Tiger Woods to Skip His Chevron World Challenge; Singh As Well
by Ryan Ballengee on Nov 30, 2009 3:55 PM EST
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PrintIn a brief statement on his website, Tiger Woods acknowledged that he will not play or appear at the Chevron World Challenge this weekend in California. The proceeds from the tournament benefit his foundation.
On TigerWoods.com, Woods was quoted as saying, "I am extremely disappointed that I will not be at my tournament this week. I am certain it will be an outstanding event and I'm very sorry that I can't be there."
Graeme McDowell will take his place in the field.
Justin Leonard will take Vijay Singh's place in the field, who withdrew citing recovery from knee surgery done on November 25th.
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Tiger could still do the press conference via satellite. Not like in this day and age you have to be physically in the room.
I’m not saying he should/has to/‘owes us’ a press conference or anything else.
I’m just saying that if he wanted to support the tournament and his foundation this week, there are options aside from getting on a plane and traveling there in person.
and you’re going to trust the media to actually ask him questions about the tournament and the foundation ? what color is the sky in YOUR world ? :-)
trust the media…that’s a good one….LMAO !!! :-)
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
Court…I realize you’re unadulterated hatred for ‘the media’ colors the sky in your world dark brown…but nowhere did I suggest anything like that did I? Please refrain from putting words in my mouth.
You said that he could do the conference by satellite.
Think about it – you don’t HONESTLY think that the MEDIA that we are all familiar with would ask about anything other than what has happened in the last week ?
Seriously.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
Seriously…I said he could do it. I didn’t say anything about what they would focus on. Why do I need to state the obvious?
If he is disappointed he can’t be there (which his statement says he is) then he could still ‘be there’ w/out physically being present.
Now if he doesn’t want to go, or do a satellite interview because he knows he will get asked tough questions that he doesn’t want to answer…then golly, maybe he shoulda said that.
Seriously.
You said, “Tiger could still do the press conference via satellite.” And, “…that if he wanted to support the tournament and his foundation this week, there are options aside from getting on a plane and traveling there in person.”
You want him to do a press conference…what do you think would be asked as soon as the floor was opened ?
Seriously.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
Read my last post…seriously. I know you just want to argue and defend Tiger and rip on the media…and assume anyone who dares to differ w/your POV must have it in for Tiger…but I’m afraid I’m able to see both sides of the coin on this one Court, and you are not.
I don’t ‘want’ him to do anything. Again where did I say that? Nowhere, you simply make up phrases to suit your points. I said he has alternatives to being there in person. And if he chooses not to use them, it would indicate that the reason he isn’t participating is for reasons other than (or in addition to) what he has said – which are physical limitations.
I’m not the one who said…“I’m just saying that if he wanted to support the tournament and his foundation this week, there are options aside from getting on a plane and traveling there in person.”
So are you saying that he really DOESN’T want to support the tournament and his foundation ? If he did a satellite press conference, the questions would immediately go to the “affair” and the accident. Why is this such a mystery to you ?
And how does that I am defending Tiger ? Ripping the media ? Definitely. This is NOT a group of people who have shown that they can be trusted to behave themselves and stick to tournament and foundation quetsions. It’s very simple – not a pro-Tiger comment.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
You weave an amazing line of bullshit Court. I’ll give you that.
Look out for the black helicopters that are sure to be circling your house (the media!).
I think my posts are clear and don’t require intepretation or rewording by you, so I’ll just leave it at that ;).
Yes – your posts ARE very clear – but you’re missing the end point of your own argument. I don’t understand how you make a suggestion like that and not see where it will go.
And stop picking on my black helicopter ! :-)
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
Yeah, he could do it via satellite and we haven’t heard if he will or not. Just know he won’t physically be there.
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by Ryan Ballengee on Nov 30, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Haha, absolutely not.
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by Ryan Ballengee on Nov 30, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
CNN reported at 3:30 eastern that Tiger has officially cancelled on the Chevron.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/11/30/tiger.woods/index.html
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
Just saw this tweet
Highly relevant:
RT @FakeAPStylebook: “Stupider” and “Stupidest” are not words, but can be used when describing Internet message board comments.
