Poll: The Best Golf Analyst in History
John Madden has announced today that he is leaving the booth after 30 years of broadcasting. Madden was one my favorite announcers because he was so goofy, stated the obvious, and made me feel like I knew as much about football as he does. (I don't, clearly.) When he and Pat Summerall were at their prime, that was football commentary at its best. After Al Michaels and Madden teamed together on Mondays and then on Sundays, we had the next best thing.
Madden made the football video game into the amazing thing that it is today. He also created an entire career for a comedian. Frank Caliendo would be nobody were it not for his amazing impression of Madden. Here's a sampling:
Anyway, Madden's retirement (combined with Harry Kalas' passing) made me wonder who the greatest golf analyst ever on TV. This is a pretty broad question, so I'll take you write ins rather than present you with some choices.
I'd like to go wtih Ken Venturi. Seeing him at the the Pebble Beach event made me really appreciate how he was stern, but fair, and very insightful.
Who was your favorite?
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Madden was the best...
…but I’m stunned when people say that all he did was say the obvious. I always look at those people and ask WHEN did he say the obvious ? What made Madden great was that he said the “obvious” BEFORE it happened. He could look at the line and tell you what was coming and where it was going. He watched Ladanian Thomlinson for less than a quarter last season and said the he wasn’t going to have a good year because his foot hadn’t healed – then he showed a couple of close ups of his cuts and foot plants and explained how he could tell what was wrong. Sure – he was goofy and funny – but NOBODY on TV today has anywhere near the understanding and insight of John Madden. He worked best with Summerall because Summerall wasn’t in it for himself. Al Micheals is too self important – they never really fit together. I’m going to miss him.
Hmm – great golf announcers…Johnny Miller ? (JUUUUST KIDDING !!! everybody knows I think he’s the worst) Ken Venturi is on that list, too, especially as he got older. It was sad listening to him get more and more bitter through the years.
Ok – break it down – “announcer” is too broad – there are four main jobs on a golf broadcast – host (Nantz, Dan Hicks, etc), analyst (Miller, Faldo, etc.), on course (Feherty, Rossi, etc), and interviews (Steve Sands, etc.)
Announcer – modern – I enjoy Renton Laidlaw because seems to truly enjoy golf and he lets the game be the game. He never berates players or tries to tell the audience “what the player was thinking.” He is smooth between players and announcers, which is his job. (Dan Hicks could be excellent if he would stop trying to be the analyst – he asks great questions – it’s a shame he’s stuck with Miller)
past – NONE better than Ben Wright. Loved the game and respected the players.
Analyst – easily Faldo. Sure, he occassionally gets “professional” and says things that TV people think he should say to sound important – but for the most part, he is there with the players – he doesn’t berate them or tell how HE would do things.
On course – Feherty is the best, bar none, and 1A is Gary McCord – entertaining and they get things right.
Interviews – Steve Sands is the best. Great sense of humor – and he doesn’t start with “you just won, how do you feel ?” (THE single most idiotic question ever invented)
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
by courtgolf on Apr 16, 2009 3:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I heard Madden for years and couldn't stand him
nor could anyone I know
He was very boring, very obvious, and VERY blabbering at times that didn’t need to be.
by AppleCub on Apr 16, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This one's actually pretty easy for me.
First, I agree with CG’s definition of roles. That said:
Present: Faldo. Wry, humorous, at times self-deprecating, and “with the players”, as CG said above.
Past: I’ve always really liked Peter Alliss. Perhaps he’s still broadcasting with the BBC, but I’ve not heard his voice on this side of the pond for quite awhile.
Funny Peter Alliss:
I was watching a tournament about 10 years ago, just as I was getting into the game. It may have been the Open – I can’t be sure. If it wasn’t the Open, the weather could have fooled you: wet, overcast, winds whipping up sand – and the frustrations of the players.
Alliss said something about the weather conditions playing into some aspect of the English character. When asked by his fellow announcer what aspect that might be, he responded:
“Sssssssssssssstoic.”
Cracked me up.
"Golf is a game whose aim is to hit a very small ball into a even smaller hole, with weapons singularly ill-designed for the purpose." - Winston Churchill
by turnover on Apr 16, 2009 3:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
great call – can’t believe I forgot Peter Alliss ! Glad to hear he’s still calling golf. My favorite story of his was him taking credit for the “Nice putt Alice” that we all use. It really is “Nice putt Alliss” for a time when he just could not get his ball to the hole – he was saying that about himself and it took off.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
by courtgolf on Apr 16, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Faldo
Nice job breaking it down CG.
Announcer: Jim Nantz(cant help it, he’s just smoofe)
Analyst: Faldo (gives Johnny Miller 3 a side)
On Course: Feherty,McCord and Lundquist tie
Interviews: Foltzy( this guy has done it all and very well
not sure if he would want a big network
but surprised he’s not there yet
by baffler231 on Apr 16, 2009 6:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's a damn shame when
I would rather listen to Ben Wright, Peter Alliss & Renton Laidlaw rather than any other announcers on the planet. I really like McCord and Feherty, but after they have gone through their cycle of sayings once, they are mediocre at best. Nantz likes his own voice too much and Miller has gone downhill dramatically in the past 2-3 years. I do like Frank Nobilo. I think day in and day out, he does the ex-pro/announcer the best of the rest…
by One-Eyed Golfer Guy on Apr 16, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh the memories
Interesting topic — many of my years “on” the Tour were colored by the presence of the CBS crew in our life, since I knew them in their most “relaxed” moments. Frank Chirkinian held court at dinner, as the liquids flowed and I sat starving (since I didn’t drink) waiting for the entrees that never came (because they weren’t ordered — although we got to the after dinner brandies somehow).
