The Starter - 8/11 - Paddy & Tiger Made It Awkward on Sunday
In today's Starter, Ryan takes an opportunity to make a visual case as to why Tiger & Paddy should have been put on the clock by official John Paramor at the Bridgestone Invitational.
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Dude – third person ?? (lol)
You cheated. I pulled up two separate stop watches online. With both watches, you were just over 13 seconds on your 10 second countdown.
Ten seconds can be an eternity – if you’re sitting around waiting on something. But in motion, 10 seconds can seem like a flash. Try watching the Olympic 100 meter dash – it’s over before you know it. Golfers may not move fast, but they are in motion.
Something else to consider – Tiger was in trouble more often than Harrington on Sunday. Heis a glacier when sizing up his shots to get out of trouble.
I still agree with you that technically, they should have been put on the clock – and it IS interesting that the Tour (even though it was a Euro Tour official) wasn’t afraid to put #1 on the clock in a big situation (he had just lost the lead) – but considering the situation, it might have been better left alone.
And now for something completely different – what is that picture on the wall ?
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
by courtgolf on Aug 11, 2009 10:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess my count of 10 Mississippis didn’t pan out to 10 real seconds :)
The blame definitely lies on both of them, not just Paddy for the glacial pace.
The pic, interestingly enough, is a cityscape of Dublin!
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by Ryan Ballengee on Aug 11, 2009 11:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice picture !
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
by courtgolf on Aug 11, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a hard time getting mad at a group – especially in that situation – for being a shot or a shot and a half out of place. Generally, on the first tee, usually a par 4, the group ahead is on the green when the next group is announced to hit their tee shots. If someone in the group ahead sprays one shot, it can throw off the rest of the day.
Sergio’s season of regripping was ridiculous. Ben Crane was slow enough to cause Sabattini to lose his mind and play ahead. (I applauded him that day)
I don’t know where the 18 minute figure comes from. Even with the 16th hole adventure with Paddy walking back 90 yards around the lake to play his 6th shot – and the ruling at 18, they finished in time for handshakes and the CBS crew to make a few ridiculous comments. If they were behind 18 minutes after 15, how far were they supposed to be after 16 ? CBS focused almost exclusively on Woods and Harrington with a random shot or two just for fun – but we never got a view of where the next to last group was in front of the last group.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
by courtgolf on Aug 11, 2009 12:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Paramor said to Paddy/Woods that they were 18 mins behind. I guess he got that from his own watch. With an entire hole open in front of them – a 700 yard hole, no less – I’m assuming that it was that an entire hole was open in front of them that got them on the clock.
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by Ryan Ballengee on Aug 11, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
667 yards – IF it’s played all the way back and the hole all the way back. It’s a par 5 – these guys don’t much care about yardage. They could hit a 750 yard hole in three if they had to.
The 16th had to be completely empty with the next group off the tee at 17 for them to be considered 18 minutes behind. We were never shown the distance between the two groups. If Tiger’s group was truly 18 minutes behind, there has to be a Tour approved time for these groups to play 18 holes. If that time is 4 hours (the last group teed off right about 2pm – the broadcast ended at 6) – they would have to play each hole in an average of 22 minutes.
So I still wonder where Paramor got the 18 minute figure. If slow play is generally eyeballed by the distance between groups – then where was the group in front ? If there is a “Tour approved” time for a round, what is it ?
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
by courtgolf on Aug 11, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There actually is a tour approved time – it’s called Time Par. And it’s printed on the back of the scoresheet. So players know how far they need to be at what time. (Found that one out today.)
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by Ryan Ballengee on Aug 11, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well there you go – now, someone take Mr Paramor’s watch away from him if he’s going to be an official for the last group.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
by courtgolf on Aug 11, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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