Ok, Let me get this straight !!!!
Tiger was involved in a minor one car accident at 2:30 am in the morning and was dragged from the car by wife Elin after she broke a window open with a golf club. / He hit a tree and a firehydrant and according to him he had only minor lip scratches and was a little sore. / He was treated and released from the hospital within an hour after arriving and the hospital says he has only minor injury to his face by way of scratches. / The police found no blood in the car. / State police in Florida said Monday (today) an investigation of the single-vehicle crash "is ongoing and “CHARGES ARE PENDING.”
TW refuses to speak to the police for 3 straight days and now says he will not participate in the Chevron Tournament for whom he is the sponsor for his noble charity.
In my humble opinion, none of this points to going out for diapers at the local CVS at 2:30 in the morning.
Also, if I might add another observation. I have noticed that since the announcement that he is pulling out of the tournament, the nay sayers that have been telling people that it’s “None Of Anybodys Business” and It’s a Personal Matter have pretty much disapeared or at best are in the 10% range down from 50%….jumpn/progolf
of course not – everybody knows that CVS closes at 10:00 – you have to go to the All Night Wal-Mart. :-) (did he actually say he was going out for diapers ? it wouldn’t be unthinkable, by the way)
yes – “charges are pending” – that’s happens in a lot of traffic accidents. don’t forget – the FHP also confirmed that alcohol was not involved.
Woods was also said to be in and out of consciousness (possiby a concussion ?) and he said he was pretty sore (seat belts can do that)
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
courtgolf, your reaching brother !! ;o)
Lets assume he was going out for diapers, ( a real strrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrretch ) as its the nannies job and I doubt they would ever run out as they probably have a whole room full. TW is very fit and very alert and I never mentioned that he was drinking. Soooooooooooo, assuming he was probably sober and felt comfortable enough to go to Wally World for some diapers, how is it that he crashes into tree and a hydrant on a street that has no traffic at 2:30 am. A street that he knows all to well from living there for years ??? I have no further questions your honor !!!..jumpn/progolf
lol – so – if your wife looks at you – no matter WHAT time it was and tells you to go get diapers for the baby – you’re going to tell me you would have the guts to tell her you’re not going ? :-D
I have no clue why he was going out at 2:30 in the morning – and here’s the real point – NEITHER DOES ANYBODY ELSE !! So it is ALL speculation…idle speculation.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
It is speculation
I think Tiger’s statement actually causes more speculation than it prevents:
As you all know, I had a single-car accident earlier this week, and sustained some injuries. I have some cuts, bruising and right now I’m pretty sore. This situation is my fault, and it’s obviously embarrassing to my family and me. I’m human and I’m not perfect. I will certainly make sure this doesn’t happen again. This is a private matter and I want to keep it that way. Although I understand there is curiosity, the many false, unfounded and malicious rumors that are currently circulating about my family and me are irresponsible. The only person responsible for the accident is me. My wife, Elin, acted courageously when she saw I was hurt and in trouble. She was the first person to help me. Any other assertion is absolutely false. This incident has been stressful and very difficult for Elin, our family and me. I appreciate all the concern and well wishes that we have received. But, I would also ask for some understanding that my family and I deserve some privacy no matter how intrusive some people can be.
The “I will certainly make sure this doesn’t happen again” line strikes me as unusual.
I dunno, if I’m Tiger Woods and I sleepily backed out of my driveway on my way to run an errand in the middle of the night, my statement would be a bit different. It would be more in the vein of “geez, I’m an idiot – glad I didn’t hurt anyone but myself”. His statement, IMO, sounded like an apology for indiscretions that he hopes never make it to the public.
"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans
maybe 13 years of distrust of the media has him trained to act this way ? maybe 13 years ago he handles the whole thing differently ?
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
That doesn't make sense to me
Wouldn’t a distrust of the media cause him to say less, not more? Out of his whole statement, that’s the one that seemed to be an admission of doing something more untoward than a simple car accident.
"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans
Court
Woods is ducking his own tournament to save his ass. If he can play on one leg (sic) and win the US Open, he is certainly tough enough to survive a bump with a fire hydrant ! This is all going sooooo Hollywood………………….Z.