My former husband did on course analysis for all of the networks (mainly CBS) and for ESPN, both while he was playing the Tour and after he went to work for Ohlmeyer Communications. He developed the first Skins Game on TV.
Venturi was undoubtedly one of the best. But my heart belongs to Ben Wright. I agree with CG. No doubt a lot of my preference was for Ben’s off-course geniality and sense of humor, his intelligence and the fact that no matter how far down the road the dinner libations got, he was a perfect gentleman to me. (Possibly because I once cooked an All-American picnic supper for him and his wife at our house, and he loved that simple, family evening.) Although I did witness a hog-calling contest between Ben and Summerall that emptied a restaurant. In fact, I think that was at the Heritage in Hilton Head…
I was sad to see Ben go. I never experienced any mysogeny coming from him. The CBS guys just got notorious for letting the after-hours attitude into the booth with them.
Venturi bitter? He always had an edge, it seemed. Always impeccable, tall, straight-backed, regal.
McCord has always been a favorite, but he seems under (self) pressure to be wry, witty and the comic.
Nick Faldo — well, I’ve been a secret fan for years.
And can I just say: Bob Rosburg. Just because he was “Rossi”.
by Marci Diehl on Apr 16, 2009 9:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
As in your...
Terry Diehl’s wife?? Do you have a son named Clark???
by baffler231 on Apr 16, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to go with Jim Nantz and Peter Alliss
They are the first two guys I think of when “golf coverage” pops in my mind.
by Cairo on Apr 16, 2009 11:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
great question!
Announcer – Pat Summerall. His football work influences this choice but his voice was the soundtrack of my Masters experience during the ’80s.
Analyst – Ken Venturi. Wore a little thin as the years went by but Faldo’s worn thin for me already.
On-course – David Feherty and Verne Lundqvist.
You might say I’m a CBS man…
by hound dog on Apr 17, 2009 7:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The problem with announcers and analysts is that they’re paid to talk. Broadcasting abhors a vacuum, so even when the moment speaks for itself, someone has to earn that paycheck. The system is flawed to the point that witty, intelligent, well-spoken broadcast journalists sound like fools more often than not. Case in point: John Madden. Ninety percent of his commentary was filling what would otherwise be dead air (turducken anyone?); but the other ten percent was priceless. I’m glad he’s retiring before he turns into Pat Summerall.
Even Johnny Miller has his brilliant moments, though I can’t think of specific examples. Peter Allis is my favorite golf analyst because of his understated dry wit. A few years ago at the Open Championship, he stepped over to the CBS booth for a few minutes. While there, he referred to the supposed expert golf writers as “inky-fisted peasants.” We rolled on the floor.
Truth has a well-known liberal bias.
by dianemarie on Apr 17, 2009 9:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe tweek that a little...
…Modern American broadcasting abhors a vacuum. In so many sports, we have to put up with illiterate ex-players who speak in jargon that nobody understands, or they tell us what we just saw with no real insight into what happened to cause what we just saw. In golf, we have guys like Miller who think that it is his purpose in life to say as many insulting things as possible in a broadcast.
I’m with Marci and miss the early years Frank Chirkinian, who told Dan Jenkins, “Cut your talking in half. You’re not saying anything interesting anyway.” Brilliant !
That’s why I enjoy the European Tour broadcasts. The broadcast crew doesn’t feel the need to spew unneeded syllables over the airwaves.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
by courtgolf on Apr 17, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup, there’s an appropriate mix of silence, golf commentary, and life commentary.
by Ryan Ballengee on Apr 17, 2009 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
definitely
I try to watch the beginning of all the Euro Tour broadcasts because Laidlaw and sidekick always find something fun and interesting about the city or area the tournament is being played.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
by courtgolf on Apr 17, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Miller and Faldo
are fun to hear; Miller for his frankness and guts to say what others are afraid to say, and Faldo for his very intelligent insights on the game.
McCord and Fleherty both think of themselves now as comedians first, golf commentators second. Too bad; they were great when they began…..but got carried away with themselves.
by ccthemovieman on Apr 17, 2009 3:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I keep hearing this “saying what others are afraid to say” thing. What exactly is it that other people are “afraid” to say ? I know that some of the media refuse to say anything negative about Tiger for fear that he won’t talk to them anymore (like he was their bestest buddy) – but I don’t hear Miller saying anything other than “that was a mistake – he should have done…”. Well DUH ! We understand that hitting it in a hazard is bad – and I’m guessing the player didn’t actually intend to hit it there.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
by courtgolf on Apr 17, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Miller says things..
hat shouldn’t be said. I think a lot of people label this as courage or what have you. Every time Miller is on the air I think it gives a pretty good analysis of his thought processes and why he doesn’t play competitively anymore. He tends to assume everyone is choking at any and every point during a round. I guess in his world anytime you play bad you choked, unless you’ve already won a major tournament.
by baffler231 on Apr 19, 2009 2:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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