Police: Woods Accident 911 Call Made by Neighbor
by Ryan Ballengee on Nov 29, 2009 11:46 AM EST
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Moments ago, Florida Highway Patrol spokesperson Kim Montes released a statement to media. There are two key highlights from the release.
The 911 call made the morning of Woods' crash is scheduled to be released today. There is one phone call and it was made by a neighbor.
The troopers are scheduled to return to the Woods' residence, after they come on duty at 3:00 pm.
There is no press conference scheduled at this time to provide additional information or answer questions. We'll release the audio of the 911 call once we receive it.
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whats this ?
Elin didn’t call 911 ? But she had time to grab a golf club enroute to the accident scene just outside the home? wowza The plot thickens…
em66 welcome
Hey brother, glad to see you joined. Your very young looking in your picture. haha. Lots of great stuff at this website, the writers are awesome and very fair about their reporting.
cool tigerhead has joined
good to see ya bro, this is a much better website than TGC. The links on the home page are great also…jumpn/progolf
tigerhead,
There was never any doubt about Tiger being at fault for the accident. And to try to shift the guilt to his wife is disingenuous at best. Of course you give yourself away when you say you “respect Tiger”…LOL…you respect someone for cheating on his wife. And then you say you’d do the same thing…I bet you would!
Fortunately, this is NOT all we’re going to get, it’s not time yet to move on, this story is far from over. Like they always say, it’s not the crime but the cover-up. It’s a sad state of affairs that we have to rely on supermarket check-out stand rags, ie. the National Enquirer, the Star, and internet sites such as TMZ to get at the truth these days. Of course since Tiger is 25% black, we could see the POTUS and his communist AG file charges against these sites.
You know, I've been a registered user...
…here at Waggle Room for a couple of years now. And it’s nice to see all the new folks here. It’s just a shame that with the new influx of users, we’ll likely have to put up with morons making comments like niblic’s.
Niblic, you managed to somehow inject gossip, blatant racism, and dim-witted politics into a single comment. That’s some sort of stupid trifecta. Wow.
"...it is well to remember that to miss a putt is not a criminal offense and does not prevent a man from being an excellent husband, father, and citizen." - Bernard Darwin
by turnover on Nov 29, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Police denied interview for third day ?
wow, Not allowing the police in for an interview for a third day in a row is somewhat suspect in itself. Damage to the inside of the home maybe ? Makes you wonder. Glad to see 4 of ya’as have made the move over from TGC. I hope the regulars at waggleroom don’t mind our sudden entrance :o). I also just noticed that peoples comments are posted while you are typing yours, “very cool” Now I need to upload a picture….jumpn/progolf
niblic
hmmm, perhaps you rely on the tabloid garbage to get “truth”, but I most certainly do not. The problem with the Enquirer and the likes is they report rumor as fact, and that’s very irresponsible. Yes, sometimes the rumors turn out to be true but this is not reporting and can not be trusted. I never said I respected him for cheating on his wife, and that is farFAR from a proven fact. I said I respect him for protecting his family, and yes I would most certainly do the same thing, so don’t put words in my mouth. But that’s what I would expect from someone who reads that tabloid trash I suppose.
I mean they said Elin was in the house when it happened. Yet she ran out with a golf club instead of calling 911. Tiger told a friend that he needed to get the Kobe Special. For those that dont know when Kobe had an affair with his wife. And the fact he slams the doors on the cops again.
Answer the Questions!!!
If Tiger had said in his statement that he did not have an affair and that he and Elin had not been fighting and then explained where he was going at 2:30, then I would have believed him. But to say the rumors are untrue and that Elin is a hero doesn’t do it for me. And now the police are not allowed to talk to them….again…….Guilty of something….we’ll just have to wait and find out what.
Is there more to this story?
Yes of course most likely there is. But is it any of our business? No it most certainly is not. I honestly believe those that don’t like Tiger, really want this to somehow tarnish his image and maybe it will, but you’re most likely never gonna find out the details of that night. Should Tiger hold a press conference and answer a bunch a questions, perhaps he should but sorry folks it’s not going to happen. Yes, the whole thing is fishy and unanswered questions are everywhere, but really folks this is very minor stuff compared to other things in the world. This is a private matter so move on to something that is actually relevant to your own life and leave the Woods family alone.
de ja vu
Wow! golf-nut: You’ve got it all wrong a “Kobe Special” is a filet mignon of the finest beef in the world. They sell them at the Circle K right outside Isleworth… It’s a very up-scale Circle K…. And THAT’S what Tiger was going out for in the middle of the night.
