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Life & Style Needs to Reveal Its 'Experienced Freelancer'

Yahoo! Sports and Dough Ferguson of the Associated Press did some inquiring into Life & Style's story yesterday that attributed some pretty harsh quotes about Tiger Woods and Elin Nordegren to two relatively unknown PGA Tour players in Ben Crane and Charles Warren.

Their stature on Tour and in the public consciousness aside, both have come out directly or through representation to say that neither player said what was attributed to them.

Through a spokesperson for Bauer Publishing Group - who publishes Life & Style, inTouch Magazine, and other teeny bopper magazines - they told Yahoo! and the AP:

"We sent an experienced freelance reporter to a golf tournament attended by several PGA pros.  Our reporter spoke with two golfers who presented themselves as Ben Crane and Charles Warren. We are taking these claims very seriously and investigating further."

I contacted Life & Style editor-in-chief Dan Wakeford for comment directly from him.  He referred me to the same spokesperson who provided me with the same statement that went to Yahoo! and the AP.

That's a cop out as far as I'm concerned.

It's one thing to make up rumors and attribute them to anonymous or nameless sources.  At least most people with a cynical eye know to take them with a grain of salt until proven further.  But for someone to attribute direct quotes to known PGA Tour players is another thing entirely.  That is putting words in someone's mouth that they did not say to you.  That is way more irresponsible than just making stuff up about someone else.

I want to know who the experienced freelancer is.  Are they a golf reporter?  Could they pick Ben Crane or Charles Warren out of a lineup?  Did they do any kind of back checking to see that whoever said these things was actually the person they claimed to be?  Or did they just make this whole thing up and hope that we would believe them at face value (some of us, myself included, did)?

This thing will not be swept under the rug.

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Hey, I’ll admit I couldn’t pick Charles Warren out of a lineup, but if you don’t recognize Ben Crane you don’t have the knowledge of the subject to be reporting on golf, much less attributing quotes to poeple you clearly can’t identify! If all true, this is journalism at it’s truly worst. How about a quick image search to verify that you were actually speaking to the people you quoted? Shoddy reporting at very best. BTW, strke that opening comment. In the time it took to dash off this post, I found a complete bio on Warren with photo online!

by handicapismyswing on Dec 11, 2009 1:15 PM EST reply actions  

That makes two of us

I couldn’t pick Warren or Crane out of a lineup but I knew the later’s PGA tour record.

This won’t be swept under the rug(This is t he 21st century, we use vacuum cleaners) but will be soon forgotten as the Woods saga continues its merry way.

by Bill Jempty on Dec 11, 2009 1:19 PM EST reply actions  

Yahoo Sports…. The name alone says it all….

by pingforever on Dec 11, 2009 1:33 PM EST reply actions  

“will be soon forgotten as the Woods saga continues its merry way.”

Hopefully so, for the sake of the maligned and misquoted parties.

by handicapismyswing on Dec 11, 2009 1:34 PM EST reply actions  

Right on!

We pronounce that “yay-hoo” here in Texas! Has it’s own negative implications, as you might suspect

by handicapismyswing on Dec 11, 2009 1:36 PM EST reply actions  

Good Try

Ryan – hope they publish the results of their investigation. From what I have seen and heard about Ben Crane (apart from his slow play) I don’t believe he would make these comments. Don’t know Warren at all, but I find it highly suspect.

by WendyUK on Dec 11, 2009 1:39 PM EST reply actions  

My guess is that some goofball that they hired went to the tournament, hung out in the parking lot, approached two guys and they had some fun with it. Then the goofball reported it as fact without any back checking.

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by Ryan Ballengee on Dec 11, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

SB Nation is having technical difficulties at this moment

When those are over, I will be putting up a post that won’t paint Ryan or some golf bloggers in a very flattering light. Ryan didn’t get suckered on the crane story, he just continued what he has been practicing since the Woods story broke. Print first, verify later if ever.

by Bill Jempty on Dec 11, 2009 2:05 PM EST reply actions  

Bill, it comes as no surprise that I completely disagree with your sentiment. Especially considering some conversations that I’ve had with professional journalists about this very story.

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by Ryan Ballengee on Dec 11, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Here's my post

click here. A few golf bloggers, TC, HD, myself, have stayed away from this nonsense. It isn’t golf news, its celebrity trash.

by Bill Jempty on Dec 11, 2009 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Two things:
1. All of you guys normally do not cover Tiger Woods or the PGA Tour, so this wouldn’t even be on your normal radar.
2. It actually is news. Not because of the specific women, but because of the other factors.

Was a crime committed? Perhaps so provided Windemere PD reports.

What kind of character is Tiger Woods? There’s a serious examination that needs to be done.

