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Should We Expect Shorter Careers from LPGA Players?

It's been an odd year or so for the LPGA Tour. There has been a big transition from dominating players - Annika Sorenstam, followed by the now-retired Lorena Ochoa - to a level of parity that could be very good for the tour. The schedule is leaner, filled with limited-field events that are a problem for the rank-and-file.

The combination has made it more difficult to earn and maintain a LPGA Tour card from year to year. It may also lead to drastically shorter careers which mirror that of Lorena Ochoa than of Juli Inkster. LPGA Player Executive Committee President Michelle Ellis, 34, spoke of what she sees as smaller career windows for the ladies.

“We’re certainly not going to see the Juli Inksters or Meg Mallons,” she says. “The competition is getting so tough and the endurance it takes to play at that level is a lot tougher."

“You’re going to have shorter careers. You’re going to have more of the Annikas, the Lorenas bowing out a little earlier. The money is bigger, one, but two, just to keep up that competitiveness, more that amount of years, is a little more straining. It’s sad that we’re not going to have those long careers."

That can make some sense, sure. Frankly, though, typically less than 15 ladies on Tour make into the seven figures each year. To do that over a ten or fifteen year career sounds nice - and very profitable - but there are scores of athletes who have made tons more in other sports and wind up bankrupt because of their fiscal irresponsibility. It doesn't sound all that assuring, really.

Another question I have is if this phenomenon would happen in women's golf - where the money is one-sixth that of their male counterparts on the PGA Tour - why hasn't it happened in men's golf? Tiger's not going away after this year. Even pre-divorce Tiger wasn't. (Not just for the money, but primarily Jack's record.) Even on a different level, Phil Mickelson isn't closing up shop to repair broken golf clubs in Callaway commercials. So why the women? Presumably, it would be to raise a family, but many women have played at the highest level, gotten pregnant, had kids, and come back to resume their careers successfully. 

It doesn't strike me that there appears to be a real answer here, or that Ochoa and Sorenstam are not isolated cases. But, indulge me for a second and think about the impact the Champions Tour has on male players. If they play well, get into the top 70 in career PGA Tour earnings, and make it to 50, they're on that Tour for a nearly guaranteed fifteen years of no cut golfing action. The lure of free money - and the absolutely killer PGA Tour pension plan - could be enough to sustain PGA Tour players' desires to play much longer than they might otherwise have.

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I feel that shorter LPGA careers are unavoidable.

However I wonder if it has more to do with a woman’s desire to start a family or persue other business opportunities (as both Annika and Lorena did) than fiscial responsibility.

Then again… I suppose all three could be related?

Adam Fonseca

by Adam Fonseca on Oct 18, 2010 1:01 PM EDT reply actions  

one other factor

It’s been real hard for the new moms on tour to make like Juli Inkster. If Mi Hyun Kim (8 LPGA wins) and Hee Won Han (6 wins) are having a hard time even making top 10s as moms, what hope do those with fewer pre-pregnancy wins have?

Since child-rearing responsibilities traditionally fall harder on women, it would make sense that those who struggled to be top 50 players before having children would struggle to keep their cards and that those used to winning would struggle to get back in contention regularly. What makes this different than coming back from a big injury is that the work and time required to get back in competitive shape and form takes you away from a really cute, really demanding little person. Even in the most egalitarian of marriages—even families that change everything to accommodate mom’s career—think of the pressure to perform on the new mom, on top of everything else.

And think how many talented teenage girls there are around the world who are this close to being world-class.

I’m not saying it can’t be done. I’m just saying it’ll get harder and harder to do it to the new mom’s level of expectations (whatever they may be—making a living, winning tournaments, fighting for the Hall of Fame….).

by The Constructivist on Oct 18, 2010 1:23 PM EDT reply actions  

evidence

Think how motherhood affected the 3-to-6-time winners on the LPGA I discuss in my pre-season assessment of their likelihood of returning to the winner’s circle:

http://mlyhlss.blogspot.com/2010/01/best-on-lpga-3-to-6-time-winners.html

And check my right sidebar for my most current ranking/assessment.

by The Constructivist on Oct 18, 2010 1:26 PM EDT reply actions  

The men have wives!!