LPGA next week
Well we will always have the alleged “Sprained Ankle” topic for next week to discuss. tigerhead I doubt this story will end anytime soon. I’m sure TGC will do their best to sugarcoat no matter what, but I betcha the truth will come out eventually. Hey ya Ping, I just saw you post in real time cool…progolf/jumpn
tigerhead,
Very minor stuff? On the one hand, you could consider anything related to golf as “very minor stuff” compared to other stuff in the world, ie. mideast peace process, a nuclear Iran, the Copenhagen summit, etc. But on the other hand this is a golf discussion website, and to describe this as “very minor stuff” in the world of golf, makes you look as foolish as your name.
Yes, tigerhead, all your posts here and at TGC are the equivalent of giving cyberhead to Tiger. I’m surprised that you didn’t call all of us, who question Tiger, racists….you only implied that. The very reverends Jackson and Sharpton will be contacting you for an attitude adjustment session so you will not be so careless in the future.
And I will be glad to leave the Woods family alone, but then I’m not the one who is causing any problem for the Woods family, that would be Tiger. If Tiger could keep his putter in his pants where it belongs, he wouldn’t be having these problems.
niblic, giving cyberhead to Tiger huh? You’re a real class act now aren’t you; very impressive. Your the only one bringing racism into this so I’ll leave that absurd accusation alone. And you “know” TW had an affair because you read it in a tabloid? Funny. Maybe he did, maybe he didn’t, I don’t know and neither do you, so let’s not present that as factual just yet. Reasonable? I do know this, what we’re talking about here is a traffic accident investigation and not even a serious one and people such as yourself are acting like he murdered somebody. So yes, I would say this is very minor. Life will go on, nobody’s going to jail, Tiger will keep playing golf. Move on.
I’m not the one giving cyberhead, you are. If you don’t like that accusation then stop it! And I didn’t accuse you of calling any of us who criticize Tiger, racists, I said your post implied it…“No it most certainly is not. I honestly believe those that don’t like Tiger, really want this to somehow tarnish his image and maybe it will”. The clear implication is that anyone who doesn’t like Tiger is a racist.
As to whether Tiger is having an extramarital sexual affair, it is true that I do not know for a fact, meaning I was not in the room at the time. But I do have a brain, do you? I know for a fact that the NE posted a story on Wed Nov 25th about the affair, and on Thur/Fri Nov 26-27th Tiger got into a domestic argument with his wife. Now true, the fight could be over who is to carry out the garbage. But I have been married for over 40 years and if someone accused me of having an extramarital affair, I would vehemently deny it. But not your boy, Tiger….he tries to place the blame on the accusers. And there are plenty more like you, tigerhead, who don’t care what Tiger does in his personal life. I, for one, do care….it matters a helluva lot more to me what kind of man Tiger is rather than how far he can hit a golf ball. Tiger has shown his true colors in this affair and his refusal to address the issue just compounds his problems.
Ok you got me, I don’t have a brain…lol. Look niblic, you have a right to your opinion as do I, there’s not need to get testy. I try and deal with facts, and it is NOT factual that Tiger had an affair, it’s only a rumor at this point. It would hardly be the first time the NE got it wrong not would it? That’s all I’m saying. We don’t need to know all of the dirty laundry about everybody, not my business. Now you want to judge Tiger negatively without all the facts go ahead. I just disagree with you and would like to express that without being insulted. Deal?
No deal! I did not say that it is factual that Tiger had an affair…I said and I quote from my post, which apparently you can not read because admittedly you have no brain…“I know for a fact that the NE posted a story on Wed Nov 25th about the affair,”. You say you try to deal with facts so deal with that.
I want to judge Tiger negatively with the facts that I have….what else can I do? I can’t force Tiger to tell me his side of the story, in fact, I respect his right to silence. But his silence, as well as his hiring of this criminal lawyer, is telling, and what it tells those of us with a brain is that some of this NE story is true. You are more than entitled to express your own opinion, but if it is a stupid opinion, like saying in your opinion the earth is flat, then I will say your opinion is stupid. Deal?