What will the business and financial impact be for both Tiger Woods and the PGA Tour? Sponsors, sponsors, sponsors.

There is a self-examination component to this story. Why is the general population so interested in every palpitation of this story? Why do we project heroism on superstar athletes?

What about the future of Tiger’s philanthropy? The guy is openly committed to causes helping children. Now he is quickly being perceived as kid-unfriendly.

Just because you say it isn’t news doesn’t make it so.

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by Ryan Ballengee on Dec 11, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

“crime” ? not one with a victim

“character” ? just who is supposed to be the judge ? this is not “serious examination” – it is gossip mongering

“business and financial impact” ? who knows ? as it stands, anything right now is speculation at best

“self examination” ? don’t count on this happening except by the people who aren’t seriously concerned or involved in all the gossip – or by “journalists” looking for one last shot at Tiger and one last article.

“future philanthropy” ? depends on Tiger…(see busness and financial impact)…anything right now is pure speculation

It’s not “news” – it’s gossip

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Dec 11, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank you CG

I can’t believe me and you are on the same page. BTW would you like some ketchup with your french fries?

by Bill Jempty on Dec 11, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Crimes don't need a victim

There are a number of crimes where is no (or may not be a) victim. These crimes are considered to be crimes against society and are usually comprised of, but not limited to, what you might think of as “vice” crimes.

by Double Eagle on Dec 11, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Crime – yup, driving under the influence of prescription drugs, which is a crime

Business and financial impact – we haven’t done much on that here because we don’t have many facts, but Tag Hauer is reported to have pulled Woods ads around the world. That’s an impact.

Self-examination – I actually have a post coming about this.

Future philanthropy – again, another angle of the story we haven’t touched on much yet.

I find it funny that anyone dismisses stories where experts in these fields are consulted as being “gossip” or not worth discussing. If someone has a background in the topic area, then it’s ok for them to speak on the subject.

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by Ryan Ballengee on Dec 11, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

no conviction – haven’t seen any proof

It’s a friggin’ watch company – please

is the “first stone” coming from Maryland ? (hmmm) :-D

still speculation

“experts” – yeah – “experts” decided that Tiger is a “sex addict” when all THEY know is that he has had extra marital affairs. Not exactly a clinical examination.

Hey RB – look – a bunch of people jumping off a bridge ! (bwaaaahahahahahaa) :-)

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Dec 11, 2009 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

We can still talk about the police report.

Tag Hauer is one of his major global sponsors. Sorry.

Yes, I’m including myself in the analysis.

We speculate about a lot of stuff here, so why are you making your stand now on this subject? We speculated when Bivens would get fired and no one had a problem with that. Why? Because we all disliked the job that she was doing.

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by Ryan Ballengee on Dec 11, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

We speculate a lot

And not only that, but for those of us who are not journalists, pretty much all we do is speculate, give opinions, debate rumors, etc.

But regarding the Life & Style quotes, it seems to me that basically every news outlet under the sun will refer to other news outlets when reporting things that they haven’t independently verified. In other words, “As reported by such and such, so and so said…”

Maybe I just don’t understand journalism, but am I supposed to believe that when a person is interviewed by a journalist, that other journalists who excerpt quotes from that interview are supposed to call the person who was interviewed to see if he/she said all the things in the interview?

by Double Eagle on Dec 11, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

The answer is kind of unclear for that. When someone says they interviewed someone, most writers will take it at face value most of the time. Like no one dropped me a line to ask me if I really interviewed Tom Watson or Kenny Perry. But, a few did about Rachel Uchitel. You can probably guess why there was a difference.

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by Ryan Ballengee on Dec 11, 2009 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Understood

My point really is that there is some trust in journalism and that it’s an OK practice in the right circumstances. If a journalist prints direct quotes from someone, I don’t see where it’s unreasonable to run with them. When the truth came out, you corrected the story. But you can’t really account for a situation where a reporter was fooled or even fabricated something that was attributed to someone specific.

by Double Eagle on Dec 11, 2009 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

There is SUPPOSED to be some trust in journalism – but that has been in serious decline since Watergate when “journalists” decided it was their job to change the world and take political sides. That philosophy is taught in a lot of collegiate journalism classes – the job isn’t to report anymore – it is to shape public opinion.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Dec 11, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not going to turn this thread into a history of journalism thing, but the whole idea of the “neutral” journalist was actually a 20th century concept. And then it died in the 20th century (or so it seems).

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by Ryan Ballengee on Dec 11, 2009 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I had a problem with the Bivens blather – you were betting on when someone would lose their job – and her actions were affecting the entire LPGA Tour. I tried to give her the benefit of the doubt after that ridiculous reporting of the English Language initiative.

Tiger’s actions affect him and his family – anything else is speculation right now.