If he showed up at the tournament – where would the attention be focused – on the tournament and the foundation or on Tiger and his wrecked SUV ? By dropping out, the attention is back on the golf.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
I think you're right
And I think everyone involved in that tournament will understand. Regardless of the details behind Tiger’s accident, the tournament would be overshadowed by his presence.
"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans
Yeah
He pretty much had to withdraw. It would have dominated the whole event to a ridiculous level.
by Double Eagle on Nov 30, 2009 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
LMAO
Not married , so that would never happen. Only thing worse than a loaded gun is a loaded diaper in my opinion. Anyway, Tiger is fit as a fiddle and I doubt your seat belt excuse is valid, being that he was allegedly going so slow as to not set off the air bags. 3irons is correct about Winning the US OPEN in great pain. I think TW should at a minimum “MAN UP” and at least do a video appearance for the tournament. After all it is for charity. Beyond that, I do believe we will all find out the truth and tiger should take one for the team and fess up before things get any uglier. Remember, DENILE IS NOT JUST ANOTHER RIVER IN EGYPT..jumpn/progolf
I don’t disagree with you – and I think that if we had any kind of sane media who would report that Tiger wrecked his car, a fire hydrant and a tree, and had to go to the hospital but he’s fine – he would be playing this week. But we know that hasn’t happened. What’s the guy supposed to do ?
Oh – if the speed of the SUV was anywhere near what they speculated, a person can get pretty wracked up by a seatbelt.
I just can’t believe that he didn’t call Sabbatini to take his spot. (lol)
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
Not so fast 3irons.....
Or maybe 3irons, he’s looking out for his wife’s best interest, which is exactly what I’d do if the rumors are true. We’ll probably never know, (and we should never know) but I have to admit the most plausible explanation is Elin slapped him around a bit, (perhaps for good reason) and in the rush to get out of there, he wrecked the car. Now I don’t know about you, but if I were put in that same scenario I’d get very tight lipped and do all I could do to protect my wife’s name. Why subject her to further hurt and drag her name through the mud? So if you believe the rumors, then I think Tiger is acting very appropriately and again I’d do the exact same thing to protect my wife. But more importantly than anything that did or didn’t happen is the fact that none of it is ANY OF OUR BUSINESS!! The only person he owes an explanation to is Elin, period. This will pass, he’ll keep playing golf, life will go on.
Backin' out of his own event !
Simple solution to the problem here fella’s. Answer a few freakin questions and move on ! Not even his own tournament is enough to have Woods show a little humility. ? His arrogance has no bounds. Pretty sad. He’s afraid to face the music ? The great Tiger Woods ? Certainly drops him another notch in my view. Geez, how bad could it be. He’s already been beaned by Elin. Afraid of the media fall out ???… and I thought this guy had a pair. Geez Louise, what a puss !……………………………..Z.
Again 3irons, if he comes out and says Elin “beaned” him, she gets arrested for domestic abuse. Protecting her is the right thing to do, given that he may have already hurt her enough. I guess you don’t care what happens to her or his family as long as he get’s his image tarnished. It is what it is and all he can do now is take action to protect his family’s privacy and he has every right to do so.
t-pot
If indeed Woods is protecting Elin, I have mixed positions about that. On the one hand ,it is a commendable and noble action. On the other, and this is indee ddark, if she is prone to violence, should not the children be a consideration. We’ve all seen the horror stories regarding childrens physical abuse and murder. But Elin ? Well, if she attacked a 185 lb man and messed him up good, I should think somebody should speak for those kids. Do I think they are in danger,….hell no. But,…the law takes that into account. So we are on a slippery slope here. The solution is Woods comes clean, there’s a little investigation and in a few weeks it’s just another spousal spat, one of millions that occur everyday. Protect Elin,…yes , a noble gesture. But is there more to it, more that gets hidden away to perhaps explode another day with dire consequences ? We don’t know anything about Tiger and Elin, but the kids shouldn’t be exposed to harm if it can be avoided. Tough call, and I’m certainly thankful it’s not me. You are too I’d surmise………Z.