If that’s how you want it then so be it. I prefer to keep things a bit more friendly without the name calling and insults and had hoped you’d feel the same. You know, how gentlemen behave. My mistake. Signed the brainless guy, giving cyberhead to Tiger, with stupid opions. Cheers.
Tigerhead
Pay no attention to him. I actually gave him a compliment on TGC and he attacked me like a red-headed step child. Must be a very unhappy person.
Don’t worry em66, niblick doesn’t bother me. Indeed, I made a peace offering and he’s still throwing insults….lol
You offerred a deal, which I didn’t accept, I offerred you a counter deal which you ignored….now I would call that insulting to me, but you don’t hear me crying. Stick to the facts and answer the questions and we’ll get along fine.
Some attack…I made an obvious joke, even included the “LOL” and you were offended…must be a very insecure person.
Cool
So, if I say you are a waste of skin, piece of crap, who is as dumb as a brick and add LOL it’s funny???? Not insecure, maybe a little confused.
No, you’re a lot confused. And I learned a long time ago…sticks and stones….so I’m not offended at all.
OK
We can play it your way. We bow to your superior intellect. You probably should quit eating those sticks and stones…..they seem to have had an adverse effect on your personality, or lack off personality.
Where the hell did that come from? Try responding with something logical and rational and we’ll get along fine.
niblic reasonable people can disagree and still remain respectful and friendly and even enjoy debating all while not using a single insult. You really should try it sometime. It’s ok to disagree, in fact it’s expected in this world. But the notion that somebody else is stupid because they see things differently than you, is rather illogical. You should really come to understand your opinion is merely that, an opinion, no more or less valuable than any other opinion.
tigerhead,
Read the posts….you claimed I said something that I did not, I called you on it and even supplied the proof that you were wrong. That is a fact. And then you wanted me to agree that your stupid opinions were not stupid….I do not and will not agree to that.
And now you say…“But the notion that somebody else is stupid because they see things differently than you, is rather illogical.” …and of course that’s true, but then again, I never said that. Just read the comments and reply to what I actually say, not what you think I say.
Useless
Tigerhead…..give it up. Actually I agree with most of his opinions including his political views, but I don’t understand the “meanness” of his posts. You and I are totally opposite on this matter, but we have remained civil, which I appreciate.
Ok nibby, do you or do you not believe the story in the NE? Are you on the fence? Still waiting on evidence? Because everything you’re saying and arguing (if you want to call it that) is premised with the idea that Tiger had an affair. There’s no "if"s or “let’s wait and see” in any of your posts. You’ve made your judgment, which is fine with me. I respect and understand your opinion, I just disagree with it. Nothing more to say really.
OK dickhead, I posted the portion of the NE story below that I believe. It’s not much and I admitted that the NE is trying to sell papers so they’re milking this story for all it’s worth. There will be more appearing later.
And you still can’t mange to read the posts, and I’m sorry if that offends you or your little sister em66, but that lack of reading ability makes you STUPID!!!!! Here again, for your reading(or in your case, ignoring) pleasure is the pertinent quote from above which you refuse to read…
“As to whether Tiger is having an extramarital sexual affair, it is true that I do not know for a fact, meaning I was not in the room at the time. But I do have a brain, do you? I know for a fact that the NE posted a story on Wed Nov 25th about the affair, and on Thur/Fri Nov 26-27th Tiger got into a domestic argument with his wife.”
And I am waiting for the further evidence to be presented, as I’ve said before. I’ve made my judgment based on what I know now, what else could I possibly do? And as far as you disagreeing with me, I actaully don’t think that you do, you’re just don’t realize it.
Ok nibby enough of the insults. I have 2 advanced degrees, teach at the college level, and have been successful in the business world. I’m not stupid. We disagree, that’s it. Em66 and I have been arguing this for the last 3 days, we also disagree. But not one insult has been thrown and we’re still friends and respect each other. Get it? You see I actually enjoy when people disagree with me, and enjoy a respectful debate. But what your doing is not debate, it’s just throwing insults at another blogger you don’t know anything about. Have a good night.
I know plenty about you…you have been caught in a lie and instead of admitting it, you use the sad old excuse that you’re the victim, that you’re being verbally abused. Well, I’m the one who’s being abused….you misquoted me and I proved it and you refuse to even address it. You even agree with me and yet you’re too dumb or too stubborn to admit it. I said and I’ll quote it again…
“As to whether Tiger is having an extramarital sexual affair, it is true that I do not know for a fact, meaning I was not in the room at the time. But I do have a brain, do you? I know for a fact that the NE posted a story on Wed Nov 25th about the affair, and on Thur/Fri Nov 26-27th Tiger got into a domestic argument with his wife."