I have a personal problem with the media having access to police reports before the case goes to court. It has an affect on how the case is seen – and public opinion is supposed to be left out of the legal system.

by “analysis” – are you talking about the reflection of our social more’s and morals ?

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Dec 11, 2009 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you and I both tried to give her some credit where it was due for what she did achieve. But when the rumor came out from Larry that Biv was out, I remember a FanPost saying something like, “Could it be true?!” with glee.

I would defend the media on the access to reports and such. As a journalist, you’re always trying to find info to tell a more complete and truthful story. Since police reports are public record (not just for the media), they’re going to go to an easy source.

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by Ryan Ballengee on Dec 11, 2009 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

there was no “glee” fanpost from me on the Bivens issue.

sorry – the courts have to have precedence over some whacked out journalist trying to make a splash.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Dec 11, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, I know you weren’t glad about it. Didn’t mean to imply that you did that post. I know you didn’t.

Again, this isn’t a whacked out journalist. This is public record. If you wanted the info on any accident, you could get it through a FOIA request.

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by Ryan Ballengee on Dec 11, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I know it’s public record – I never said it wasn’t. I said it SHOULDN’T be public record because police reports are a part of a criminal investigation – meaning it is a court document. Until the court case is completed, the media shouldn’t be running evidence in a court case because it can affect how that case is viewed. That’s why they tell jurors not to read papers or watch TV during a trial.

Ok – xxx Golf Channel has already gotten on my nerves for 2010 with this 2k10 campaign.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Dec 11, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Convictions are irrelevant

I bet I could dig up 1000 news stories on television and in print from the last 30 days in the United States that report on “alleged” crimes where no conviction has occured. Tune into your local evening news and tell me how many of those reports involved “alleged” crimes.

by Double Eagle on Dec 11, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Bill....I read your post and

I really can’t believe you can be critical of anyone else. What is up with that????

by em66 on Dec 11, 2009 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Seems fair to me – if they are going to employ people like this who embarrass their magazine – and they are going to participate in the public humiliation of Tiger Woods – then they need to fess up to their lack of journalistic integrity as well.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Dec 11, 2009 2:47 PM EST reply actions  

Court.....you're right,

these “journalists” should be accountable for their bogus reporting. I don’t care who they are, because I won’t know them, but their stupidity casts doubts on all the other stories.

by em66 on Dec 11, 2009 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Court.....some of it

is gossip, some of it is news. You can decide what is and what isn’t, based on your own personal preferences….but the fact that so many people (tw.com 400,000 hits) are talking about it, and so many news outlets are reporting it, I believe makes it news. My preference.

by em66 on Dec 11, 2009 3:27 PM EST reply actions  

What can be considered newsworthy is pretty subjective, but I’d say it’s probably safe to say that if people care about it, it’s news. That doesn’t excuse non-factual reporting and the like, of course.

But I think to say this story isn’t news is not accurate. We may not like that people care so much about it, but they do, so in my opinion, that makes it news.

by Double Eagle on Dec 11, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

true enough – but how do 400,000 hits on TigerWoods.com make anything “news” ?

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Dec 11, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

400,000 is just a basis

for saying so many people are talking about it. I read somewhere that normal hits are just a few thousand……just making a point.

by em66 on Dec 11, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Court

You continue to denigrate the media and the public for their interest in this story, and have posited more than once that there is no basis for anyone other than Tiger’s sponsors to delve into his personal business. We had this discussion about privacy and newsworthiness a couple of days ago, when you made this statement..

 “you brought up LEGAL precedents, then got into "right to privacy" (which technically doesn’t exist past the point of government intervention into your privacy). The only people with legal "rights" to dig into Tiger are his endorsers who were given that right by contract.”

This is the crux of the matter… What you think is newsworthy doesn’t count for anything except what you choose to read or not!
The following is legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com:

invasion of privacy n. the intrusion into the personal life of another, without just cause, which can give the person whose privacy has been invaded a right to bring a lawsuit for damages against the person or entity that intruded. However, public personages are not protected in most situations, since they have placed themselves already within the public eye, and their activities (even personal and sometimes intimate) are considered newsworthy, i.e. of legitimate public interest. However, an otherwise non-public individual has a right to privacy from: 1) intrusion on one’s solitude or into one’s private affairs; 2) public disclosure of embarrassing private information; 3) publicity which puts him/her in a false light to the public; 4) appropriation of one’s name or picture for personal or commercial advantage.

In short, despite your unknowledgeable assertion, there is a basic right to privacy, but for a “public personage” who trades on fame and their image, any and indeed almost ALL of their private life is defineably newsworthy because they “placed themselves within the public eye”, making their personal life “i.e. of legitimate public interest”! The 400,000 hits didn’t make this news, Tiger did!!!!!!!!!

by handicapismyswing on Dec 11, 2009 5:10 PM EST reply actions  

ok – so what “just cause” do ANY of us have to dig into Tiger’s private daliances ?