well 3irons were getting a little too deep into speculation for my comfort zone, but I do know that humans make mistake and do things they regret. I know I have as well. The children I’m sure were long since asleep at 2:00 in the morning, and striking a grown man who is potentially having an affair is a much different thing than striking a child. Doesn’t make it right, but these things can and do happen. Tiger is in the best position to judge what’s best for his children, and 95% of the time that’s with their mother. I also know we’re in know position to judge this and I know for certain it’s none of our business. Tiger is absolutely correct when he says it’s a private matter. Something is deeply wrong with a society that thinks it has some God given right to pry into somebody’s private life. Tiger and Elin have every right to protect their family from this absurd hunt for dirt and they are fully capable of dealing with their own mistakes without dragging the law, the media and the public into it. Tiger is well within his legal rights and his rights as a human being to do exactly what he’s doing.
Sorry tigerhead, I’ve been out golfing all day…I’m sure you missed me. Just a few corrections tonight and I’ll try to be gentle. You said…“Something is deeply wrong with a society that thinks it has some God given right to pry into somebody’s private life”. But I say something is deeply wrong with a society that thinks it is okay to violate God’s commands and then to hide those sins under the guise of a right to privacy. That’s the society you are advocating. I’m all for privacy; for instance whatever Tiger and Elin say or do in their home should be private. But when Tiger goes out in public and has an extramarital affair, that does not deserve to be guarded under the right to privacy.
BTW, I’m with you on TW not talking to the FHP as being within his rights and trying to protect Elin. I think it’s stupid, but he’s within his rights. I say stupid, because as 3-irons says, it’s just not smart to antagonize the cops. If the cops get hold of TW’s medical records and the wounds are more consistent with scratches and blows from a sand wedge, then his reluctance to talk to the FHP may come back to bite him and Elin in the arse.
“violate God’s commands” ?? I just checked my Bible’s table of index and didn’t see anything about traffic accidents. (just kidding) Care to explain a little further ? I don’t see how Tiger has violated god’s commands by not speaking to the media.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
courtgolf,
I thought I explained it but here it is again…“But when Tiger goes out in public and has an extramarital affair, that does not deserve to be guarded under the right to privacy.” I’m not concerned about the traffic accident; obviously that was precipitated by a fight with Elin over the NE accusation of the extramarital affair; I’m concerned if TW did actually have an extramarital affair and our society, in particular people like tigerhead, are trying to cover-up the affair. And I’m on tigerhead’s side in supporting Tiger’s right to not talk to the FHP.
I’m just waiting for more information from the NE who promised more evidence of the alleged extramarital affair. I realize that their MO is to drag this out as long as possible in order to sell more magazines. If TW is actually innocent of these accusations, I would become his biggest fan, because I know from first hand experience how irrational and erratic some women can be when confronted with these cheating accusations. But the fact that TW never actually came out and denied these accusations is what convinces me that he is guilty.. I guess we’ll see as this story develops.
Where did you get the idea that someone having an affair is the public’s business ? Where have you found PROOF that Tiger had an affair ? “OBVIOUSLY precipitated by a fight with Elin” ??? Where is your evidence ?
More importantly, when did the National Enquirer become the public relations arm of god ? You’re willing to turn to the devil to get god’s advice ? I’m very sure that there is a LOT more scripture about gossip than anything Tiger has been proven to have done.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
I thought I made it pretty clear that I don’t have proof that TW is having an extramarital affair. I do now have proof that you can’t read or reason though.
To answer your more important question, "when did the National Enquirer become the public relations arm of god ? "…they didn’t. My question is what would induce you to ask such a stupid question? And no, I’m not willing to turn to the Devil to get God’s advice…but sometimes it is difficult to discern just who is representing the Devil….there appears to be a good possiblity that the Devil is behind TW’s advisors/lawyers.
And who is “god”? Are you referring to “God”? If so, please refer to Him as such.
It’s not gossip if it’s true; I thought I made it pretty clear that I would be on TW’s side if these NE accusations are false.
just thought you might have some other text the rest of us don’t have – my bible doesn’t have a book of National Enquirer.
You admit that you have no proof – yet you take the Tiger Woods situation to biblical proportions. You can’t make statements like you made, bringing god into the situation, without proof. (by the way – “God” isn’t a personal name)
Not willing to turn to the devil ? You accepted the word of a gossip rag as truth.
