The US PGA tour has indirectly put a lot of money in the pockets fo McIlroy and Westwood. In 2011, they will both play on the US Tour as their schedules allow (which I fully support is their right). The least they can do is not critise the same entity that is partially enriching them, especially considering how easy it is to merely say ‘I like it here on the European Tour’ and leave it at that.
Plus, their shots at the FedEx system may take money out of the pockets of their fellow professionals. Two of the top 10 players in the world saying the playoff system is rubbish (did I use that correctly?) may lead to FedEx to not renew their sponsorship (which might happen anyway) and no one else to pick it up.
indirectly ? :-)
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens." - Ben Stein
Agreed - directly is more accurate
but they are not criticising the US PGA Tour – simply explaining that the ONLY advantage to them becoming members is to play for FEC, which they would rather not do. Shouldn’t you be happy at their absence?
Cmon Tonose!!!!
They on that money fair ’n square…lol you being patronising ith that post
"If it doesn't work, you are trying to hard."
http://twitter.com/Roy_Ko
Both won tournaments by the sweat of their respective brows...
but the venue, purse and infrastructure were set up by the US PGA Tour. If the tour doesn’t exist, there is no St. Jude Classic for Westwood to win (with the $1 million + check) and no Wells Fargo Championship for McIlroy to win (with the $1 million + check).
Both players have profited, both financially and status wise, from the experience of working with the US tour. What gain is there for either to take shots?
Shots??? No one took shots...
"If it doesn't work, you are trying to hard."
http://twitter.com/Roy_Ko
Ironicaly...
The best golf this year, from a spectators point of view. for me that is, was the US fall season..I found the FEC a bit too much like a casino… and Court…IMO
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The FEC has too many permutations, that is, too much for the average fan to keep up with. It’s like a bastard child of the NASCAR points race and the NFL playoffs. No one would possibly understand it if there weren’t constant calculations being displayed on the screen and mentioned by announcers in the run up to and during the so-called “playoffs.”
In other words, it is a nice idea because it puts a focus on late summer / early fall golf that wasn’t there before, but its execution leaves far too much to be desired.
by Charles Boyer on Nov 10, 2010 9:29 AM EST up reply actions
lol – NASCAR is a lot easier than the FEC. They do it the smart way – the top guys in the chase are running a race within a race. If they wreck or their car breaks down, they still put on the tires and fill the gas tank the next week. (of course, they’re only on the course 3 or 4 hours each week and not four days of the week)
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens." - Ben Stein
like a casino ? what does that mean ? It’s a simple points system.
personally, I don’t give a rat’s behind about the FEC – except that it puts the top guys on the line for 4 weeks.
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens." - Ben Stein
nott hat simple...
If it was then Ernie, who lead the whole year just had to make top ten in playoffs, and he did, but sadly the casino system of changing the points for playoff made it a gamble…
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Vijay, not Ernie – he also had to finish The Tour Championship. If he had DQ’d or WD’d, he wouldn’t have won the FEC. (I know – picky, but true) They also fixed that for the last two years.
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens." - Ben Stein
Fixed it???
Seems they pricked it and ithas another hole
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Fixed it???
Seems they pricked it and ithas another hole
"If it doesn't work, you are trying to hard."
http://twitter.com/Roy_Ko
the last two years, all 30 players had a mathematical shot at winning the FEC. Yes, it is still slanted towards the top guys who EARNED the advantage – but everybody in the Tour Championship has a chance. That wasn’t true the two years before.
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens." - Ben Stein
what I think the Euopean golfers are afraid of is...
If they ammass sufficent points toards the FEC, that their sponsors ill force them to stay and play and they don’t want to be dictated to too much…Court…IMO…
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Now that’s a real stretch. You think a sponsor will “force” a player to play somewhere in the US, but everywhere else in the world the sponsors are just swell people and would never think of doing something like that because, except for in America, the rest of the world is just hugging and holding hands ? Wow.
What makes you think a sponsor for a Euro Tour player doesn’t do the same thing ?
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens." - Ben Stein
Just giving a chicken and egg thing again...
Theres alays another angle to a decision..e just lowwly fans and don’t know the ins and outs of a decision by a pro…
"If it doesn't work, you are trying to hard."
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Just giving a chicken and egg thing again...
Theres alays another angle to a decision..e just lowwly fans and don’t know the ins and outs of a decision by a pro…
"If it doesn't work, you are trying to hard."
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