I didn’t bring up legal precedents – I responded to it – and I know – that post wasn’t the best in the world – I should have just kept it simple and asked you what you meant. My bad.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Dec 11, 2009 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

We don’t need just cause, because Tiger’s trading on his fame and public image precludes him from claiming any right to personal privacy from a legal standpoint. I agree with you that much of what we have seen is deplorable, and largely the result of most people living vicariously through the rich and famous. But from a purely legal and, sadly, societal standpoint, it can’t be argued that it is not newsworthy.

by handicapismyswing on Dec 11, 2009 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok – I’m with you now – because someone has a job making a lot of money doing something the public gets to watch – the public is also allowed to know every little secret in his or her life.

It’s still not news – it IS gossip.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Dec 11, 2009 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Not my point...

From a legal standpoint ONLY, because he trades on his image (not because the public gets to watch him ply his trade), it is defineably newsworthy, and fair game by legal standards and societal norms. Does that make it right? In my book, no. I said in an earlier post on another subject that even 40 years ago this would never have appeared anywhere BUT in gossip columns. Times change, like it or not. Your opinion is valid in my estimation, but is just an opinion. If you had prefaced your prior post with an IMHO, I would have agreed wholeheartedly.

by handicapismyswing on Dec 11, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

court....co'mon man.....

we have never known much about his “private” life. But when parts of that private life spill out into the public domain, then you have this situation we are in. Tiger has never minded when the good things in his life were made public……..I guess it is just the bad stuff we have no right to know. He’s the one who screwed up and it all became public. No secrets now!!

by em66 on Dec 11, 2009 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

em66...

Thank you! Your point is concise and well made. If you use the positive aspects of your personal life and deeds to profit from public perception, then the public should have the right to examine that image in full context, good and bad. I’m not a fan of salacious speculation and nattering gossip, which has definitely been far too common. Still, “when you claim to be a saint, and folks find out you ain’t”, who’s to say they aren’t entitled to know?

by handicapismyswing on Dec 11, 2009 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I see what you’re saying – but it’s STILL none of our business – it is STILL gossip…turn the tables and think about what your most embarrassing secret could/would do to you if it were flashed around the world and scrutinized 24/7.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Dec 11, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

While I was watch golf.

It’s very cold where I am so watching golf from South Florida was at least a visual relief… This whole Ben Crane/Charles Warren thing has exploded into a bunch of tangential issues about journalism. The discussion about which could go on forever.

What’s most impressive, despite some strong opinions the discourse was polite. Progolf, you were right!

by pingforever on Dec 11, 2009 6:10 PM EST reply actions  

Ooooo – that reminds me – have to call little bro and see if he’s going to the Shark Shootout this weekend.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Dec 11, 2009 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

IMHO

court, over the short time I’ve been posting here, I can honestly say I have learned to like you. One of the things I admire about you is your unwavering humanity, which is really on display in your last post. I believe that you feel Tiger’s pain, and your post gave me a moment’s pause to do so myself. Unfortunately, Tiger brought this on himself, knowing full well the rules of the game. And if it were not for the fact that it’s a baker’s dozen and counting instead of one or two, this thing would be well on the way to being over. I feel Tiger, but I just can’t get there from where I am. Hope you can understand.

by handicapismyswing on Dec 11, 2009 9:58 PM EST reply actions  

awfully nice of you to say, handi – but before I get nominated for pope-hood…dom…hood-dom…don’t think that I don’t consider Tiger to be a real a-hole for doing all of this to his family and friends, his endorsers, the Tour, and now his fans. The women who went along with it, especially the ones who did it to cash in are trash, but it’s nothing new. Now we just hope for redemption. The fans are easy – all he has to do is tee it up. It’s the family and friends, and hopefully, himself that will be the hard part.

Do you think he’ll get the same level of support as he got when the media was trying to tear him down ?

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Dec 12, 2009 8:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Hope so.

I been in some tough situations in life, but nothing compares to this. He is not out of the tearing down thing yet, and one day soon we need for no more women to come forward. I think if he handles himself right and really comes clean in public one time and no more, poeple will support him. Not all, but a good number.

by handicapismyswing on Dec 12, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

WOW!!!

MSNBC says Tiger has announced he’s quitting gol indefinitely? Gut reaction? Good decision!! If he applies his legendary work ethic, attention to detal, tenacity, and commitment to excellence to his personal life, he’ll be back playing in no time. Good for him.

by handicapismyswing on Dec 11, 2009 10:19 PM EST reply actions  

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