Do I need to refer you to Matthew 7 for references to building your house on the sand ? The same logic holds true for forming an argument like that.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
courtgolf,
I realize that you can’t read or reason, but all of my comments are posted here so please do identify where I made any such comments? I’ll even help you, I’ve repeated this quote twice now and you still can’t discern its meaning…“But when Tiger goes out in public and has an extramarital affair, that does not deserve to be guarded under the right to privacy”….that’s what I said, and that does NOT imply that TW is guilty, as I’ve said ad infinitum, I’m waiting for the proof. What we do know for a fact, is that the NE accused TW of having an extramarital affair, and this is what precipitated the fight between TW and Elin.
I am just sick of you misconstruing what I have said; I have been very consistent in just posting what these websites say; I have NEVER suggested that what they said is true, unless it is proven.
And God is indeed a proper noun, and as such should be capitalized. It may seem petty, but the difference is actually quite meaningful. “God” refers to the Supreme Being, the Creator of all things; “god” refers to any false god that we create, ie. the golf gods, the gods of ancient Greece and Rome; money or power as “god”.
you're going to lose this one
Ok – English 101 – the use of the word WHEN – not “IF TW does such and such”. By using the word “when”, you are saying that something DID happen.
To continue – YOUR words again – “But I say something is deeply wrong with a society that thinks it is okay to violate God’s commands and then to hide those sins under the guise of a right to privacy. That’s the society you are advocating. I’m all for privacy; for instance whatever Tiger and Elin say or do in their home should be private. But when Tiger goes out in public and has an extramarital affair, that does not deserve to be guarded under the right to privacy.”
Once again, you contend that Tiger DID have an affair – if not – you shouldn’t say that he is trying to “hide those sins under the guise of a right to privacy.”
You also set yourself up as a moral authority by deciding what he does and does not have a right to do under the law.
You have consistently quoted the Enquirer and based your arguments on that rag.
God is a proper NOUN – I said proper NAME.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
“Ok – English 101 – the use of the word WHEN – not "IF TW does such and such". By using the word "when", you are saying that something DID happen.”
No I am not! I said what I said….when it happens, then and only then, does Tiger forfeit his right to privacy.
Sorry but you lose this one!
And I did not contend that TW had an affair; the NE did!
And actually, you said…“by the way – "God" isn’t a personal name)”…but either way, “God”, the Supreme Being, needs to be capitalized…I see another post from you about this so I’ll get into more of this when I reply to that.
so you’re assuming he is GOING to have an affair ? That he has had affairs and it is a regular thing ? What are you saying ? YOU used the word “when” – not me.
are you also assuming that we follow the same god/God ? Most other religions that claim a supreme being give that being a proper name (Yaweh, Allah, Jehovah, Ra, all the Greek / Roman / etc) – including the Old Testament where God has a name, but it was not to be spoken. (kind of strange – but it’s how they did things)
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
No, I’m not assuming TW is going to have an affair. The NE got a tip that TW was having an affair from one of RU’s girlfriends; they investigated it; they posted a story last Wed with the accusation; and TW and his wife had a fight the next day. “When” or “if” something like that happens, I think that it should not have the same right to privacy as something like TW and Elin having an argument behind closed doors at their home.
Now the God issue…I’m not assuming but yes, by definition, we all follow the same God. If there is a God, the Supreme Being, the Creator of all things, then there can only be ONE God. Now we, as creatures of this God, can and do have very different understandings of the God. All the other names for God should be capitalized also, because they are proper names. You don’t have to exist to be a proper name, ie. Santa Claus or Zeus. The distinction between the name of “God” and god is that god refers to an unnamed god that we created, ie. like the collective Greek and Roman gods, that would nevertheless be capitalized when identified as entities, such as Zeus or Venus.
Exactly ! So, based on rumor and gossip from a “friend” of RU, NE runs the story – and you took your “evidence” from them.
And yet – Muslims and Jews in the middle east continue to lob missiles and strap on bombs to walk into markets in the name of…the same God. Amazing, isn’t it ?