…and you can’t possibly disagree with that because that is a fact, and as you said, you deal with facts. Good night….get some sleep, maybe you’ll be more rational tomorrow.
Misunderstood???
Ok, niblic…..I went back and read all the posts from the other threads and there were no problems. Maybe I misunderstood some of your statements as being mean, when you meant them as humor. It is difficult sometimes to read humor. I know on occasion I have attempted a humorous or satirical post that no one understood and it flopped like a lead balloon. As I said earlier I agree with your position in all your posts, but thought you were over the top with your seemingly “mean” responses. If they were meant to be funny, I missed it. Tigerhead and I have been posting for over 2 years and I think he is a great guy, even when we disagree, which is usually about Tiger. I would hope we could find an agreeable compromise, especially since we now have a new “lease” on our blogging life here. This can actually be fun again. If my posts were offensive, let me know and I will do better.
em66,
I have absolutely no problem with you or any of your posts, but when I do I will try to be gentle with you when I do try to correct you.
And may I say that you do not have to do the same….I am a big boy and nothing hurts my feelings. I will say that last post was very courageous on your part. Now if we can just knock some sense into this knucklehead, tigerhead.
Won't Happen
Tigerhead is a true blue tiger fan. He is one of the few to have a “fan” interaction with Tiger. Tiger spoke to his son at a tournament, which doesn’t happen often. I respect his loyalty, even if I don’t care for Tiger or his treatment of “his” fans. Tigerhead will go toe to toe with you and won’t back down, but as I said, he is a good guy and not one of the “fringe” Tiger suck-ups. Now, Macer……that’s another story…lol.
Alright......
You basically said although we don’t know 100% anybody with a brain can see he had an affair, and you base this off of a story in the NE. To me it’s pretty clear what you mean to say there, but if I’m wrong you have my apology and I certainly don’t mean to put words in your mouth. No hard feelings, I actually find you somewhat amusing, I just have no use for the insults. Yes we may have some level of agreement between us but we are not getting to it, mostly due to the insulting nature of this discussion. Look, Tiger may have had an affair, heck he could be sleeping with half of Orlando for all I know, but he sure as heck wouldn’t be the first or the last. I’m not condoning anything, just saying it’s none of my business, that would be between him and his family. I don’t need to know his dirty laundry. I like to watch him play golf, yes I’m a big fan, but that’s it. I don’t look to him for spiritual advice or for him to be a model on how to live my life. And yes I do think he’s hiding something, but I agree with Tiger when he says it’s a private matter and he’d like to keep it that way. Many people including yourself disagree with that, I get it and understand why, I just see it differently and think he has the same right to a private life as you and I. Hope the clears the air a bit.
tigerhead,
Yes, this does clear the air a little bit but if I could just rephrase your comments just slightly. We both know for a fact that the NE posted a story about Tiger’s alleged affair on Wed Nov 25th. And we both know for a fact that Tiger and his wife had some kind of domestic dispute the next day and following early morning. I actually agree with you that Tiger is doing the right thing by not talking to the police and implicating his wife in the domestic abuse. (see my latest post at the end of this thread on the latest news from TMZ). My biggest problem is with the way Tiger is handling the affair allegations….he’s trying to cover it up. Sure, I agree with you that he has the same right to privacy as you and I, but that doesn’t mean that this story will go away(again, see my latest post at the end of this thread) Tiger is getting bad advice from his legal team, just like my sticks and stones allusion earlier, I also learned a long time ago that honesty was the best policy. I just can’t bring myself to apologize to you for insulting you; calling you stupid or an idiot does you absolutely no harm whatsoever; I seriously think you are just whining about that to deflect from the real issues. But on a postive note, I find absolutely nothing in your latest post for which to call you stupid or dumb. Thanks for your apology, it takes a big man to do so and I admire you for it. I will try to be more civil to you in the future.
Cheers niblic and thanks. Yes, I think something did go down with Elin. I think Tiger’s statement actually said quite a lot. He sounds remorseful and he refers to making sure “it” doesn’t happen again. It’s pretty obvious that “it” is more than the car accident. Glad we agree he should be protecting his wife’s privacy, why subject her to further harm and pain for something he caused to begin with.
