Point-Counterpoint with Ron Sirak
Golfworld's Ron Sirak doesn't know this, but he is playing Point-Couterpoint with me this week regarding his column listing five "reasons" why the Euros are a lock this week at Valhalla.
Well there was a pic here of a young guy and an old guy, but the site won't let me hotlink. So, instead, I present this from 1970s SNL:

That's me on the right.
Fortunately, though, I have an outlet to make sure that someone will see it and maybe pass it along to him. (Also, maybe talk to Stina Sternberg for me. Actually, I think I'd rather handle that myself. No offense, Ron.)
Anyway, here are the five generic reasons Sirak gives why the Euros will win:
- Desire
- Format
- Chemistry
- Attitude
- Talent
First of all, these are nothing short of cliches (except for format). But, second, it seems to me that the Americans may actually stand at an advantage against the Euros in most of these categories.
How about desire? I don't know about you, but if I got my ass kicked every 2 years and knew it was going to happen...well, I would eventually not like it. The 6 veteran Americans have every motivation to not be embarrassed for a fourth consecutive time. The six rookies have every desire to prove that they belong as part of the next generation of US Ryder Cup teams.
Maybe chemistry works better for the Euros. But, everyone hates Sergio Garcia on the Euro side. Nick Faldo isn't getting too much good press for his ego. And Ian Poulter is going to be looked down on by each player. Meanwhile, there are enough journeymen on this team to try to team up together for a cause to elevate all of their statures. It may be selfish, and not for country, but whatever works.
Attitude? Isn't that a big component of chemistry? This one has finally shifted to the Americans' favor. Nothing is expected of them. What worse could really happen? They can have a leissez-faire (thanks French!) attitude to the matches and see what happens. The Euros are expected to win and big. If they don't wipe out the Americans on Friday, then they may not like the pressure so much in a road game.
Sure, the Americans don't have a recent major championship winner on their team except for Phil Mickelson and arguably Jim Furyk. But, recent PGA Tour success seems to have never been an indicator for the Euros. Why can't the same be true for the US of A?
But, yeah, the format does favor the Euros.
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bring extra ammo
if that article were a shooting target, you would smile and ask for extra ammo because there is no way you could miss. you’re exactly right on these cliche’s.
four of them can’t be quantified, and I have no idea where he got his evidence for the Euro team playing more “team” golf. their top players only play Ryder Cup every other year, where our top players play team golf every year. Pros just don’t do it anymore. Europeans probably play more match play, but not professionally much more than anybody else. The two best match play tournament players over the last 12 years have been Tiger Woods and Ernie Els at the WGC match play and Els at the World Match Play. Tiger has a losing record in team matches and a 3-1-1 record in singles.
I think he was talking about “attitude” on an individual level – how they go about their business in a match play situtaion – as well as they handle the team component. I also think that the worst thing Americans (not necessarily all the players) take into a Ryder Cup tie or discussion is this attitude of “entitlement” – we’re just SUPPOSED to win because we wear stars and stripes. The Euros are just SUPPOSED to roll over and play dead. That’s just asking for trouble. Let’s hope they are leaving that at home this year.
talent ??? Give me a break – until this year, it was the American squad that was overflowing with talent from top to bottom and the Euros were the team nobody had heard of. This American team has plenty of talent to win the Cup back – they just have to play better than they have the last 20 years. The Euros have players with better records and more experience. If recent history is any kind of teacher – that isn’t necessarily an advantage.
desire – who knows ? Some say the Euros take all the pressure off themselves by having such a laid back attitude. their “desire” is more for a good time, unlike the Americans who go in with the “if we don’t win, we’re nothing” pressure. This “wants it more” thing is definitely a media cliche. Just because you lose doesn’t mean you want something less – and just because you win doesn’t mean you want something more.
chemistry speaks for itself – those guys get along better 52 weeks out of the year, and they are willing to work together. The US team is (usually) lead by 2 guys who lock themselves away when they aren’t “at the office”. This year it’s just one – but he’s crazy. :-)
The US has had the greatest active major winner on their team since ‘97, and he hasn’t been able to get a team over the top, and Nick Faldo was on some losing teams when he was the best player on the planet.
I think what most people miss, and the media ignore or miss, when they look at the history of the Ryder Cup is the team composition change that happened in 1979. Before then, it was the great big US vs the tiny GB&I team. It was pretty easy to dominate when the GB&I had such a small pool of talent to pull from. In 1979, however, the Ryder Cup was expaned to allow players from ALL of Europe, making the talent a lot more comparable. Since 1979, the US is 6-7-1, with the Euro team on their recent streak.
BUT – sports are cyclical – and streaks don’t last forever. You just never know when things could turn around.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
Ron, you ignorant....
lol – the picture finally came up – good choice ! that was back when SNL was funny.
"this ball will fit in that fairway"

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