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
courtgolf,
Let’s get something straight…NE ran the story, I didn’t. I read the story, I actually posted the pertinent portions of the story here about 3-4 times; I have repeatedly said that I am awaiting further evidence from them, which they implied they had. You can make your own judgments about the story, but don’t make my judgments for me, I am quite capable of doing that for myself!
Yes, God is amazing. But don’t think less of God because of what His creatures do here on Earth…His creatures, ie. us, we are imbued with free will, and sometimes, quite often actually, we don’t make the best of decisions.
Which is exactly my point – you are taking the NE story as your evidence – a gossip rag. Then you declared that Tiger was “covering his sins”. All I said was that there is a lot of condemnation of gossip in the Bible.
I didn’t make any judgment about God because of what his creatures do.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
Well DUH….of course I am using the NE story as my evidence, because they’re the ones who wrote the story. But what you fail to add is what I’ve also consistently said…“I have repeatedly said that I am awaiting further evidence from them, which they implied they had.” The NE made the accusation that TW was having an affair; I did not! I am awaiting further evidence. What is your obsession about the NE being a “gossip Rag”? If what they say now about TW is true, then why does it matter that they have been wrong in the past? Note well, I am viewing and evaluating everything they say also very suspiciously. And it’s not gossip if it’s true. I have said over and over and over again….if TW is not involved in an extramarital affair, then I will be his biggest fan because I hate to see someone treated unfairly.
And if you were not making any judgment about God (at least I have you using the proper case…YAY!!!) because of what his creatures do, then what exactly did this post of yours mean?
…“And yet – Muslims and Jews in the middle east continue to lob missiles and strap on bombs to walk into markets in the name of…the same God. Amazing, isn’t it ?”…
…because that is what your statement implies.
You made the point that if there is truly a supreme being, there can only be ONE…which logically isn’t necessarily true, but we’ll go with it. If there is only one “God”, then all of these religions (that historically can be traced back to the same patriarch) are killing their religious relatives under the different names of the same God. It’s an interesting historical quirk, don’t you think ?
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
God ?
As I don’t believe in God, I prefer to treat others as i would like to be treated. That way, there is no looking down on others. It’s easy to be harsh on Woods at this time, but can any of you tell me honestly he deserves this ? All he did was dominate world golf like no other before him. Any competitor tries his best to do just that. He is very rich, thanks in large part to the media monster of the modern age. He hasn’t always handled his fame well, but who could ? Can any of us honestly say we could do that bit better ? Easy to say, Harder to do. Hell, I crack up when i do too many nightshifts and run myself into the ground. Because Tiger wins to the point where he almost looks greedy and selfish, some people almost resent him. When he won the Masters in ‘97, golf was suddenly cool. This brings a different take on golf compared to Jack’s era…to cash in on that, Nike saw the market ( I personaly am not a Nike fan) and exploited it. That alone creates resentment to some old timers who prefer a more traditional way of golf. That can sometimes lead to a more tainted view of Tiger the man, whom none of us really know, unless we are a friend of him. No one else has the capabilty to strip away the media layers to see Tiger for what he really is, for we only see him through the media. One thing I know for certain, I have made mistakes in life, that if I was that rich and famous, I would have been beat up big time by todays media. Can any of you not say the same ?
hey wait – you don’t believe in god, but live by the golden rule ? (JUST teasing !) (lol)
I think that’s very well said
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
Anger management
We all know that for the past 6 months or so Tiger has had some anger management issues “AS SEEN ON TV” in a PUBLIC PLACE, hence Australia and other venues. No cameras clicking to blame this time Mr Woods. It’s time to “Man Up”. As the ole saying goes, "It takes a big man to admit his mistakes and a bigger man to correct those mistakes….progolf/jumpn
What about the mistakes of his wife? Should he not protect her? It just may very well not be as simple as admitting his own mistakes jumpn. And let me continue to point out, these mistakes, (if there are any) are absolutely none or our business whatsoever. He only needs to answer to his wife regarding this matter, it’s not the public’s concern.
Wifes Mistakes ?