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Rookies
Sorry, we come from TGC, a piece of crap web site. We’re not used to 21st century technology. Be patient with us.
No apology warranted!
Just trying to help…
"...it is well to remember that to miss a putt is not a criminal offense and does not prevent a man from being an excellent husband, father, and citizen." - Bernard Darwin
Let the Greeter beware.
In case you haven’t noticed, waggle.com has been over run with comments from a relatively small group. Back and forth for dozens of comments, it’s like a cyber four-way…. They have an inordinate need to see what they write in print….non-deletable print! Perhaps you’ll grow weary of seeing the same things hashed and rehashed, I know I do.
turnover ,,thanks for the welcome
I was in New Zealand a few weeks ago on a golf vacation and a local pro recomended this website. I LOVE IT…I’ve been promoting it at TGC blog and so far so good it looks like. All of us are golfers and love our sport, however some are more opinionated than others. It’s All Good…jumpn/progolf
Thanks turnover….what a concept, a moderator actually helping a poster…at TGC the moderator would have just deleted all the posts!
And I don’t know who Bernard Darwin is, (hopefully not related to Charles), but the corollary is also true…“Just because a man can make a putt, doesn’t mean that man is an excellent husband, father, or citizen”.
A. I'm not a moderator.
B. Bernard Darwin was quite probably the greatest golf writer of the 20th century, and was Charles Darwin’s grandson, and wrote proudly – though infrequently – of his grandfather.
"...it is well to remember that to miss a putt is not a criminal offense and does not prevent a man from being an excellent husband, father, and citizen." - Bernard Darwin
Hey Ping!
I have to say…your post was very civil. I would have to say Elin will have a very nice present under the Christmas tree this year……maybe a diamond the size of that rock that was moved for him a few years ago….lol
Wanna welcome everyone to the site that’s here for the first time – good to see some new faces adding to the convo.
I’m not prone to deleting/reporting comments and such, and I won’t do that so long as convos remain civil and contain no slurs, curse words, etc.
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THANKS RYAN
I for one love it here and I think your journalism is very fair and well written. I’m usually the biggest critic of the journalist at (TGC) lol , just ask anyone that followed me in here. Thanks for keeping it real and keep up the good work….progolf
Yeah thanks Ryan
I came over from TGC at the behest of ProGolf. No slurs or curse words? You have no idea how limiting that will be for one of these “newbies”…..
em66
I just saw that brother,, shamefull if ya ask me,, so much for freedom of speech @ TGC. This site is updated with comments in real-time almost like a chat room….jumpn/progolf
Tigerhead/Jumpn
Tigerhead……Well if you would get on the right side of the issue….lol…..maybe you wouldn’t get attacked…lol. I agree with you somewhat, but Tiger needs to address these questions for his own sake. I know for me, his credibility would go way up if he just “answered the questions”. If there’s nothing there then he should be fine. Jumpn……I’m liking it here already. We just need Macer here to keep us all humble….lol
Jumpn,
I agree…we were discussing this in my foursome yesterday and we all agreed not to be too critical with Tiger because we really haven’t walked in his shoes. He has all these women throwing themselves at him and a 2-3 week trip alone to Asia/Australia is fraught with temptations. I never gave into such temptations but then I never really had any opportunity like Tiger does.
Tiger’s arrogance in not addressing the issue is what really makes me mad. We are a forgiving people by nature, and like em66 has said already, if Tiger would just say he didn’t have an affair, then he would believe him. I’m not sure I would go that far, and I think Tiger is waiting to see just what evidence the NE has before he admits the affair or continues to deny it. And as always, he’s getting bad advice from that most scurrilous of species…LAWYERS!
Invite them all, except sean3 and barbara2
We need to keep going back and posting the url. We should get 3irons, macer, handicap=swing, joegoodputz, stub, are a few that come to mind. I was ready to quit because of the deletes. Funny, Tigers accident brought me back for another try…….go figure.
I'm doing my best on the invites
This blog site is waaaaaaaaaay better than TGC. Its live real-time,,so you can actually watch someone post a comment right in front of you while your typing yours, almost like chat. The links on the home page are awesome too…jumpn
BANNED
I think they’ve yanked me. I can’t post anything at TGC. 3irons just posted on the Thanks for the Memories thread and I tried to let him know about waggle, but couldn’t post anything…….whatzzzz up with that? It may mean someone is actually monitoring the web site. Someone else give it a try.
