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Show Me the Money: Tiger vs. Jack

The One Eyed Golfer must have known that I was going to take him up on his challenge to compare the lifetime earnings of Tiger Woods and Jack Nicklaus.  Basically, he wanted to make a dollar for dollar comparison (in 2009 dollars) of the careers of Jack Nicklaus and Tiger Woods at present.  Remember, Nicklaus had 73 PGA Tour wins with 18 majors titles and Woods stands today with 67 wins and 14 majors.

Rather than go through their entire careers, I decided to go through their victories and make straight up comparisons between the two of tournaments that existed in both Jack and Tiger's playing days.  This way, we don't have to worry about events that no longer exist today or didn't exist back then.

After the jump, you can see the results.

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Before we get to the comparison, let's explain which tournaments are in and which are out because of this assumption.  That stipulation may seemingly knock out the World Golf Championships, which Woods has dominated since their inception.  Woods has 15 WGC victories, which makes for over a fifth of his career PGA Tour wins.  But, likenesses of these events existed in Jack's era.  The CA Championship was the Doral-Eastern Open.  The Bridgestone Invitational was the World Series of Golf.

There are more like comparisons between tournaments that you may expect.  Prior to THE PLAYERS The Players Championship, the event was known as the Tournament Players Championship.  Jack won his own Memorial Tournament on two occasions.  PGA Tour Playoff events known as The Barclays and BMW Championship were known back in the day (even in Woods' career) as the Westchester Classic and the Western Open. 

Even the less prestigious PGA Tour events of yesteryear share a lot of similarities to the events of today.  The only difference between them may be who played in the event, where it was played, and the lack of corporate sponsors on the tournament name.

I did my best to ensure crossover between the two for a fairly honest comparison, but in a number of cases, equivalents just did not exist.  57 of Jack's 73 victories came in tournaments that still exist today in one fashion or another.  Nine of Woods' 67 wins came in events that did not exist when Jack played.

That said, let's look at the numbers.  Looking strictly at the number of wins, Jack Nicklaus would have 57 victories in events that overlap with Tiger Woods' career.  Woods would have one more win than Jack, though he trails by 6 wins at present.  Using crossover events as the element of comparison really makes most sense.

Now, let's look at the money situation.  Comparing their total money won in victories, Tiger Woods has won $69,944,000 in 58 wins for an average of $1,205,931.  Nicklaus won 57 times to loot $68,606,000 and average $1,203,614 per win.

Tiger Woods has earned less than $2 million more than Jack Nicklaus for his entire career. Nicklaus won his last PGA Tour event at age 46.  Woods is 33.  In other words, Tiger Woods has probably a decade more to extend his lead on Nicklaus in this kind of comparison.

The first thing to look at when making this kind of comparison is the money awarded for each win.  Tiger Woods has won 13 events in his career that currently offer first place prize money below $1 million.  Included in that list is his six Buick Invitational titles.  Nick Watney, winner of this year's event, early $954,000 for his efforts.  Meanwhile, Jack Nicklaus has just one victory in that event.  By comparison, just 10 of Jack's crossover wins would pay him less than a million dollars today.

The World Golf Championships don't really play a significant role in the difference.  Nicklaus won 25 crossover events with a first place check over $1.35 million - the paycheck for the Masters champion.  Woods has 27.

In all reality, the statistics and data when comparing Jack and Tiger's careers are stunning to this point.  They basically have the same number of wins in their career to this point, a similar number of majors, and 2009 dollars.  Woods really is very much a mirror image of his hero.

For the purists and Jack Nicklaus fans, that may seem like blasphemy.  After all, Nicklaus played in an era with less events like World Golf Championships.  He has 6 more wins than Tiger Woods does right now.  He still holds the major championship wins record - albeit by 4 majors.

Fortunately for Jack fans, though, the numbers for Jack's entire career - not just wins - fares very well.  Nicklaus has a huge advantage in major championships.  He has 19 runner up finishes in major championships.  He was on the medal stand 46 times.  Nicklaus boasts 73 major championship top 10 finishes.

In 53 major championship appearances, Woods has 14 wins.  He has finished in the top 10 on thirty occasions.  Woods was the bridesmaid on five different occasions and three times in the last two full seasons.  Woods earned a gold, silver, or bronze 22 times.

But, again, to be equal, let's make it a fair comparison.  Before Nicklaus turned 34 in 1974, he played in 56 majors.  He won 12 of those.  At this point in his career, he had finished in second in a major 11 times - six more than Woods boasts now.  Nicklaus finished 3rd on five other occasions.  Nicklaus may have won fewer majors, but he finished higher more often than Woods.

And, oh yeah, Nicklaus won majors when trailing after 54 holes.

So, if you were hoping that this article would settle the debate about Jack and Tiger, think again.  It will continue to rage on even if Woods surpasses Nicklaus' mark of 18 wins.

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what did you do with tournaments that Nicklaus won that don’t exist anymore ?

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Jun 8, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I awarded Jack the amount for the win equivalent to the lowest amount given to a PGA Tour player this season – Pat Perez’s $918K from the Bob Hope. He would have $80.4 million in total compared to Woods’ $81.9 million. If I jacked that up even $100K per win, Nicklaus would only get into the $83 million range.