There are not really that many women who have played at the highest level, raised families, and resumed successful careers. I don’t see why this is a sad, or a problem, or in any way restricted to golf. To me it seems pretty good that these ladies have a successful career, get married, raise families, and then turn their hands to a second career which doesn’t involve all the travel/pratice, w/es away from home, etc. That’s probably as close to “having it all” as we can get. They’re probably more rounded people as well. Otherwise, you make the decision to be single-minded & eschew marriage – or at least children, to reach & stay at the top for longer. That’s reality.

by WendyUK on Oct 18, 2010 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Ryan throws in some apples

to (the pga tour) go with these oranges….Let’s put Motherhood aside for just a moment…..Let’s go to motivation…..Women are motivated differently than men…Men are conditioned to go work…women to nurture….Sure, the men have everything going for them….Look at the old traveling salesman…..did it for 20 years and no one compolained….now, if a person is on the road for 2 weeks at a time, his back home existance suffers…Married, single, makes no difference….Women, also physicallly are not atuned to the traveling life….Sure, they do it, but look at all the baggage they carry with them….Clothes, etc….Give a guy a couple of wash and wear outfits, he can go anywhere….not a woman….Hell, for a woman to make a fast trip to the store to get a jug of milk, entails 2-3 hrs of making up….Gawd forbid someone should see her at 5 in the morning without her makeup on….Wendy is absolutely right….there is no problem…Take a poll…ask the women what they want out of their life and the different answers might surprise you….jist sayin….STUB

by thinker on Oct 18, 2010 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL stubbo

I’m on the road about 28 weeks a year, between tournaments, charity events, promo’s, etc etc. I don’t believe it effects my home life at all, but it sure does pay the bills. I think times have changed a lot in the business world and people today have to be a lot more creative to make a good living these days. BTW Stubbo, I have 7 woman that work for me “On the Road” on a regular basis and all are physically and mentaly atuned to the traveling and they all love what they do.

"pain is only weakness leaving the body"

by progolf on Oct 18, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jump...your the old salesman I alluded to. and how many of those 28 weeks

does your GF go with ;you ? Today, young guys have different motavations….Also, if married, with kids, the wife wants them home..and your correct….the times that changed, and the tech advances have made the difference…The fact you have these women in a happy state says wonders for you as an employer….I do think this is also the exception and not the rule….but hey, as long as I can get one of those long limbed lovelies to build my Martinis and light cigars….who am I to complain ? STUB

by thinker on Oct 18, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stubbo, She only tags along....

at the Players Championship, Quail Hollow, The Memorial and the US OPEN as she runs her own business and does a fair amount of traveling herself. Two of the 7 woman that work/travel for me are married and none of them have children so I imagine that helps quite a bit. I appreciate the compliment and will accept it humbly, but truth be known that each person that applies to work here is told in their first interview that travel makes up 50% of their employment and whining is never an option. I have yet to lose an employee due to them being unhappy with the position and all have been with me for 4 years or more. My honest assesment is that the woman have more patience than men with travel.

"pain is only weakness leaving the body"

by progolf on Oct 18, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the non-golfing differences here are really what make the gap. I think that’s probably the most potent factor – the male/female dynamic of child rearing makes a longer career harder for a female pro golfer.

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by Ryan Ballengee on Oct 18, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't totally agree with you re motivation, conditioning, STUB.

In my previous incarnation I knew many women who were totally dedicated to reaching the top. They thrived on the challenges and love the international travel, etc. With one or two exceptions, however, they did not have children. Going on a week’s business trip to USA or China at the drop of a hat leaving young children/working a 70 hr+ week is pretty difficult even with the best of home help.

I do agree with you that perhaps women might give a greater variety of answers to what they want to achieve from life.

I was conditioned to work (my mother did so all her life, being a single mother having no choice). I too loved the business world, but in the end l was happy to be the equivalent of a journeyman golfer, despite being pressured to be fast-tracked, as I wanted more balance to my life. I do think (maybe wrong) that more men judge their success by their wealth than women do.

by WendyUK on Oct 18, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm so glad to see...

that all my WR friends are such staunch supporters of stereotypes.

"(I)f you think you've got an inside track to absolute truth, you become doctrinaire, humorless and intellectually constipated." Saul Alinsky

by dianemarie on Oct 18, 2010 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

heh

Is that really a surprise, Wendy?

by The Constructivist on Oct 18, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh heh--yeesh

I meant, Diane! But you know what they say about women online…. ;)

by The Constructivist on Oct 18, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apart from accually having the baby

A woman’s golf career is the same. But having that baby is a big thing, and makes a huge difference. Take tennis. Most of the best players had their babies after they retired, or not at all. Inkster , in golf, is an exception. Men have it easy, in this discussion anyway. BRB, just have to do the dishes :)

by Easingwold on Oct 18, 2010 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

LMAO

Please make sure you get them ALL clean this time. 8-)

"(I)f you think you've got an inside track to absolute truth, you become doctrinaire, humorless and intellectually constipated." Saul Alinsky

by dianemarie on Oct 18, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOLOLOL

I just got this visual of Easing being in one of those dish washing soap commercials singing and dancing around the kitchen. hahahaha sorry brother I had to go there, it’s been a rough day.

"pain is only weakness leaving the body"

by progolf on Oct 18, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Jump...can't you see him

with a pint in one hand and FAIRY LIQUID (on my gawd, my sides hurt) in the other facing the camera and talking to the ladies ? Sorry Ease….just too much……STUB

by thinker on Oct 18, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hands as soft as your face, Easing ;o)

Fibber. I know she bought you a dishwasher for your birthday.

by WendyUK on Oct 18, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hate dishwashers !