BANNED
I think they’ve yanked me. I can’t post anything at TGC. 3irons just posted on the Thanks for the Memories thread and I tried to let him know about waggle, but couldn’t post anything…….whatzzzz up with that? It may mean someone is actually monitoring the web site. Someone else give it a try.
tigerhead
The only problem I see so far is that I will have nothing to complain about as the jounalism in this site is GREAT….yikes
Here’s the latest update from TMZ…
“UPDATE: Here’s how the FHP describes today’s attempt to talk to Tiger: “The troopers went to the house to see if they could speak with Mr. Woods. Mr. Woods’ attorney was present and told investigators that Mr. Woods was unavailable for an interview. Mr. Wood’s attorney provided the troopers with Mr. Woods’ driver’s license information, registration and current proof of insurance as required by Florida Law. The crash investigation is ongoing and charges are pending.”
Read more: http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0YI9SVmLA
Yes, I agree he’s acting like a man with something to hide. If however you can believe the TMZ crap, it very well could be an assault from Elin. I’d hide that too in a New York second. She’s the mother of his children and if I were put in the same situation, I’d get very tight lipped. I’m not saying it’s right, just understandable. And again, none of our business. Nobody’s going to jail, life will go on, Tiger will keep playing golf.
Tigerhead
Journalism on this site is correct. TGC is void of journalism. I’ll be glad when we get the others over here so I can DELETE TGC from my favorites………Something else to be Thankful for on this Thanksgiving weekend…….Now if only my Saint can win Monday night…..lol
tigerhead
which one is you ? j/k bro,,, Glad to see you guys joined, now maybe we can have some normal conversations, I use the term loosley until some others join. lol
Easy...............
Welcome to the new “happening” place. No deletes here and it seems to be a much more high tech web site…..good riddance Golf Channel. We just need to get as many over here from “that” other site.
Woods doesn't have to talk to the police.
According to Florida state law, it appears that TW is under no obligation to talk to the FHP regarding this incident, he only needs to provide them with his license, registration, and insurance which he has now done. Therefore I doubt very much that he will be talking to them at all. It would seem that “something” is being hidden here, but TW is going to keep this as private as possible and we’re just never going to know. I remain convinced that he is acting to protect his family and their privacy, which I have no problem with. Basically what you have here is people that don’t like him wanting to believe the worst, and people (such as myself) who are fans who want to believe the best. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle and we will most likely never know the whole story. But why do we need to know?? Nobody was killed or seriously hurt and it’s not a matter of national security. The only people hurt here are Woods and his family and they are left to deal with whatever did or didn’t happen. It’s a private matter and I believe it should remain that way.
Easy...............
I think you make 7 today. Jumpn (progolf here), niblic, golf nut6912, ping, tigerhead, and myself so far. Hope I haven’t missed anyone.
Not Yet
No, but I just posted a comment to Macer. He’s been out of town for Thanksgiving. You all might want to go there and try to get him.
National Enquirer
I will admit that I have not always been a huge Tiger fan, but I have always respected him for the way he has dealt with the media, his fame, and his fellow competitors. I can’t say that about anything I have ever seen or read in or about the National Enquirer. Furthermore I have been married for 41 years and can’t say that my wife and I have always seen eye to eye on everything. I guess that is just part of life. I do know that if this type of story came out in the paper or if she heard about it from one of her friends she may not be exactly thrilled. I am not saying he is guilty or innocent of anything, but I still respect his decision to protect his family.
mr shank,
I’ve never seen or read an issue of the NE myself, but they did put out the story of Tiger’s affair on Wed Nov 25th so I googled NE and found this excerpt from the article…
“Rachel has even been caught in outright lies in specific comment responses to The ENQUIRER.
Rachel traveled to Australia to meet with Tiger while he played earlier this month in the Australian Masters, both sources said. BUT Rachel initially told us she traveled there with a boyfriend.
In a later conversation, however, she admitted to The ENQUIRER she had lied about going to Australia with a boyfriend. She said she was in the country “for business.”
She also said she was not in Tiger’s hotel. But an Enquirer reporter eye witnessed her IN the hotel.
She then said she did not go to the floor of the hotel where Tiger was staying.