Are you saying she made some ? I thought you said it was all speculation ???? Tigerhead, I’m not trying to argue with ya cause I value your opinion and you have always stuck to your collective guns regarding tiger woods. The steets of Isleworth are in a semi-private gated community, however the streets are public and owned by the city as they are here in my semi-private gated community in Ponte Vedra Beach. We all pay city taxes for upkeep and city services. It happened on a PUBLIC street, hence being a PUBLIC safety issue, hence public information regading the events of the accident. TW wants all the attention when he is doing well, but you have to take the good with the bad in life. I’ve made my share of mistakes and have learned its better to admit it than let the public or media in this case do it for you. Anywho, I hope the day comes when you and I and a few other blogers we know can get together to play a round and discuss all things GOLF, rather than this debockle. Hopefully I can secure a few extra passes for the 2010 Players Championship here at Sawgrass and you and a couple others can come down and hang out. Sure would be fun…jumpn/progolf
No Surprise
I think I would have been more surprised if Tiger would have showed up. The media attention he would have received would have taken away from the tournament. Tiger certainly feels better served in the long term prognosis by taking the week off. His camp is in a defensive position that time will judge to be correct in that same long term. It is not satisfying, but it is understandable.
Gettin' in the deep end !
t-pot,…the law is pretty clear about spousal abuse. Woods thinks his silence protects her, fine. But the law also consider the safety of the children in the home. The law is charged to protect those who cannot protect themselves.Obstuction IS a felony.You want to bury your head in the sand because it’s your boy Tiger Woods in the crosshairs ? He’s not the first celebrity this has happened to, and his kids are not the first exposed to this issue. Or have you forgotten about MacKenzie Phillips, or perhaps Michael Jackson,…both victims because a spouse was being protected. Climb down off the cross dude, cause somebody else needs the wood ! The law is what holds our society together, and just because one is a celebrity does not give them province to disregard the law. Nobody broke the silence to Phillips and Jackson’s eternal dismay. I can speak to this kind of abuse, I saw it all around me in my youth on the res. Don’t suggest it is a non issue, just because it’s Tiger Woods involved ! Clearly he is human and makes mistakes like us all. He and his wife are not above the law. The police need to be allowed to do their job, and if that infringes on Woods pirivacy, that’s too damn bad ! He’ll get over it. Michael Jackson never did ! It’s not just about Woods,…little Sam and Charlie need their rights protected too. Let the law do what it is charged to do, and hopefully there is no reason to fret about Sam and Charlie. I believe that,….but being the recluse Tiger and Elin are,….nobody knows until an assessment is done ! That is what the law is charged to do.
Your really going off the deep end if now your saying his children are in some kind of danger, talk about speculation.
Can you say beyond a doub,t that his kids are not in harms way ? CAN YOU !!! No, you cannot ! The law however, is equipped to do so. Even if it’s only by going through the motions, they should be allowed to preform their task. But because it’s Tiger Woods, then you feel he is above the law. BS dude ! All he needs to do is clear the air and this all goes away in short order. Unless someone has broken the law. I never realized that celebrities were above the law. Apparently you think otherwise. Garbage.
Good Morning Arizona!
I love the way you ask a question….and then answer it yourself! Are you a unrelenting, redundant Tiger Woods detractor? Of course you are!
Have you heard of the 5th amendment? He is well within his legal rights to not say a single word to the FHP, so by all means explain how he’s “above the law” by keeping quite?.
