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Call It a Throwback: Ryan Finally Plays With Those 1965 Golf Clubs

Waggle Room's Ryan Ballengee decided to get a hold of a set of old V-groove clubs to see what all the fuss was about from the pros. Take a look as he works his was through the bag to show you what it is like to hit some throwback clubs. You'll be surprised at the results.

 

I had been talking for some time about wanting to get my hands on some older irons to see for myself how they would perform compared to today's irons.  In part, the trial was inspired by the complaints from players and manufacturers that new clubs - meant to simulate the v grooves in these 1965 irons - would throw off their games.  My second muse was the recent TaylorMade commericals featuring Nick Faldo saying that the new Burner irons were going 25 yards longer than his old irons.

Honestly, I wasn't sure what to expect.  I had been playing the original TaylorMade RAC irons for five or six years now.  I had grown accustomed to them and liked them.  No one had ever put blades in my hand before now, and I had heard that a poor ballstriker would regret making the switch to them.  Given how much the pros complained about the throwback in groove technology, I really was not sure if a 12 handicap like myself would be able to handle the clubs on my first try.

I rolled into the range, took a few practice swings, and got going with the 9 iron - just like I normally would when I practice.  The clubs were an inch shorter than my lengthened RACs, so the first ball was a topper down the range.  Thinking it was an ominous sign, I was worried about how the next ball would go.  It was pure.  Pure and as far as I hit my modern 9 iron.  It felt great and I got great feedback from the club.

I gingerly moved my way through the bag.  7 iron and 4 iron went well.  Almost too well.  They were perfect.  Actually, they were better than my RAC irons.  Obviously, this was a small sample size, but I was getting concerned that everything I had ever been told about technology was not true.

Then, I decided to go for the 2 iron.  I had never hit a 2 iron before and they're practically extinct on Tour now.  I can remember trying to hit a 1 iron when I was younger and it being a traumatizing experience.  The blade was so thin and my contact so poor that I thought I would never handle a club like that again.  Though the 2 iron was not nearly as daunting, I still was anxious. 

The first ball was not very good.  But the second, third, fourth, and fifth were excellent - and long.  It was like hitting my hybrid 3 iron.  Great feedback.  Consider my fear of the one and two iron to be vanquished.

Having had my fill of the irons, I took a crack at persimmon four and five woods off of the turf deck.  Having never been much of a fairway wood player, I figured this is where I would meet my match.  Surely, between my lack of skill with the clubs, their protruding screws, and some of the cracking, I was going to fail.

It didn't happen.  I pulled a few, but after adjusting to the shaft flex and weight of the clubs, I was busting the ball better than I may ever have with a metalwood.  Long, straight, and with a beautiful draw.  It was majesty to hear the crack of the wood against the ball and watch it fly into air.

Even the driver had decent length.  The tees at the range were really optimized for today's behemoth woods, but the groovy Wilson Staff driver allowed me to work the ball well and with more than respectable distance.

It wasn't all great.  The poor shots stung my hands in a way that I would never experience with a modern iron.  Shots that were not struck precisely had their flaws magnified tenfold over what I would see with my 21st century equipment.  Still, the great shots - more of those than lousy ones - did not leave me longing for my RAC irons.  They had me excited to play a complete round with my throwbacks.

So, that's what I'm going to do.  I'm going to keep them in the bag for a little while and see how I do with them.  And I'll report back with how it all turns out next.

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first things first – NO more West Virginia jokes for you, young man. Barefoot at the range ? :-D

suggestion – if you don’t have something to do this at home – go to your local club repair guy and have him check loft, lie, and length for both sets of clubs. You’re going to find that those 1965 clubs are at least a club weaker and shorter than your ‘03 TM’s. Make sure you’re comparing apples with apples instead of just the number on the bottom of the club.

you’re pretty much right on the performance of 1965 blades compared to…well…pretty much any era’s blades. They are blades – tiny sweet spots that really jump when you hit them well, but it’s easy to get off center. (which will make you appreciate players like Tiger Woods and others who play classic blades instead of modern game improvement blades or even more high tech irons)

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Aug 12, 2009 3:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, the next steps is going to have some regripping done, a little clean up, and checking out everything about the club. I’m pretty sure that there is a club difference between today and yesteryear, but want to make certain.

Email me any comments or questions at ryan@thegolfnewsnet.com.

by Ryan Ballengee on Aug 12, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting you mention that, CG.

Earlier this afternoon I had a bag full of clothes to drop off at a local charity / thrift store. While I was there I looked at their selection of golf clubs, which nearly fill two full-size metal garbage cans. (I’m still hoping that in one of these forays God will reunite me with my fugitive 9-iron. Ha.)

Just looking down at the irons at address one can see significantly more loft than in contemporary irons. For instance, a Spalding 9-iron (looked to be late 60s-early 70s vintage) appeared to my eye to be at least as lofted as my 2002 PW – perhaps even more so.

To RB: I’m looking forward to your post after having played a full round with these things. Given that the aforementioned thrift sells clubs for about a buck a pop, I can pick up a whole set for around $15 and it might be worth doing just for the hell of it. I don’t think I have the balls to try the longer irons, but I’ve hit some old-school bladed wedges before and there’s definitely something to said for the feeling and feedback.

"Golf is a game whose aim is to hit a very small ball into a even smaller hole, with weapons singularly ill-designed for the purpose." - Winston Churchill

by turnover on Aug 13, 2009 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh – and pick up a sleeve or three of the softest, spinniest urythane cover balls your can find. remember – they were playing balata back then and the balls were softer than what we play today.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Aug 12, 2009 3:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Curiously enough, I did have a few balatas in the range balls. I looked for ’em cause I know this range still has them. Still jumped pretty well!

Email me any comments or questions at ryan@thegolfnewsnet.com.

by Ryan Ballengee on Aug 12, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if you found balata balls in the bucket – that is a range to stay a LONG way away from. Those balls are at least 15 years old. Those must be some really worn out balls.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Aug 12, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And on to hickory!

Anyone seen my niblick?

"Golf is a game whose aim is to hit a very small ball into a even smaller hole, with weapons singularly ill-designed for the purpose." - Winston Churchill

by turnover on Aug 13, 2009 12:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I got to play a 9 hole course over in Scotland where they give you old hickory shafted clubs and the guy makes gutta percha balls right at the course. It was an absolute blast. Once we got used to them, we actually played the last few holes pretty well.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Aug 14, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice stuff Ryan. That looks like a load of fun. But yes, were those 1965 shoes as well? Geez, they had it hard back then.

by AussieGolfer on Aug 13, 2009 11:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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