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From Landfill to Links: The Future of Urban Course Design?

John Paul Newport had a very interesting read over the weekend in Wall St. Journal about the next Liberty National.  No, I don't mean a course that is spellbindingly awful in its design.  But, I do mean a course that is built on top of a former dumping site.

The $123 million project was slated to have been completed at various dates in the decade since then-Mayor Rudy Guiliani kicked off the project to convert Ferry Point from a municipal dump into a Jack Nicklaus designed dogleg right.  Just about eleven years later on September 11, the funding for construction of the course was approved.  Stakes are in the ground to mark the layout of the course, and the dirt will move on October 22.

Of course, Ferry Point will be intended to be a course that could host a PGA Tour event or major championship.  After all, if that Tom Kite mish-mash of design can host The Barclays, surely a Nicklaus design can host the US Open.  (Besides, the other courses in New York City are kind of a disaster for the USGA right now.)

Unlike Liberty National, though, Ferry Point will be a public course.  Nicklaus told Newport that he hopes that amateur hacks like us can appreciate and enjoy the course. 

It might seem like this is bizarre, but the notion of developing new municipal tracks on former landfills or dumping sites is becoming a highly-visible trend.  With the lower availability of urban land and the desire to eradicate dumping grounds from city centers, golf courses are a great fit.

Now the question - as Tom Dunne poses - is what the green fee will be.  Will be closer to $100+ and outprice the average weekend player, or will it cater to a normal daily fee golfer?  John Paul suggested as Dunne's Out and Back that the course will play at the latter fee structure.

All in all, this is an interesting profile in what could be the future of the municipal course in America.  Outside of Chicago, the urban course is perhaps a dying notion - at least new construction.  In a time when suburban high-end daily fees and private clubs are going belly-up in droves, courses like Ferry Point may be the bastion of future design. 

American golf course supply clearly outpaces demand for the sport.  For many observers, a large reason behind this disconnect is because of the parallel disconnect between what golfers will pay to play and the premium features built into modern courses.  Can a project that costs $123 million to reclaim the land and build the course do a better job of connecting the average golfer with average prices?

Perhaps even another question is if this trend could help reverse some of the notion that golf is an environmentally-offensive venture.  Courses like Liberty National have been touted as great for the environment.  A dumping ground turned into golf course has to be a serious improvement.  But, environmentalists will raise a lot of protest that anything would be better than a golf course on a former dump site short of another, more toxic dump site.

Successful projects like Liberty National, but done for public good like the intention behind Ferry Point, could do quite a bit to give golf a good name as an environmentally-friendly option for reclaiming land.

The only potential irony in all of this is that municipaltities and other public courses that are being closed around the country could be converted to new landfills to take the place of urban dumps that have become an eyesore in the quest to reconstruct the beauty of the American city's skyline.

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Just because NYC is doing this now, that hardly means that reclaiming landfills and other blighted areas in the form of golf courses is new.

There are about 70 such courses in the US, and the first was Victoria Golf Course in Carson, California. It opened 57 years ago.

It is hardly new in highly urbanized environments, either. Lew Galbraith Municipal opened in Oakland in 1966, the same year that Mountain View opened in San Jose. Both are major cities, and both courses were opened on top of closed landfills.

If anything, NYC is far behind the times, and this is no future for urban renewal. It is a tried and true tactic well proven by nearly six decades of experience.

by Charles Boyer on Oct 5, 2009 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Remember, I said nothing about this being a net new concept. Rather, I’m suggesting that this is nuveau – big difference there.

Email me any comments or questions at ryan@thegolfnewsnet.com.

by Ryan Ballengee on Oct 5, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

we have one here in Atlanta – terrific little course – but on warm days after a rain, you can still tell it used to be a landfill.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Oct 5, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

ahh – New York City – the refuge of the common man. (LMAO) Will Hilary and Bill be there for the opening ?

A billion dollar little league field for the Spankees and a $123 million muni.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Oct 5, 2009 2:24 PM EDT reply actions  

To be fair, JP wasn’t certain how much of the price tag actually goes to the golf course as opposed to land clean up and the park that will be next to the course.

Email me any comments or questions at ryan@thegolfnewsnet.com.

by Ryan Ballengee on Oct 5, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

it all comes out of the pockets of the taxpayers.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Oct 5, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who else would pay for a municipal golf course?

Email me any comments or questions at ryan@thegolfnewsnet.com.

by Ryan Ballengee on Oct 5, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

$123 million for a muni ? nice way to reinforce the lies about the game being only for the rich.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Oct 5, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remember, I would guess something like $40-50 actually goes to the course.

Email me any comments or questions at ryan@thegolfnewsnet.com.

by Ryan Ballengee on Oct 5, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

the bill is $123 million – it doesn’t matter if only $40-50 mil goes to the golf course – the bill still has to be paid.

"this ball will fit in that fairway"

by courtgolf on Oct 5, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

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