Legal rights
t-pot,…yes, of course he is within his" legal rights" to say nothing to the FHP. If he wishes to protect Elin, that is a noble gesture. But by doing so, is he hiding a bigger issue that should be addressed by law enforcement ? We do not know, and most likely never will. Just as nobody knew what was happening to Michael Jackson or Mackenzie Philips or scores of young children brought up in abusive environments. I have seen this up close in my youth. The violence and the heart ache. It is ugly and life changing. I’m sure ,looking at your photo, that you are a carring father, who would let nothing harm his child. Not even if it were your spouse. Laws are in place to protect our kids from violence, even from parents. Woods silence, although perhaps noble, does not allow the law to investigate. If she assaulted him, that is criminal. If she assults those kids in a fit of rage, that would be unforgivable. I would put my kids ahead of my spouse in this situation,…and my spouse feels the same way. Now,…do I think there is a problem in the Woods home and little Sam and Charlie are in danger ???…..no, I do not. The point is, the law is charged to investigate these matters and silence blocks their efforts. Silence clearly indicates Woods is hiding something incriminating about himself or Elin. I don’t need to know in any event, but I am a believer in the process of protecting young kids .I hope you never have to you witness a drunken parent beat a child to unconciousness. It is horrifying, the worst act imaginable. These children have rights too, but cannot protect themselves. That is the responsibility of society and the law in particular.So yes, Woods can use the 5th. What do those kids use if it turns violent. I used my fists to protect a friend from his old man.I did it often. Violence towards children, or in front of them, scars those little hearts forever.Sometimes an intervention can make all the difference.I do agree with what you are saying about his rights, but sometimes there is more than somebody’s rights involved in these situations,….there is justice, the responsiblity of doing the right thing.I know what I would do…………………………… …z.
3 – that is the same flawed logic employed by DFACS. People who know nothing about a family charge to the rescue and rip kids away from parents, and sometimes have the parents thrown in jail for doing completely normal things. Jumping from Tiger hitting a fire hydrant to his children being beaten is an irrational step. I’m glad you at least said that you don’t believe it, but all it takes is some idiot in the media tossing that idea out and here comes Uncle Sam to the rescue.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
DFACS
Court,…maybe you should tell this to my good friend’s little brother,..Jodie ? His old man beat him to death in a drucken rage when he was 9 yrs old ! From that point on, I used whatever means available to stop any violence against my friends. I got lots of practice. The res. could be a lawless place. But I also hear what you are saying. My life experiences tell me what needs to done in these situations. It is always better to have the professionals perform an intervention than to see it end up with an abused child. I only need to think about Jodie to know what I would do. Just sayin’………………….Z.
No doubt – once in a while – they manage to help a kid or two. More often than not, they are a government agency that exerts authority to justify their funding. Way too many stories like the young mother who called a hotline to ask if it was normal for her to feel excitement when breast feeding her baby. The hotline woman, instead of giving a common sense answer, called DFACS and the woman was arrested and the baby put in the “care” of the state.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
jumpn/3irons – this is much more of a public relations issue for Tiger than a legal problem. Based on what we know the worst thing they can charge him with is wreckless driving. For Elin the potential charge is a little more serious and I believe that’s what he’s avoiding. Right or wrong, I completely understand why he would want to protect the mother of his children. We’re most likely never going to know what happened that night,and that’s just the way it is. I’m ok with that because I believe in the right to privacy and it’s not my concern; it’s just simply none of our business. But the media circus will keep on I’m sure, so be it.
A gift for some, coal in the stocking for others
For those who have been on a mission to discredit Tiger Woods, he’s given you an early Christmas gift. For others the events of Black Friday haven’t added to their holiday cheer. Since I believe no one listens to anyone about anything, especially on a blog, I know I’m shouting into the wind. What ever happened to the old directive, “If you can’t say something nice about someone, don’t say anything at all”? Of course if that were observed, 85% or more of the posted comments on this blog and at TGC would not exist. Nor would thousands of other blogs across the net. Don’t mistake me for a “Tiger Woods suck-up” one of the favorite expressions of one of the new bloggers here, I like to see entertaining, high quality and yes, even emotional players, and Tiger is certainly one of those. The exposure of Tiger’s private life has caused a few sphincters on Madison Avenue to tighten a bit. My guess is Tim Finchem has done a good deal of eye rolling and hand wringing…. Merry Christmas Tim, this is why you get the big bucks!
ping brother
LMAO @ sphincters on Madison Ave. hahahaha and as fate would have it I’m at the airport waiting for my flight to NYC. I’ll be sure to stay clear of sphincters on Madison Ave. Have a good day gang. Talk with ya’as later. jumpn/progolf
Adams Family?????
Does anyone else think it is kind of funny that ESPN is calling Tiger’s neighbors “The Adams Family”…? Maybe some of you younger folks won’t find the humor in that…..lol..lol Maybe it was “thing” that used the club to knock out the glass….and where was Uncle Fester???..and Lurch..you gotta watch that guy…
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