BUT an ENQUIRER reporter in Melbourne watched as Rachel checked in to the posh Crown Towers hotel, and went up to the 35th floor, which houses the hotel’s ritzy VIP Suite. Tiger was staying in the same hotel, according to local press reports."
…admittedly, the NE is trying to sell magazines so they’re not telling everything on their website. The whole story will come out; I think Tiger is waiting also to see how much they know and how much evidence they have before he decides to tell his side of the story.
NE in Australia
First, Australia is a very long way to go to forget the details of the trip. Secondly, you’re depending on the same NE that broke the story for the details of what happened. It is of course possible that Ms Rachel did have business there?!? What is Ms Rachel’s motive for hiring a lawyer? I would bet it is not to get all of the facts out just for the sake of the facts. If the NE does get sued (a fairly frequent happening from what I have been told), how much do they have to pay out through a judgement or a settlement vs how much they must be making on increasing their circulation by reporting on this?
Big Time Lawyer
Tiger hired a very high profile criminal attorney. Hmmm, I’m not sure…….can you sue a fire hydrant????
Easingwold
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I think you can email support@sbnation.com and they’ll let you change it – I can’t do it.
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by Ryan Ballengee on Nov 30, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
em66
I think I can change it,, either that or start a new one. Glad to see all those that have joined so far. BTW they usually have new articles everyday with loys of good reading…jumpn
Here’s the latest from TMZ….
Cops Pursue Warrant in Woods Case
Posted Nov 30th 2009 12:05AM by TMZ Staff
Sources tell TMZ the Florida Highway Patrol is now focusing on obtaining a search warrant — allowing them to seize medical records from the hospital that treated Tiger Woods — in an attempt to determine if the wounds Woods sustained are consistent with a car accident or domestic violence.
We’re told authorities believe they can show probable cause a crime was committed, a necessary step in obtaining a warrant.
One big piece of evidence showing probable cause … sources tell us Tiger’s wife, Elin Nordegren told FHP troopers she went looking for Tiger in a golf cart, came upon the accident and then used a golf club to break the window to gain entry. That’s a very different story from what she first told Windemere cops shortly after the accident — she never mentioned a golf cart. Nordegren told Windemere police she had walked out of her house, saw the crash, went back inside to get a golf club and returned to the vehicle.
TMZ has reviewed 21 photos from the scene — no sign of any golf cart.
And there’s more … although alcohol was not involved, Tiger was in and out of consciousness and TMZ has already reported Tiger told a friend he was taking prescription meds for pain, which could be evidence of DUI. This, too, could constitute probable cause to obtain a warrant.
We’re told the FHP is pursuing the search warrant option after getting shut down again Sunday in an attempt to interview Tiger and Elin and eyeball Tiger’s wounds.
As we first reported, according to sources, Tiger told a friend Elin had attacked him after she confronted him with reported allegations he had cheated on her. We’re told Tiger told the friend Elin then followed him out of the house and struck the moving vehicle with the golf club, causing him to get distracted and hit the hydrant.
If the FHP determines Elin attacked Tiger, we’re told she could be arrested for domestic violence.
Great Day
It’s nice to see all the posts still here and the web site working……..Tiger seems to have offended the FHP. They have been “shown” up by Tiger and now they will get revenge. He could have met with them and it probably would not have gotten to this point…..just speculation on my part.
Tiger's Non-Statement
Tiger apologized for the accident and said it wouldn’t happen again…..What? How can you say you won’t have another accident……that’s why they are call accidents…hello!…….or was he really apologizing for the affair and said “that” wouldn’t happen again? He then addressed all the rumors as being “irresponsible”…..Why didn’t he say they were “NOT TRUE”….leads me to believe they were true. And then he praises his wife for her heroic efforts and said she was the “first one there”……What the heck does that mean…..were people lined up and taking numbers to attend to Tiger?? Give me a break. She was the first one there because she was chasing his cheating butt down the freakin driveway with a sand wedge. A wonderful statement for his suck-up fans, but for most of us a meaninless statement that solves NOTHING!
crazy stuff
Personaly I smell a rat and I think the truth will be out soon enough. Was there damage to the inside of the home or blood on something that would prevent inviting the police inside. Will TW attend his Tuesday press conference or even play at the Chevron this week. The boys and I at Sawgrass have started a pool. :o)…jumpn/progolf
What about the game ?
