Mainstream Golf Media Assaults Fall Series
I swear that the major golf publications read this blog for content ideas sometimes. I know it's shear coincidence (that's not sarcastic), but the day after we start a great discussion here about what to do with the Fall Series, John Hawkins of Golfworld gets involved with his take.
He hits on some of the same points that I made in the original post and the comments section and cites similar examples - Cameron Beckman and Harrison Frazar (a good one that I didn't think of using) - with more stats.
Hawk also reaches a similar conclusion that I did, which is that the Fall Series is fundamentally flawed. But Hawk comes at it from a different angle, which I will leave to you to judge.
One of his main points is that the Fall Series really doesn't determine a player's livelihood or status for next year and talks about Frazar in particular.
A few dimes shy of $8 million in total earnings, Frazar won't be waiting tables or shagging balls anytime soon. Despite falling deeper down the money list in 2008, he's likely to get into at least 20 tournaments next year, and there will be plenty of others who do the same. So the next time you hear some Golf Channel analyst talk about do-or-die time or refer to the top-125 bubble, feel free to laugh.
He kind of reaches my point about having lower purses for weaker fields, but reaches back in time to demo his angle, by basically saying that Tiger made less in 2003 to win the Buick Invitational (?) than the winner of the Ginn sur Mer this week will get.
Hawk poses the same question that court and I did, in slightly different terms:
[Y]ou wonder how long Corporate America will shell out $6 to $8 million for title-sponsorship rights to an event with Mike Weir as the headliner.
And then he talks about the inconsistencies between the FedEx Cup being based in points and the money list being based on, well, money. That subject has been explored by Steve Elling and on here, too.
Anyway, the ultimate conclusion of the piece is almost the exact same one drawn on here (at least by me, and I know several of you disagree):
You want to give the Fall Series a cut-throat disposition? Turn it into a Q-School for veterans, all the guys who have either lost their cards or simply want to play their way into the big leagues. That would leave Q-School as we know it now a proving ground for rookies and other aspiring tour pros. The goal here isn't to prevent good golfers from making good money, but to instill a sense of value in being a fully exempt player.
Just remember, you heard it here first. :) Whether or not having backup in the mainstream golf media is good or not will be determined by the responses.
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uh-huh
and Joe Biden didn’t get caught for plagerism….TWICE !!! :-)
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
by courtgolf on Oct 29, 2008 1:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry...
…but I’m really getting tired of these guys who come up with these bizarre ideas that golf needs to be some sort of “cut throat” venture. It is NOT that kind of a game. You don’t see these guys throwing temper tantrums and bad mouthing other players if they miss a cut, or even if they have to go back to Q-school.
The Fall season…and the entire season in all practicality…is already a Q-school for the guys below 125 who don’t have some sort of Tour exempt status from previous seasons. Knock it off already with these stupid “let’s make up some sort of scoring system for these tournaments – and while we’re at it – we’ll just shoot the guys who don’t make the cut” ideas.
Tell you what – let’s cut the next media wonk who comes up with another stupid criticism like this. Face it – there is no way to win with the media. It doesn’t matter which direction the Tour takes – there will be weanies with their ideas that The Tour should just immediately adopt. Knock it off already. Suggestions are fine – but trying to turn the Tour into a meat grinder is just wrong.
By the way – comparing a 2008 tournament paycheck to a 2003 paycheck is just plain silly. Why not just point out that just about ANY first or second place finish on the PGA Tour tops the entire career earnings of Hogan or Snead or Hagen or Byron.
I like John Hawkins as a general rule – but this one went too far.
(and WHOSE idea was lowering the fall series purses ???) ;-)
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
by courtgolf on Oct 29, 2008 1:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I tend to agree
I feel that my idea wasn’t geared at cutting guys who struggle, but rather giving them an opportunity to compete for FedEx Cup money and not be seen as second or third run guys who are just along for the ride. That’s unfair to their talents.
I don’t think you have to change what the Fall Series does, but I do think it’s a good idea to get the Nationwide Tour grads involved if you keep it this way. Like I said, in a perfect world, tournament fields are more egalitarian from the start. Not completely egalitarian, though. That would be Marxist :)
I thought the 2003 comparison was awkward, too.
by Ryan Ballengee on Oct 29, 2008 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fed Ex ???
none of this cash goes to Fed Ex points. That’s January through the Tour Championship.
Not sure I understand your point on making tournament fields more “egalitarian”. If the Nationwide Tour guys have no standing on the PGA Tour, and the PGA Tour guys want to play – then that’s where the spots go. These aren’t exhibitions – they are full field tournaments.
Personally, I wouldn’t have a problem sending out invitations to the top 10 on the Nationwide Tour IF the PGA Tour guys don’t want all the spots – and that’s the pecking order anyway – and I DEFINITELY would rather see a guy from the NT get a spot over Bobby Clampett. (then again – if Clampett is playing, he can’t pick up a microphone !) :-)
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
by courtgolf on Oct 29, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Egalitarian
As in having fewer limited field events on the FedEx Cup part of the schedule so that the Fall Series looks better and isn’t the only place guys can turn to salvage their seasons. So, that would give them better odds at making the top 125 without the Fall Series perception of having to beat mediocre fields (by comparison) to keep their cards.
by Ryan Ballengee on Oct 29, 2008 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And here I thought...
…you were talking about getting Michelle Wie in to the field(s). Ok, Ok, I’m kidding. ;-D
by Double Eagle on Oct 29, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BWAAAHAHAHAHAAAAA
that’s good !
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
by courtgolf on Oct 29, 2008 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
there are only a couple...
…of short field weeks that don’t offer a tournament opposite. The three WGC tournaments and the British all have tournaments alongside them. You have a point about the points and money being different – but Fed Ex wants to give the top guys a leg up in the standings.
It’s a ladder – not a table top. :-)
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
by courtgolf on Oct 29, 2008 2:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I meant the events like
Memorial, which has a smaller field (and maybe getting smaller). They’re not in that ultra-limited field like the Tour Championship, or the semi-ultra like the WGCs, but just enough to mess with guys’ schedules.
by Ryan Ballengee on Oct 29, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
give the old guys a break !
geez – Jack and Arnie aren’t young bucks anymore ! It’s a lot of work hosting one of these things !! :-)
"this ball will fit in that fairway"
by courtgolf on Oct 29, 2008 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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