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The 19th Hole Golf Show - 3/11/09

On this week's show:

We kick off the program talking about the great weekend for Korean golf, and why YE Yang's victory at the Honda seemed to be met with such boredom.  Then, GolfWorld Executive Editor Ron Sirak joins us to talk about his interview with Barney Frank and how golf has come under fire for its corporate sponsorship model.  Last, we are joined by Tod Leonard of the San Diego Union-Tribune to talk about the significance of the LPGA Tour's return to Torrey Pines.

To listen to the whole show, or just my interviews with Ron and Tod, check out the GNN Media Player!

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good show...

…I know you didn’t have the time – but you brought up Citibank and that huge lie they told about their profits. The reason they showed a profit was because they have taken TAXPAYER money from three different “bailout” plans to do what they said they did. LIES !! Now they are flaunting their “profit” based on funny money – they did nothing in their business to earn that profit. (this is as bad as Bill Clinton saying he had a budget surplus when he added in social security and medicade funds – which are expressly forbidden from being added into the budget figures – but nobody in the media bothered to point that out)

Interesting that your guest pointed out that the course set up for Torrey Pines will have almost no change to the way it usually plays. He said they would firm up the greens – and I question whether they will do that or not. The LPGA Tour course set up guy told the people at the RTJ course in Prattville to widen the fairways and slow the greens down. They also had the course put the public hole placements off in some very tucked positions so the middle of the greens would be smooth for the middle of the green tournament hole positions.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Mar 11, 2009 1:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I didn’t want to delve into Citigroup’s false profits for too long, but you’re absolutely right that it’s a false number…at best.

I was also intrigued when Tod said that they were basically taking on Torrey South as it was. I would bet that helped smooth the deal a ton. It also probably came up in their thinking of your point about the comparison between men and women on this course so close to one another.

by Ryan Ballengee on Mar 11, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it's not really an issue...

…the LPGA courses are much easier than PGA Tour courses – there’s no arguing that point. The LPGA plays mostly resort courses that are set up for mid handicap men. They very rarely grow the rough, and never narrow the fairways using rough – much less roll the greens to firm them up. (they are rolled to smooth – but not for speed) That’s going to be the comparison that some people, and probably a few media people will make. They will show pictures of what Torrey looked like last year at the Open and then in January for the Buick…followed by the set up for the LPGA.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Mar 11, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very true, good points

by Ryan Ballengee on Mar 11, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The USGA and the women's Open

They’ve chosen courses the men would never ever play. There have been exceptions, and enough of them that the USGA could form a pretty good 10 year rotation out of , Like the following

Cherry Hills
NCR
Crooked Stick
Prarie Dunes
Broadmoor
Pumpkin Ridge

All of these and the next 6 I list, have hosted a USGA Men’s championship or PGA Championship at least.(NCR hosted the PGA in 69).

That’s 6 out of 10 years right there. Then you got these 6 courses that regularly host men’s majors or men’s tour stops, so maybe you alternate three of them one decade, the other three the next

Colonial
Oakmont
Hazeltine
Atlanta Athletic
Balutsroll
Winged Foot

You got 9 out of every 10 years filled, and you stop going to courses . That’s a pretty good rotation. Make Blackwolf, Pine Needles, or Newport the 10th. They aren’t bad and certainly heads above some of the clunkers of the 60’s and 70’s.

The US Women’s Open would going to the country club of Indianapolis and Rochester, places like Indianwood etc etc. No more Del Pasos!

by Bill Jempty on Mar 11, 2009 3:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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