Personally, I wouldn’t want to have to go through what Woods is experiencing. Has to be tough on him. But he has an obligation to the game , and all this hocus-pocus has given it a black eye. These sleaze rags would have no bite if he’d just open up and offer a plausible explanation. Now the FHP are pissed off and we all know things are gonna escalate. You know, the Tour has been losing sponsors at an alarming rate, and now the games main attraction is coming off like a Hollywood flake,…lawer and all. It’s embarassing to the sport……………………………………Z.
UGH!
All the funny posts on TGC on Friday are no longer funny. This has become a soap opera. Team Tiger has screwed this up from the start and now they no longer control the outcome. A statement of substance on Friday would have sent the wolves elsewhere, but the arrogance of Team Tiger miscalculated and now Tiger and Elin will pay the price. If she was beating him with a club, then I commend Tiger for leaving and not hitting her back. I, as Tigerhead has said, believe Tiger is trying to protect her from Domestic Violence charges, but that now has blown up. Fans would have forgiven Elin for busting up Tiger, believing she was due a little pay back, but now we don’t care about the Domestic Violence, but the problem is the “GREAT DECEPTION” being perpetuated. Treat your fans crappy, ignore the media, look out for number #1, but don’t you freakin lie to us! Time will only tell if he is lying to us, but his credibility has taken a BIG hit.
and then there’s this, again from TMZ….
“There’s something the Florida Highway Patrol wants even more than catching a glimpse of Tiger Woods’ wounds — the video from the surveillance cameras at the family home.
TMZ has learned the home of Tiger and wife Elin Nordegren is fully loaded with security cameras and we’re told at least one of the cameras show Tiger’s exit from the house. We know the FHP wants the video.
As we first reported, the FHP wants a search warrant for Tiger’s medical records. They also want the video — the question, even if the FHP gets a warrant for the video … what, if any, footage exists at this point?
Then again, it’s possible Tiger would willingly fork over the video. Or maybe not."
….trying to be civil here, but if the TW team hasn’t destroyed these videos by now, they should all be fired,
do you get news from any legitmate sources ? National Enquirer and TMZ ? Come on.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
All are Reporting this
Court…..check out every news source you can find and they are reporting the Tiger incident. It would seem some of the less than legitimate media has scooped the useless Obama media…..go figure
it was local Jacksonville TV news…sounds like they just reported without confirming….kind of like MOST of this story.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
Court
I think that in any developing story, the media (and bloggers) will, when not given all the facts, fill in with whatever theories may be plausible. Perception can become reality quickly when there are questions left unanswered. I wish this had been handled better, especially for the sake of Tiger and Elin.
Maybe
I know on CSI they try to create a scenario from what little evidence they have…….just kidding.
I have to say that speculating on a blog comment thread is a lot different than trying to make it seem like we have any clue what actually, truly happened. Posing questions isn’t quite speculating, but trying to present a weaved together scenario isn’t really proper reporting.
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by Ryan Ballengee on Nov 30, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
Woods video
I’m betting there will be a convenient excuse as to why they are no longer available. Something along the lines of "the dog got into system and ate the whole thing, sorry.lol.
Progolf and the 121
You know the old expression: "Same s**t different day “, well pard, this is same comments, different blog…. And what do you know know, 3irons has a new venue to repeat his anti-Tiger mantra. At one pont I counted 28 consecutive comments involving those ever popular refugees em66, Tigerhead and niblic (aka Niblick1111). I see em66 has slyly injected President Obama into the debate. Careful there 3i’s this is a civil site. So, it looks like you’ve highjacked another blog. Amazing! But that’s the reality of these blogs. And Ryan…..”In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king" Pax vobiscum…
Say What???
Ping……It was raining here yesterday…..so I was inside and bored. Sorry if all the posts caused you any consternation or maybe constipation??? Why would you expect anything to change. We are all the same, but now we’re not being deleted. Please let us know what the daily limit of posting is.
Daily Limit..an FYI
I sure hope you guys aren’t sexting pictures to each other……I’d say three maybe four times a day…I think that’s reasonable to make your point. Six or eight per article per hour…that’s a bit much. Maybe some of the other folks posting here have a suggestion. “consternation or maybe constipation”…. That might be getting a bit uncivil….like that “other” blog…. Speaking of getting deleted: Does anyone monitor these comments?
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