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by Ryan Ballengee on Jun 8, 2009 4:27 PM EDT reply actions  

“ONLY get into the $83 million range” – have your girlfriend smack you on the back of the head for that one, please. (lol)

why did you go with the lowest amount ? I probably would have just transferred the week of the tournament to this season and awarded that money…but that’s probably too arbitrary.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Jun 8, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, I didn’t want to overaward and the $913K won’t be the lowest winning check given this year for a normal event. But, in the interest of fairness, here are the events for which I gave Jack that number:

American Golf Classic
IVB-Philadelphia Golf Classic
Jackie Gleason-Inverrary Classic
Kaiser International Open Invitational
Ohio Kings Island Open
Palm Springs Golf Classic
Philadelphia Golf Classic
Portland Open Invitational
Seattle World’s Fair Open Invitational
Whitemarsh Open Invitational

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by Ryan Ballengee on Jun 8, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

SO – what you’re saying is – a Nicklaus fan could skew the results in his favor – and a Tiger fan could make sure that Jack wasn’t ahead. :-D

I don’t know – that Whitemarsh Open Invitational sounds like it had some big dollars attached to it ! (I guess nobody pointed out that you can’t have an open invitational)

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Jun 8, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, yeah, I thought that one and the World’s Fair event were the funniest ones on that list

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by Ryan Ballengee on Jun 8, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Difficult comparison

This is quite a difficult comparison to make. Especially since Tiger Woods’ mere presence has raised tournament purses since the day he started dominating. Did Jack do the same thing? (I’m asking, not making a point.)

Also, I know Jack had a ton of runner-ups, but I’m hesitant to consider those in something like this because of my instinctual feeling that “second place” is “first loser”. Not that it never matters, but I’m not sold on whether it does here.

by Double Eagle on Jun 8, 2009 5:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Of course he didn’t. Arnold Palmer was king when Nicklaus came on the scene. Remember, when Nicklaus turned pro, he was the fat kid who needed a haircut – he wasn’t liked or respected. It took him a couple of years to become “The Man” – and even then, Palmer and Player were there, then Watson and Miller and the other “next Nicklaus” types. Purses did go up on Nicklaus’ back – but not like they did with Tiger.

When Tiger showed up, there really wasn’t a dominant player on Tour. It was a collection of top players who won when their game came together – Faldo was there, but he was past his peak, and Mickelson was…well…Mickelson.

I know what you mean about second place – but the sheer number of seconds tells you a lot about what kind of competitor Nicklaus was. You either had to beat the man, or, if he wasn’t already on top, he was going to either chase you down to beat you, or barely miss the catch.

I can’t compare Woods with Nicklaus on this – Tiger is always in the top 10 because he’s just that much better than everyone else – but you don’t see him chasing down leaders very often, and you don’t see other guys chasing him down. Is Tiger just that dominant – or was the level of “heart” that much higher in Nicklaus day ?

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Jun 8, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Tiger is always in the top 10 because he’s just that much better than everyone else – but you don’t see him chasing down leaders very often, and you don’t see other guys chasing him down.”

I think the whole deal about Tiger not winning a major from behind is a bad rap. The fact is he IS that good. He’s so good that when he’s on his game, he’s ahead after three rounds, so he doesn’t have to come from behind.

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that two of his biggest come from behind wins - four shots last week, and five shots at Arnie’s event - came during his rehab from injury. He’s still not 100%, so even when he’s playing well, he’s not quite as consistent. Once he’s all the way back, he’ll do what he used to do - either have an off week and not contend at all, or have a good week and be leading after three rounds. Then he cruises in the fourth round, and the other guys have to hit very risky shots to try to catch him, and when they don’t pull them off, they look like they are choking. Maybe a few of them are, but more often they are just trying to hit shots they wouldn’t normally hit, but they have no choice if they want to catch Tiger.

by tonysin on Jun 9, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scary – isn’t it – as long as he doesn’t get bored playing from all those fairways :-)

I still debate the 5 shot come back. Tiger didn’t shoot 5 or 6 under to win that week – he shot 3 under and Johnson backed up.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Jun 10, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would say if we were comparing on the “FedEx Cup” model, then Jack’s 2nd place finishes majors would be a bigger deal. I think it’s a notch in his belt because even if he didn’t win, he got awfully close. That’s better than what Tiger has done to this point in that regard.

But, yeah, this comparison is awfully tough.

Email me any comments or questions at ryan@thegolfnewsnet.com.

by Ryan Ballengee on Jun 8, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you thinking of Sam Snead?

You keep saying Jack has 16 more wins than Tiger, but he doesn’t - he has just six more. Tiger will pass him within a year, maybe even this year.

Maybe you’re thinking of Sam Snead’s record 82 wins. Tiger needs 16 more to break that record, so it might take him two years to do that.

by tonysin on Jun 9, 2009 5:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I just made a dumb adding mistake. I meant 6, not sixteen. Good catch.

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by Ryan Ballengee on Jun 9, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

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