I enjoy cooking and washing up doesn’t bother me, lol. But I leave them in the dishrack…cleaner that way ! I use fairy liquid and don’t wear a pinnie, it wouldn’t look right on my 15 stone frame :)

by Easingwold on Oct 18, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another pair of Marigolds for Xmas then?

Re dishwasher – at least it avoids arguments about how to stack them!

by WendyUK on Oct 18, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK...Marigolds in the gud ol US of A is flowers

what are they in that foreign language you speak ?….STUB

by thinker on Oct 18, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol..

only glove I use is a Footjoy on the left hand, cheeky :)

by Easingwold on Oct 18, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't start if it's pouring with rain (not competition)

but if already on the golf course – what the heck. No doubt resemble Womble in my weather gear, but who’s looking?!

Best short game for a couple of years on Friday (not deterred by a couple of blow-up holes ruining score). This is how golf gets you hooked.

by WendyUK on Oct 18, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Keep going..

79 beckons ! I’m the same…I carry on if it starts raining. I have become the weather reference at work..I always study the weather to see if the rain misses me during a round. One cheeky workmate even calls me Fish…after the unfortunate weather presenter who got caught out by the hurricane in ‘87. My chipping is getting better…79, 81 last 2 rounds…I’m still hooked :)

by Easingwold on Oct 18, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gross score apart

I just need to keep hitting those odd few shots where I think “Wow, I love this game”. One day – because I have played that perfect round in my dreams – all these shots will come together and I will break ………… 80!

by WendyUK on Oct 18, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Before we break out the egg timer for the career of an LPGAer

I’d say the sample size of Sorenstam and Ochoa is too small to make any definitive statements.

by TwoNuse on Oct 18, 2010 4:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, that’s kind of what I’m thinking. But I thought it was worth posing the question.

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by Ryan Ballengee on Oct 18, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

see my list

Motherhood effects everyone, regardless of whether they’re shooting for #1 or just trying to make a living as a pro golfer….

by The Constructivist on Oct 18, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then give us the extensive list of No. 1 female players

who have had families and returned to the top (less than half a dozen) and then compare it to the men who have reached No. 1 then married, had children and returned or continued to top-notch play. I’m just saying it’s bloody difficult, that’s all.

by WendyUK on Oct 18, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Two...yur a stats man

can you take it back about 10-15 years to see what the longevity has been…no need to classify married with children vs single….we just need a sampling…..STUB

by thinker on Oct 18, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are no easy answers

Judy Rankin had 26 victories all after the birth of her son – 1960-1970’s.
Nancy Lopez had 21 of her 48 victories after the birth of first of three daughters and 2 of her 3 majors – 1970-1980’s plus.
Julie Inkster had 18 of 31 victories after birth of first of two daughters and 4 of 7 majors – 1980-1990’s plus.
There are a good number with less distinguished careers that played long careers and had children.

The players that started in the 1950’s & 1960’s – 44% played at least 10 years as best I can tell.
The players that started in the 1970’s – 39.6 % played at least 10 years
The players that started in the 1980’s – 40.4 % played at least 10 years
The players that started in the 1990’s – 33.0 % played at least 10 years
The players that started in the 2000’s – way to early to tell
Part of the difference I believe is due to changes in the requirements to keep their playing privilages, plus increased competition from newer players. Less tournaments is another challenge for those who want a long career.

by tatkins on Oct 19, 2010 12:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks TAT....It kind of validates what I was thinking,

but wasn’t sure of….44%…from the 50’s….And yes, the requirement have changed….Also, we now have players from all over the world….back in the 50’s…how many foreign players ? I don’t buy into the having baby issue…I think it’s more as Wendy said….wanting more balance in the life…How many men today will abandon their own goals to give that whole hearted push to the wife ? I dare say, in the me, me and I, I generations not too many…..IMHO…..STUB

by thinker on Oct 19, 2010 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Only have data on about 100 players from '50s and '60s

and a lot of missing data before 1963. The 44% percent is for players of both decades together and confidence level in the data is not great.

by tatkins on Oct 20, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seems to me that a lot of the shorter careers we’re going to see in the next decade or so are going to be because of deeper competition. A lot of the hangers on will be weeded out, cutting those careers short.

Longer careers among the top players isn’t going to change. Picking a name like Inkster out of the hat is trying to prove a rule by the exception. There will always be top level players who have long careers. It’s the bottom half that is most fluid.

The LPGA isn’t there to be a jobs program – it’s a sports league. Competition is how it works. A lot of these women will choose marriage and family – women have that option. Not many people can do what a small handful of top players do – raising a family and continuing to compete is a tough life.

So yes – the answer is simple on one hand – of course you can expect a lot more shorter competitive careers from women than men.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Oct 19, 2010 6:20 PM EDT reply actions  

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